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Old 05-23-2017, 12:18 PM
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I'm wondering what the o2 will be like for the next couple of days following this. Seems the same general setup where anyone can get in the building to restaurants etc. without being searched. Security has been heightened, but who even knows what that means.
They'll do whatever it takes for everyone involved to feel safe, otherwise events won't go ahead. It just wouldn't be worth the risk.
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And regardless of what happens next, this is the part that I hope people focus on.

There is a special place in hell for people who think it's okay to blow up bombs in crowded areas, and an ever specialler place for people who do that knowing that the crowds will be mostly kids.

But, on the whole, people are good. Which is why they're never gonna win. There are more of us than there are of them. Call me naive, if you want. Maybe you'd be right. But look at what ordinary citizens of Manchester did when they heard the bomb(s) here.

It reminds me of the evacuation of Dunkirk, back during World War II. When Allied troops were surrounded at Dunkirk and, sure, the UK military came to the rescue, but so did hundreds upon hundreds of "ordinary" British civilians.

They didn't win then and they're not gonna win now. Not when their own actions speaks of their cowardice.
Thank you for saying that. Hope is sorely needed right now!
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I really just believe it.

These attacks have an unacceptably high toll, which makes it seem like there's more danger than there is goodness. I understand that feeling. Heck, I share that feeling. My commute home tonight was lenghtened because "emergency services" stopped service on one of the metro lines. And the first thing that crossed my mind was "oh no."

It's normal to be afraid when something this randomly hateful happens.

But look how cabs ferried people to safety for free. How hotels offered room for unaccompanied minors, and probably others, who found themselves stranded. How people opened their doors to let strangers in.

One guy committed an act of pure, cowardly, selfish evil. But what he showed in doing that is that Manchester is full of really amazing people.
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I forgot there was a new thread.

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Old 05-24-2017, 05:02 PM
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That's always easy to say, after the fact, isn't it?

Did you hear the one where the UK police forces (I'm not sure if it's "just" the Manchester police or, like, security services) are annoyed that U.S. journalists announced the identity of the dirtbag before they could round up his associates?
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Yes the UK authorities are very annoyed at the US leaks, it seems.
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I'm at a complete loss over what happened. It's horrific. there are no words.
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All they've managed to accomplish is to make us more certain about how much stronger we are together.
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Did you hear the one where the UK police forces (I'm not sure if it's "just" the Manchester police or, like, security services) are annoyed that U.S. journalists announced the identity of the dirtbag before they could round up his associates?
And the crime scene photos. It compromises the investigation.
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All they've managed to accomplish is to make us more certain about how much stronger we are together.
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That's always easy to say, after the fact, isn't it?

Did you hear the one where the UK police forces (I'm not sure if it's "just" the Manchester police or, like, security services) are annoyed that U.S. journalists announced the identity of the dirtbag before they could round up his associates?
they should be pissed. Our "journalists" care more about being first than they do about safety or being correct.
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So why is the U.S. leaking them do you guess?
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Who knows why anyone would compromise an investigation like that. Hopefully, it's someone (probably more like someones) too dumb to realize the implications of their actions.

Meanwhile, though, today I was, once again, blown away by the spirit of Manchester, when this happened at the end of what was clearly a colossal minute of silence.

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Yeah. I saw on my local news that happened on the MAX, which is scary enough since there's no security on the Portland Metro light rail system. Disturbing story.
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