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sniffles 06-17-2015 05:24 PM

So, Joe's last partner dated his daughter and his new one is going to date his 'son'?:confused:

Elektra 06-17-2015 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by scarletspuffyfan (Post 82038934)
So, if she knows about the metahumans she's probably going to know about Barry too, right? So this is yet another person being added to the team, essentially.

Well, the entire CCPD know about the metahumans, so that's no longer a secret :). None of them know that Barry = The Flash except for Joe, however, so I see no reason Patty should know unless they go the comic book route where he tells her when their relationship starts getting serious (as in, moving in together).

Patty ended up getting jealous over his friendship with Iris (and by extension, Wally) in the comic book, though, so I expect that to happen in the show as well.

And then there was the whole "homicidal future alt-Barry" thing, where Patty never noticed the personality shift until it was too late. In the end, she dumps "NON-homicidal present day Barry" because of what the messed up future version did... which could possibly happen in the show with time travel and alternate universes/timelines being introduced.

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Originally Posted by sniffles (Post 82040034)
So, Joe's last partner dated his daughter and his new one is going to date his 'son'?:confused:

You know Joe is going to be asking Barry "What about Iris?" and Barry is going to be all "I'll never be Iris's hero / Eddie's death is all my fault / How could Iris ever love me now / I need to move on". etc.

SydneyO 06-17-2015 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Jade4813 (Post 82039761)
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Thanks!

I wonder if Patty/Wendy will know Barry is The Flash

hannahfan 06-17-2015 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by BeautifulContradiction (Post 82006722)
Candice said that Iris will be mourning Eddie at the Superman Convenction which is a given but I don't want it to take up so much time because honestly no-one was here for Eddie!


And everyone knows it so the writers really shouldn't waste their time.

Wendy is Patty so I expect that she will learn about Barry being the Flash eventually unless this goes the way of Linda/Barry.

scorpio_chick 06-17-2015 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by sniffles (Post 82040034)
So, Joe's last partner dated his daughter and his new one is going to date his 'son'?:confused:

Very creative, yes? lol

The second video isn't working for me but judging from the first, seems like exactly what I expected.

scarletspuffyfan 06-17-2015 07:55 PM

I don't know how these people can't see every mistake they're making right off the bat.

Making Patty a cop and Joe's partner involves her directly in the action. Making her know about Barry (which I'm sure she will) allows them to be serious. While she's involved in the action/cases, and the whole team effort, Iris is going to be what, off grieving Eddie and being depressed?

How is this not exactly a storyline that will marginalize Iris when SHE should be the one given a more active role on the team? I mean seriously, do they want her to be with Barry or not? Because the story plots they've immediately changed for Patty's background, plus her upcoming relationship with Barry give her every reason to organically be more involved on the show than Iris was in the first season.

It's just so aggravating.

scorpio_chick 06-17-2015 08:39 PM

Patty being in on the action doesn't mean Iris can't be. Iris is a journalist. Patty is essentially Eddie 2.0. If the writers want Iris involved, she will be. As has always been the case, it comes down to whether or not they are invested enough to write more for her.

scarletspuffyfan 06-17-2015 09:10 PM

how are you guys watching those videos? it says it needs a password to view

ParsD 06-18-2015 06:22 AM

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Originally Posted by scarletspuffyfan (Post 82042169)
I don't know how these people can't see every mistake they're making right off the bat.

They're not "mistakes" but deliberate and telling choices.

http://37.media.tumblr.com/97ec90ffe...7o1_r3_250.gif

london grammar 06-18-2015 01:17 PM

Exactly. They don't want Iris to be lead female. They want Wendy/Patty to be popular.

Stelena&Bamon 06-18-2015 01:57 PM

I think that's a bit of a leap.

I'm interested to see it play out because in the 52 Patty is interesting and so is her dynamic with Barry/Iris.

Patty's introduction to me, is beyond proof the direction they are taking the show.

The same people who flocked to Linda will flock to Patty, it's the anyone but Iris game. But I don't care when the narrative is so clear.

scarletspuffyfan 06-18-2015 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Stelena&Bamon (Post 82053386)
I think that's a bit of a leap.

I'm interested to see it play out because in the 52 Patty is interesting and so is her dynamic with Barry/Iris.

Patty's introduction to me, is beyond proof the direction they are taking the show.

The same people who flocked to Linda will flock to Patty, it's the anyone but Iris game. But I don't care when the narrative is so clear.

what direction is that?

Boringblog 06-18-2015 02:16 PM

I'm gonna laugh if Patty turns out to be evil. :lol:

Stelena&Bamon 06-18-2015 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by scarletspuffyfan (Post 82053626)
what direction is that?

It's focused on comic canon. S1 was basically simplified Flash Rebirth from the pilot I knew Future Barry saved his kid self, Wells was Reverse, Eddie was his descendant because he's following the comics.

Patty/Wendy is another example of that fulfilment, Patty and Barry do have a relationship in the comics and it does end.

Barry and Iris are the future, they aren't the now and that's where the worry lies with some people, you can only deal with what you have in front of you, but the big picture is Barry and Iris are each other's futures, they are just on a journey to each other. They will be together most likely end of S2/S3 and rightfully so.

There is so much to flesh out before they get together, especially Iris who is a rich character. Even if the crazies flock to Patty it doesn't matter. It really doesn't. It will be nothing but baiting like with Caitlin and Barry. But at the end of the day, who did Caitlin kiss? Hannibal Bates. Was Barry involved in anyway? No. Too busy whispering "Iris" when Grodd was mind controlling him because she is his anchor. And where is Caitlin now? Married. And who did Barry love before he knew what the word love meant? Iris West.

I'm actually impressed because at least Patty is canon. The only downside is female characters being used solely to bluster Barry and compete against one another.

Random point: That shot of Barry in prison, was another hint at the 52.

scarletspuffyfan 06-18-2015 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Stelena&Bamon (Post 82053885)
It's focused on comic canon. S1 was basically simplified Flash Rebirth from the pilot I knew Future Barry saved his kid self, Wells was Reverse, Eddie was his descendant because he's following the comics.

Patty/Wendy is another example of that fulfilment, Patty and Barry do have a relationship in the comics and it does end.

Barry and Iris are the future, they aren't the now and that's where the worry lies with some people, you can only deal with what you have in front of you, but the big picture is Barry and Iris are each other's futures, they are just on a journey to each other. They will be together most likely end of S2/S3 and rightfully so.

There is so much to flesh out before they get together, especially Iris who is a rich character. Even if the crazies flock to Patty it doesn't matter. It really doesn't. It will be nothing but baiting like with Caitlin and Barry. But at the end of the day, who did Caitlin kiss? Hannibal Bates. Was Barry involved in anyway? No. Too busy whispering "Iris" when Grodd was mind controlling him because she is his anchor. And where is Caitlin now? Married. And who did Barry love before he knew what the word love meant? Iris West.

I'm actually impressed because at least Patty is canon. The only downside is female characters being used solely to bluster Barry and compete against one another.

Random point: That shot of Barry in prison, was another hint at the 52.

I thought Barry in prison was a storyline from the 80's.


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