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There You'll Be 09-09-2014 12:30 PM

Ty Davis Jr./Coby Bell Appreciation Thread # 11 ~ We Get to Carry Each Other
 

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There You'll Be 06-09-2015 11:04 AM

Ty Davis Jr./Coby Bell Appreciation Thread # 11 ~ We Get to Carry Each Other
 
It was the finale of Revenge-the son appeared on there. Near the very end.

But I do think you're right and it's Scandal, for some reason.

It's a black woman accused of something, and the son says "She's innocent. She didn't do anything." or something along those lines.

He showed Nolan her picture in the paper, along with an article, and Nolan said Emily was looking out for him.

They were in Nolan's bar.

sunnykerr 06-09-2015 05:56 PM

Oh, I feel so stupid now.

I saw that boy on the finale.

I don't think he was meant to connect Nolan with Scandal or any other show.

There was an interview after the end of the show, where the Revenge PTBs explained how a different show (which was never picked up) where Nolan might have appeared:

Quote:

So was Nolan’s happy ending just to be able to help other people who need revenge?

Yes, but also that he’s absolutely able to stand on his own. When we saw him say to Emily that he’s trained for four years under the best sensei and that he’s going to go take care of this Margaux situation, it’s a bold move for him because he’s going without her. And he learns, “Oh, I can do this. I’ve become my own person in the nature of this show.” One of the reasons we did the lovely arc with Tony dating him is that Nolan was with a real person, and he’s become a real person—still with his eccentricities and his brilliance, but it’s now grounded in the world where he doesn’t feel like an outsider. He could stand on his own two feet, and when that young man comes to him, and without Emily there, he says, “I can help you,” and knows that he can do it.

Was the plan for him to be in ABC’s Kingmakers, which failed to get a series order at ABC?

I don’t know that there was a plan for him to be the through-line, but definitely it had been discussed that had Kingmakers gone—and I’m very sad for Sallie Patrick that it didn’t—but there was definitely talk of him possibly showing up in the show because he is definitely still part of our universe. There definitely would’ve been an intention to have a character show up on Kingmakers.
I think they're making it clear that the young black man was a different character than whatever character that actor may have played on another show.

There You'll Be 06-11-2015 02:40 PM

Ah, thanks for explaining and posting that.

It was all kind of confusing.

Nolan needs his own show.

Thanks for the new thread! :yay:

sunnykerr 06-11-2015 06:56 PM

It would have been awesome to have seen Nolan go on to appear on his own show or another show.

But I don't think it's gonna happen.

At least, it doesn't seem like will.

Who knows, they may come up with something else. :)

There You'll Be 06-12-2015 09:07 AM

It may take some time.

More patience from us. :lol:

He's just so sweet, and cute, and smart.

sunnykerr 06-13-2015 09:00 AM

For me, it's also that we don't often get surprises, you know?

You tend to know who's out there in the world of acting.

And, when you meet someone new, it often takes a while for them to get there?

He was awesome from the start.

And he stayed awesome.

So I don't want him to disappear now.

There You'll Be 06-13-2015 02:22 PM

Yeah, the thought of him disappearing really sucks.

At least I have the final episode recorded, and the Genie is surge protected now.

Doesn't mean I'll always have it, but I'll definitely buy one or two of the season's episodes.

Probably 3 & 4, but I'm not sure.

sunnykerr 06-14-2015 05:36 PM

If you want my opinion, buy the first and last season.

The first season was really good.

The last one wasn't great, but I could see why you'd want to have it, sentimally speaking.

The first one is really where it was at.

There You'll Be 06-15-2015 08:11 AM

Okay, thank you.

Cause I hadn't seen 2, and I really didn't see all of 3.

Thanks for the heads up.

And yeah, the last season for being sentimental, and having the end.

sunnykerr 06-15-2015 05:30 PM

Season 2 was awful.

Awful and pointless, so I really wouldn't bother.

If memory serves, the whole season was all about this shadowy organization pulling the strings on the Graysons and how they'd really been the ones to orchestrate the plane crash and terrorist activities the Graysons had pinned on David Clarke.

And, in the end, Conrad told Victoria that there had been no organization anyway. It had always just been him.

Of course, this was after Victoria had already killed one of "them" to "protect Daniel." Thus once again proving that Victoria has always been totally willing to kill people to get what she wants.

:rolleyes:

Seriously, save yourself. I'm sure it had good moments, but it's not worth your time or money.

There You'll Be 06-17-2015 08:04 AM

Thanks.

That's good to have a heads up on.

I seem to remember trying to watch season 2, and not having a clue what was what.

sunnykerr 06-17-2015 06:46 PM

Season 2 was so convoluted, even people who never missed an episode had trouble keeping track of the tangled web they tried to weave.

It got to be so ridiculous that even the show's PTBs back off.

Because having Conrad come out, at the end of it all, to say that it had always been him pulling the strings and that there never was a larger organization?

Smelled like such a rat.

It was obvious that the PTBs realized they had painted themselves into a corner and didn't know what the heck they were doing.

So they Deus ex Machina'd the crap out of the plot and made everything Conrad's doing.

Which, of course, led to some people going, "Ah, ah! You see, Victoria is totally a blameless pawn in this whole thing."

Meanwhile, she's actively killing people. :rolleyes:

There You'll Be 06-18-2015 01:22 PM

Thanks for explaining all of that to me.

I was definitely clueless about season 2, and really remembered none of what I watched.

I like having the insight.

And how sickening that Victoria comes out innocent looking and blameless in that.

She's been a killer from way back.

And I was glad they killed her, though that was too good for her.

sunnykerr 06-18-2015 06:35 PM

Honestly, I'm not even sure I remember Season 2 correctly myself, it was such a hot mess.

So all that explanation could be just my version of what happened.

I mean, Victoria definitely killed at least one woman. I remember that much.

The rest... It gets hazy when I try to make sense of it.

I'm glad if it could give you some idea of what happened.

But the main thing is, there is no good in watching season 2.

The actors were certainly good, but nothing made sense.

There You'll Be 06-19-2015 05:06 AM

There's nothing I love less than a show that doesn't make sense.

I like characters to make sense.

I like stories to make sense.

So I definitely appreciate the head's up. :hug:

sunnykerr 06-20-2015 09:00 AM

I can't even remember what happened to Daniel in season 2.

He didn't turn "evil" till season 3, as I recall, so I don't know what was up with him in season 2.

Not that it matters.

Like I said, none of season 2 made sense and, in the end, the show itself treated it like it never happened.

Let's face it, the plots of Revenge were always verging on the "hard to believe," so the show needed a modicum of internal logic to make sense.

Season 2 didn't have that.

There You'll Be 06-20-2015 02:30 PM

Yeah, that's true. It took internal logic.

The whole show.

Season 2 will definitely not be on my "to get" list.

sunnykerr 06-21-2015 12:12 PM

:lol: All of that to say that, yeah, basically, don't get season 2. :lmao:

Revenge had its ups and downs, and that's really like most shows, so it just is what it is.

But, also like most shows, it had to be logical unto itself.

I mean, Buffy had vampires, you know?

If you want to talk about stuff you would never see in real life, vampires are a pretty good example.

But, so long as the show makes sense, you accept certain things like that and it's all good.

I think the big problem with Revenge is that this didn't happen.

There You'll Be 06-22-2015 11:46 AM

:lol: You're so right-vampires and monsters made sense. Buffy made sense.

And it had lessons.

Sounds like season 2 of Revenge was just a waste of talent and a full season.

sunnykerr 06-22-2015 03:56 PM

You know it's bad when the PTBs backtrack.

I mean, let's not pretend that Buffy was without problem.

Season 4 was very problematic from one end to the other.

But the show's PTBs stood by it.

They managed to find ways for that season to have been worth it in some respects.

They did something with it.

On Revenge? Not so much.

It's like season 2 never happened.

There You'll Be 06-23-2015 12:41 PM

Season 4 of Buffy sucked for the most part.

But you're right, they worked with it, rather than deny its existence.

it's a shame that a show with the amazing cast of Revenge wasted a whole season, and then ignored it, as if it never existed.

sunnykerr 06-23-2015 06:30 PM

I've been indulging myself by watching Daniel/Emily videos on YouTube.

If Season 2 was a shame and a waste of good talent, killing Daniel off was just stupid.

I don't even understand how they justified having Jack and Emily end up together.

The real substantial couple of that show was always going to be Daniel and Emily.

There You'll Be 06-25-2015 04:09 AM

Yeah, after Daniel was gone, I chose Jack as the person I wanted her to end up with.

They were definitely better as friends having grown up together.

Even Daniel's final episodes, it was obvious he and Emily belonged together. And it made me sick that they set us up just to kill him.

The only good that came from dying is that he did so saving Emily.

The waste was that they did it to give Margot and Victoria a chance to bond and more of a reason for wanting revenge towards Emily.

The only thing about the end was that Jack and Emily were basically all they had left to couple, and make a happy ending since the series was ending.

sunnykerr 06-25-2015 06:49 PM

Short of Daniel, Aidan was really the only person for Emily.

And, of course, Victoria killed him first. Which only left Daniel.

:shrug: I understand why they ended it that way. I suppose they had to fabricate a good ending for Emily in some way.

But it wasn't as good as it would have been if it had been Daniel by her side in the end.

Can you imagine that narrative?

Emily sets out to get revenge for her father and, when she succeeds, her enemies' own son is on her side, knowing everything about everything, including her own gnarly bits.

It would have been glorious.

Anyway, it always felt like they only bothered to make Daniel awesome again towards the end just so we'd be sad he was killed.

It worked, but it didn't remove the feeling that we were being manipulated.


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