[Starlingcity]

Originally Posted by semmanclana (View Post) Um they called her Dinah in the pilot. That's her name. Regardless of calling her Laurel, she is based off of the BC in the comics. That's like saying oh she's crazy for GA in the comics and there oliver isn't called GA just arrow. They don't have to go the cheesy overdone route with Cupid. There are plenty of ways to incorporate her and still be a nemises of Laurel without her simply hating her cause of Oliver.

Um Tommy called her by her full name in the pilot and it was called out in court. I am well aware. But she's not CALLED Dinah. Like I said in my post. It's like calling Oliver Jonas Queen. Jonas Queen in the show. That's the Laurel fan in me. That's just how I see it.

She was a nemesis of the actual Black Canary the hero, and she hated her because Oliver loved her. So if you want it to be like in the comics. Then that's the basis.
Laurel isn't the BC yet.
Oliver doesn't love Laurel.

So if you're argument is it should be like in the comics not only does it not work for this insistence. It doesn't work universally as the show is nothing like the comics.

That's why I asked if you read the comics which I'm guessing you don't. Correct me it I'm wrong. It's just you refer to them but what you say kinda contradicts them.

And Cupid was cheesy. She was definition of cheese.

You also once said Laurel saves/protects Sara a lot in the Arrow comics... where does that happen?

[LadyChaos]

Originally Posted by Starlingcity (View Post) Um Tommy called her by her full name in the pilot and it was called out in court. I am well aware. But she's not CALLED Dinah. Like I said in my post. It's like calling Oliver Jonas Queen. Jonas Queen in the show. That's the Laurel fan in me. That's just how I see it. She was a nemesis of the actual Black Canary the hero, and she hated her because Oliver loved her. So if you want it to be like in the comics. Then that's the basis. Laurel isn't the BC yet. Oliver doesn't love Laurel. So if you're argument is it should be like in the comics not only does it not work for this insistence. It doesn't work universally as the show is nothing like the comics. That's why I asked if you read the comics which I'm guessing you don't. Correct me it I'm wrong. It's just you refer to them but what you say kinda contradicts them. And Cupid was cheesy. She was definition of cheese. You also once said Laurel saves/protects Sara a lot in the Arrow comics... where does that happen?

If CUPID does go after any women on the show, I firmly believe it will be Felicity......


Besides the fact that Oliver loves, she is the ARROW's right had woman and the ARROW's crazy stalker could consider her competition or an obstacle in the way.

[jessystorm]

Originally Posted by LadyChaos (View Post) If CUPID does go after any women on the show, I firmly believe it will be Felicity...... Besides the fact that Oliver loves, she is the ARROW's right had woman and the ARROW's crazy stalker could consider her competition or an obstacle in the way.

If something like that happen, it could lead to finally give Felicity a code name

[iluvtorun]

Originally Posted by Iluv2fly (View Post) So apparently Felicity's Ex was around for a week ... [IMG]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BwRSzSTIEAAGfDi.jpg[/IMG Camerman twitter from last night: [IMG]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BwRPh6jCQAAnIl8.jpg[/IMG Perhaps her Ex? [IMG]http://ust.chatango.com/um/i/l/iluv2fly/img/t_470.jpg[/IMG

Oh hmmmmm. Thanks for the latest.
I can't wait for ANY of it at this point.

Oh jessystorm, good point about a code name. I really think, if we are getting a nice long f arc, the midsession finale may be oracle.

I can not wait for the angst!!!!

[DarkStar]

Originally Posted by Starlingcity (View Post) Um Tommy called her by her full name in the pilot and it was called out in court. I am well aware. But she's not CALLED Dinah. Like I said in my post. It's like calling Oliver Jonas Queen. Jonas Queen in the show. That's the Laurel fan in me. That's just how I see it. She was a nemesis of the actual Black Canary the hero, and she hated her because Oliver loved her. So if you want it to be like in the comics. Then that's the basis. Laurel isn't the BC yet. Oliver doesn't love Laurel. So if you're argument is it should be like in the comics not only does it not work for this insistence. It doesn't work universally as the show is nothing like the comics. That's why I asked if you read the comics which I'm guessing you don't. Correct me it I'm wrong. It's just you refer to them but what you say kinda contradicts them. And Cupid was cheesy. She was definition of cheese. You also once said Laurel saves/protects Sara a lot in the Arrow comics... where does that happen?

Yeah, EBR has actually filmed for 5 days straight. I remember in 216, SA mentioned that he normally films 7 days but for that one he only did 3 days. That was a very Dig heavy episode. If EBR films 5-7 days like DR did for 216, I expect we'll get a lot of Felicity in 305.

With the exception of the flashbacks everything should take place in Starling so it should flow better and allow for other stories/characters to weave into the episode without feeling disjointed.

[semmanclana]

Originally Posted by Starlingcity (View Post) Um Tommy called her by her full name in the pilot and it was called out in court. I am well aware. But she's not CALLED Dinah. Like I said in my post. It's like calling Oliver Jonas Queen. Jonas Queen in the show. That's the Laurel fan in me. That's just how I see it. She was a nemesis of the actual Black Canary the hero, and she hated her because Oliver loved her. So if you want it to be like in the comics. Then that's the basis. Laurel isn't the BC yet. Oliver doesn't love Laurel. So if you're argument is it should be like in the comics not only does it not work for this insistence. It doesn't work universally as the show is nothing like the comics. That's why I asked if you read the comics which I'm guessing you don't. Correct me it I'm wrong. It's just you refer to them but what you say kinda contradicts them. And Cupid was cheesy. She was definition of cheese. You also once said Laurel saves/protects Sara a lot in the Arrow comics... where does that happen?

Oh ok that's how YOU see it. Case closed on that topic.

She's a nemesis of Black canary who is Laurel in the comics. They aren't two different people. And I didn't say it should be exactly like the comics I stated that she should be laurel and Olivers nemises like the comics. There are many ways this can happen that doesn't revolve around some stupid cliche going after the woman oliver loves.....this season.

You can continue to guess that about me if you want.

Read the arrow comics and you'll see Besides that's off topic which the mods have said we should stay on.

[Cristofle]

In the press release announcing her character, Cupid will be "a lethal villainess with a dangerously obsessive crush on the Arrow" on the show. (X) If she's obsessed with him, everything she does will be surrounding him. If Stephen is correct that the only woman Oliver is interested in in S3 is Felicity, then it's unlikely she'll come out unscathed because Cupid will see her as a rival for Arrow's affections. However, she could go after any number of people, including Thea if Thea sets herself against the Arrow alongside Malcolm.

Frankly, this sounds like a train wreck waiting to happen, lol, female stalker crushes are rarely written well in any genre. But I like the actress, so we'll see.

[Roswell Dream Girl]

Back to the comics? There has to be something better to talk about than that.

[iluvtorun]

Originally Posted by Cristofle (View Post) In the press release announcing her character, Cupid will be "a lethal villainess with a dangerously obsessive crush on the Arrow" on the show. (X) If she's obsessed with him, everything she does will be surrounding him. If Stephen is correct that the only woman Oliver is interested in in S3 is Felicity, then it's unlikely she'll come out unscathed because Cupid will see her as a rival for Arrow's affections. However, she could go after any number of people, including Thea if Thea sets herself against the Arrow alongside Malcolm. Frankly, this sounds like a train wreck waiting to happen, lol, female stalker crushes are rarely written well in any genre. But I like the actress, so we'll see.

Felicity can only be a target if the villain gets close enough to the Arrow to SEE thAt she is a love interest. I am not sure how she could come to know that unless they are I the field and she sees them. The Thea line could be sooo good.

[vaberella]

Originally Posted by Cristofle (View Post) Frankly, this sounds like a train wreck waiting to happen, lol, female stalker crushes are rarely written well in any genre. But I like the actress, so we'll see.

Really? Because Misery, Fatal Attraction, a little bit of The Hand that Rocks the Cradle...would totally argue your statement. All of those are Classic female stalker films that still scare the bejesus out of men and women today. And that's to name a few. They are far from "rarely" done right.

[Cristofle]

I'm not saying it isn't successful in general- it just isn't a trope I enjoy or often find to be well-written myself, namely because it easily devolves into the misogynistic (also, for how often they're shown in popular culture, violent stalkers are almost never female, and even without taking violence into account only 10-13% of stalkers are female period- it irritates me on a similar level to the false rape accusation trope).

[vaberella]

Originally Posted by Cristofle (View Post) I'm not saying it isn't successful in general- it just isn't a trope I enjoy or often find to be well-written myself, namely because it easily devolves into the misogynistic (also, for how often they're shown in popular culture, violent stalkers are almost never female, and even without taking violence into account only 10-13% of stalkers are female period- it irritates me on a similar level to the false rape accusation trope).

If it did not include the BC storyline, it would be seen as ridiculously twisted obsession. Also don't sit there and throw out statitics. Men rarely report rape, stalking, or abuse...which happens to them by women or men because suggest what you do...in a very dismissive manner. So to say "almost never" is, in my book, a stupid comment.

[find something real]

cristofle isn't 'throwing out' statistics, that's an actual statistic. And I agree - I have no interest in this SL and I really hope Felicity isn't involved. As far as we know Oliver is the only person she's targeting, he's the one she's obsessed with. No need to get Felicity or Laurel involved.

[vaberella]

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