Buffy and Angel - Wes & Fred thread #74: Because Death cannot stop true love!

lunas_borednow · 11-21-2008, 12:18 AM

The Bunker - Old host of all things Fred/Wes for this thread

The Shippers:
Berengaria
4brathan&brucas
lunas_borednow
Jsebold87
AngelicMouseGirl
Mad-About-OTH
courtneybangelcakes
Freaky Wednesday
cuemypulse
fresley4ever
NBalways
autumn song
MelBelle2

Honorary Shippers
Cordelia Chase
the Nahdrahs
Fake Roger Wyndham-Pryce
Spike
Harmony\
Charles Gunn
Trish Burkle
Roger Burkle
Amy Acker
Alexis Denisof
Joss Whedon

The Reasons:
Because he couldn't take his eyes off her.
Because he never called her crazy.
Because she gave him the higher grade on sincerity.
Because he held her all through the Caritas incident.
Because she felt comfortable telling him her stories.
Because she said he was the brains.
Because he loved her parents.
Because he was going to miss her.
Because he didn't need anyone else's vote, she stays!
Because he kissed her.
Because even as a homicidal insane misogynist he still called her "My Love."
Because he couldn't forgive himself, but she could.
Because he couldn't get her out of his head.
Because when she looks at him, he feels like he's the only one in the room.
Because Cordy thought they were perfect for each other.
Because Gunn wasn't an informed choice.
Because he just wanted her to be happy.
Because she thought he was adorable just like a puppy.
Because she knew he wouldn't betray them.
Because she believed he had a reason.
Because she wouldn't give up on looking for him.
Because she hit Justine when she found out what she did to Wesley
Because he helped only because it was Fred.
Because she was the one who wanted him to come back.
Because she went to him when Angel and Gunn didn't understand
Because he did.
Because he read her article.
Because he understood her article.
Because she was so happy about that.
Because they had sexual tension while planing a murder...
Because he saw her darkness, and still loved her.
Because even Gunn said they were "Kindred Spirits."
Because even with no memory of each other they were still drawn together.
Because 16 year old Wesley was *so* attracted to her.
Because 16 year old Wesley was brave for her.
Because they work well together.
Because Angelus saw she was Wesley's weakness.
Because she thought it was "Sweet and there was nothing wrong with it."
Because he kissed her again.
Because she kissed back.
Because if Gunn hadn't walked in there would have been more then just kissing!
Because when it was over with Charles he couldn't even say he was sorry...
Because he was the one she trusted to tell about Jasmin.
Because he said she had grace and gentle beauty.
Because we were with Wesley, Knox needed to die.
Because they spent the party together.
Because even drunk together they can get the job done.
Because she's his muscle.
Because even Cyborg Impostor Father noticed his feelings for her.
Because "he pointed a gun at you, Fred, so I shot him."
Because she wanted to stay.
Because she gave him one hell of a look.
Because it turns out he's just as oblivious as she is!
Because Knox didn't make her laugh.
Because she isn't looking for so much as looking at.
Because sharing a cup of coffee is damn sexy!
Because they both started to like Smile Time.
Because she kissed him!
Because science nerd talk turns him on!
Because she called him book man.
Because their chance was cut way too short.
Because he called her a hero.
Because she wanted to know if he could have loved her.
Because He loved her before he knew her.
Because she wanted to spend what was left of her time with him.
Because He's with her.
Because he wouldn't leave her.
Because he said she was so brave.
Because he called her his world.
Because losing her drove him mad.
Because he couldn't let go of what was left of her.
Because he wouldn't destroy what was left of her.
Because her parents were trying to set them up.
Because he had no perfect day without her.
Because his last wish was to see her again.
Because their love was so strong it brought Illyria to tears.
After the fall:
Because when Fred came back her first word was Wesley.
Because Spike never would have brought Illyria around if he knew Wesley was there.
Because Wesley knew her well enough to spot a fake right away.
Because Wesley wants to be with her more then anything.
Because Fred's fighting to come out.
Because it was Wesley who made Illyria flash back.
Because Illyria wont let him go.
Because Wesley was worried that Spike and Illyria might be... you know....
Because Illyria refuses to leave Wesley unprotected.

The Kisses:
The Stalker Kiss

The Fantasy Kiss

The Realization Kiss

The Screw Subtlety Kiss

The Never Enough Kiss

The Nerd Talk Kiss

The Last Kiss?

The Goodbye Kiss

The Art:
~borednow's ~

~Fresley4ever's~

The Quotes:
Season 3
-Heartthrob
Wesley (about Fred): "Nice girl."

-That Vision Thing
Wes: "No, Gunn, you misunderstand. - I mean - I'm not saying that we act differently. I just think we should be gentle in our inter... Evening, Cordy."
Gunn: "Hey, Cordelia."
Gunn: "How was that?"
Wesley: "I felt quite genuine."
Fred: "B plus. C minus. A girl can tell."
Wesley: "Fred - if you feel comfortable enough grading our sincerity how about joining us for the rest of the meal? - Isn't that the point of coming downstairs?"
Fred: "I guess that'd be okay."

Wesley: "Anything of interest yet, Fred?"
Fred: "Oh, sure. Lots. 'H' is a fascinating letter. Helicopters, helium, helmets, hernias...'
Wesley: "Did you happen to notice 'herbs' in your wanderings?"
Fred: "I did. Oh, right. There are, ah, lets see... five herbalist shops in Chinatown."

Fred: "Maybe we could ask them. Y-you used the word 'communicate' which got me thinking - every thing's made of energy, right? Light waves, radio waves, x-rays, even brain waves are all electric energy. If Cordelia is receiving visions from the Powers That Be they're being communicated somehow. Maybe we could figure out the frequency and trace the calls."
Wesley: "Yes. Of course. Well done, Fred."

-Carpe Noctem
Fred: "And he opened every door for me and he paid for the tickets. And even bought a giant popcorn. And every few minutes he'd go like this. Because he wanted me to know it was okay for me to have some. And he's so lonely because he's the last man on earth."
Wes: "Angel?"
Fred: "No! Charlton Heston. The Omega Man? Omega being the last letter of the Greek alphabet so it's a metaphor. And he walks on the street side and not the building side. It's old-fashioned, but kind of chivalrous, you know?"
Wes: "We're back to talking about Angel."
Fred: "Right. And even though he didn't talk a lot, it was still okay. It was comfortable. It wasn't that awkward kind of quiet. You know that awkward kind of quiet?"
* silence.*
Wesley: "No. That's never happened to me."

-Fredless
Wes: "How does it feel, Fred?"
Fred: "Like my heart's been put in one of those orange juice squeezers... Oh. Kind of like a giant bug tried to rip my arm off and Angel saved me."
Trish: "He seems to do *that* a lot, doesn't he?"
Fred: "It's what he does. Angel's the champion, and Wesley's the brains of the operation, Gunn's the muscle and Cordy's the heart, and I'm..."

Cordy: "In a really weird way, you know who I miss?"
Wes: "Fred."

Wes: "She was so smart."

Wes: "And at the bus station, when Trish ran over the mother..."
Fred: "Or father. I think it might be a hive species gender neutral, but I'd have to do some research to back that up."
Wes: "The whole hive showed up in order to reclaim its offspring. Brilliant deduction, Fred!"

Wes: "Lets put it to a vote, shall we? All in favor say aye. Aye. Motion passed. Good. You're staying."

-Billy
Wes: "I was thinking, perhaps I'd enter into a similar training arrangement with our Fred."
Cordy: "Oh, hey, if you think she can help you fight, why not? I'm kidding. - Wesley, if you wanna get to know Fred better, maybe the next time you have her over for an intimate dinner for two, you won't ask the rest of us to come along."
Wes: "Ah, I don't... I mean... Was I *that* obvious?"

Wes looking at Fred: "She is a rather extraordinary young woman. - Still, the last thing any of us should be doing is - coupling - with each other, I mean. Office romances, even under the most *normal* circumstances..."
Cordy: "We don't live in normal circumstances. - I mean, what are the odds of any of us actually finding someone out there who can deal with the kind of stuff we have to deal with? I don't know. Maybe we *are* meant..."
Wes: "For each other?"

Fred: "Sorry. - I left a bunch of messages."
Wes: "Yes. I meant to call you back. I'm sorry. I'm *so* sorry."
Fred: "Wesley, you gotta come back to work."
Wes: "How can I?"
Fred: "What do you mean? How can you not? You're the boss. We need you. - You took a few days off. That's good. We all did. - But now it's time to come back."
Wes: "Fred, I tried to kill you."
Fred: "That wasn't you."
Wes: "How can you know that? Something inside me was forced to the surface. Something primal, something..."
Fred: "Do you wanna kill me?"
Wes: "Oh, God, no."
Fred: "It wasn't something in you, Wesley. It was something that was done to you."
Wes: "I don't know what kind of man I am anymore."
Fred: "Well, I do. - You're a good man. - Will I see you back at the office?"
Wes: "Yeah."
Fred: "Good."

-Provider
Fred: "Sure. These are puzzle people. Did you notice the designs on their tunics? Geometric shapes. Each a prime number, if you count their edges, arranged in ascending order of exponential accumulation."
Wes: "Yes, I did - not - notice that at all."
Lorne: "Ah, they wanna know why your girlfriend was pointing at them. I better tell them what she said before we have an international incident."
Wes: "Ah, she's not my..."

Wes: "You read all the same science journals."

-Waiting in the Wings
Wes: "Honestly, have you ever seen anything lovelier? So - graceful, so full of life. And those eyes... make you feel like you’re the only man in the room."
Cordy: "Plus, six breast. Any man is gonna love that."
Wes: "Fred doesn't have six breasts! - Right?"

Cordy: "But not for another month or so. I'll file her under 'pending.' - You're gonna ask her out?"
Wes: "The Ravager?"
Cordy: "Fred."
Wes: "Oh. - Yes - but, you know - timing. I'll make my move when I feel the iron is hot."

Fred: "Can I ask you something?"
Cordy: "I think you guys are perfect for each other. I have magic powers, remember?"

Wes: "He was obsessed with the girl. - When he found her with the other man, he went insane with jealous rage - pulled her out of time, out of any reality beyond *his* theater, his company. He swore she would dance for him forever."
Fred: "How did you..."
Wes: "I - ah, - I hit a hotspot, too."

Fred: "Well, that's a surprise. I thought for sure she was meant to be with Angel. I guess you never can predict those things. You know?"
Wes: "No. I guess you never can."

... *bawls like a baby*

-Loyalty
Loa (to Wesley): "You risk your life, human, calling on the Loa. Perhaps what you really seek is death. The pain in your heart begs for it."

-Forgiving
Fred: "He wouldn't betray us... he wouldn't... And he wouldn't leave without saying something to me... not unless he had a hell of a big urgent reason.

Fred: what else could Wes do?...it's right here. "I have to save them both." He had to save Connor from Angel and Angel from doing something unspeakable...

-The Price
Fred: Cor...?
Cordy: No. You want me to say something to Angel about Wesley. Sorry. Can't. Won't.
Fred: Why? Why can't you? You've known them both longer than anybody. Angel would listen to you...
Cordy: Probably. But he doesn't want to hear it. Which is why I'm not going to burden him--
Fred: Look, whatever he did... It's Wesley. You care about it. I know you do. Can you imagine the pain he's in, how horrible he must be feeling--

Wesley: I'll help because it's Fred.

-Tomorrow
Lilah: "I'm starting to like you, Wes. Don't go making more of this than it is. I'm not one of the doe-y eyed girls of Angel Investigations. - Don't be thinking about me when I'm gone."
Wes: "I wasn't thinking about you when you were here."

And on that note of disturbing on to season 4!

Season 4-

-Supersymmetry
Fred: You were there?
Wesley:I read your article. Saw you'd be speaking. It was an excellent piece. Although I'm not sure I understand how Pauli repulsion is so readily reversed. (beat) Layman's opinion.
Fred: You've been keeping track of me?
Wesley: Yes.

Wesley: You remember everything we went over?
Fred: I do. And I'm gonna give him exactly what he deserves, (looks at Wes) thanks to you.

-Spin The Bottle
GUNN: So, I guess I'm the muscle, huh?
WESLEY: Sorry?
GUNN: Angel's the man on the card. It's his world. I'm not a leader no more. Don't got that champion's heart like Cordy. And the brains—that was you. So that leaves muscle.
WESLEY: What about Fred?
GUNN:Well, that's the question, isn't it? She's pretty brainy too. Maybe you two are kindred souls. Maybe that's why she went to you for help getting revenge on that Professor. Killing takes brains.
WESLEY: I did what you weren't prepared to do.
GUNN: You have no idea what I've—What I would do for her.
WESLEY: Is there some reason I should need to know?
GUNN: You think I don't smell this a mile off? You think I don't know why you keep coming back here?
WESLEY: Because you keep needing my help.
GUNN: I'm gonna say this once: you move on Fred, and I'm gonna put you down hard.
WESLEY: I'm glad to see you have such faith in your relationship.

FRED: I just don't think we should be rulin' out the idea of aliens. I mean, he is a greenish sorta fella. And his bein' asleep all that time. I mean, think about it a minute. They could have been doin' Heaven knows what. I can just see myself lying on a table—no clothes, no will—while they probed and explored and did whatever they wanted to my naked, helpless body. It's horrible.
WESLEY: Horrible. Yes. But I assure you, this is demonic work. And they're not nearly so exploratory as— Don't be afraid.

FRED:What do we do?
WESLEY: Don't fear. It's under control.

-Apocalypse, Nowish
LILAH: Did it turn you on? Watching her up there in front of all those braniacs knowing she was the smartest one in the room?
WESLEY: Her theories deserve attention.
LILAH: Just her theories? I saw the way you looked at her. Oh, come on. Do you think I care about your little crush? Moon all you want of the Texas twig 'cause I know whose bed you'll be crawling into at the end of the day.

WESLEY: It is a bit ripe in here. I'd suggest opening a window, but—
GUNN: Fred's not here.
WESLEY: Didn't ask.
GUNN: Didn't have to.

-Habeas Corpses
WESLEY: I'm choosing a side.
LILAH: And the girl of your dreams just happens to be on it. Hmm. What are the odds?

FRED: I mean, I know you run your own shop, but inside data on Wolfram and Hart—pretty amazing.

-Long Day's Journey
WESLEY: Well we can't assume that yet. This Beast has killed hundreds of people with his bare hands. You throw in the storms and earthquakes that accompanied the rain of fire, you could put the death toll in the thousands.
FRED: Wes is right. Statistically, it's still a coincidence. Two points—
WESLEY: Make a line, not a pattern.

WESLEY: We may have a solution for that.
FRED: We've done a lot of research, and we think we've found a way to get rid of the Beast. A portal.

-Awakening
FRED: Working on it. Failing miserably, but working on it. I could really use some help deciphering some of these symbols—or, all of them, really. (sighs) I need Wesley— his expertise.

-Soulless
WESLEY:I want to know how to kill the Beast. It has nothing to do with being a hero.
ANGELUS: Sure it does, but why now? Can't be because there's an apocalypse coming—always one of those around the corner.
WESLEY: Enlighten me.
ANGELUS: "Foul rag-and-bone shop of the heart." That's where you live.
WESLEY: Meaning?
ANGELUS: You want to impress the girl. Move in, get her to love you, and after a couple days of flowers and chocolate covered cherries, you'll bend her over the kitchen counter—

ANGELUS(To Gun and Fred):Othello and Desdemona. My favorite couple. Oh, wait, Desdemona wasn't in love with the other guy. So much for stand by your man.

FRED:I wanted to thank you. If you hadn't've come in when you did...
WESLEY: He's not there.
FRED: It's— Charles heard what Angelus said. The stuff about—
WESLEY: Me.
FRED:Yeah, and—
WESLEY:How I feel about you.
FRED: Yes, which is very sweet. There's nothing wrong with i—
WESLEY: Yes there is. *KISS!*

GUNN: And you, running off to him every time you need help, like I'm not good enough.
FRED: No, that's not— This isn't the time.

GUNN: You just take what you want, huh—
FRED: Come on.
GUNN: —no matter who it belongs to.
WESLEY: I didn't realize Fred came with a deed.
FRED: Stop it! What's wrong with you?
GUNN: You don't realize a lot of things, like the fact that nobody wants you here.
WESLEY: 'Cause you do such a bang-up job without me.
LORNE:Hey, hey, come on, guys. Let's not say anything that—
GUNN: Shut up, Lorne! Great idea, Wes, stealing Angel's kid. Oh, was losing him a part of your plan, too?
WESLEY: Go ahead. Throw some more blame around. It's what you're best at.
GUNN: You want to say that again?
FRED: Oh, God.
WESLEY: Face it, Gunn, you can't give her what she needs.

- Calvary
FRED: Bringing Angelus was our best chance.
GUNN: That you talking, or Wes?
FRED: You were pushing for it too, Charles.
GUNN: Then maybe I did the wrong thing.
ANGELUS: Like smacking your girl around? I betcha Wes would never hit her. He's all proper and English. And that accent—Oh, chicks just love a good accent. Makes 'em all buttery in their nether regions. Isn't that right, Fred?

GUNN: I did what I had to do.
ANGELUS: I guess Fred didn't quite see it that way, huh? Wow. You do a chick a favor, you think she'd be grateful, but no. Mm-mm. She still goes for the broody smart guy, all mysterious and tortured. I guess, when you think about it, for the first time in your life, you just weren't dark enough.

WESLEY: Fred. What happened between me and Gunn— I didn't mean— That's not what I wanted. Could you tell him that?
FRED: I don't think he'll listen. We're not— We're not together anymore.
WESLEY: Oh. Not because of what I did?
FRED: Things just haven't been right. Not for a while.
WESLEY: I think this is the part where I'm supposed to say I'm sorry, and I'm really trying to be, but—

ANGELUS: Ooh, she really has put on spunk, hasn't she, Wes. Not the same, shy, bitchcow we pulled out of Pylea.
FRED: There's only one bitch here, and I'm looking at him.
ANGELUS: Oh, come on, we all know it's for the best. Now you can go for the real prize. Mm. Man, I'm telling ya... man, if I swung that way... Look at him— all rugged and handsome and brains... man, he's damn-near perfect.
WESLEY: Thank you.

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