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Welcome to the Treat Williams/Andy Brown Appreciation Thread!

1. Trace proposes to Abby
2. Mick and Megan reconcile
3. Kevin finds love with Sarah.
4. David comes back to Jess
5. Jess expands the Inn and becomes a chain of Inns
6. Trace and Abby have a baby together
7. Trace and Abby get married

(pm the thread starter to add your thoughts!)

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Michelle's recap from 2x10

Originally Posted by Michellet (View Post) Chesapeake Shores 2.10 FREEFALL Trace and Abby having the picnic in the park where he serenades her was so full of cheese yet I was eating up every moment. So adorable. I wonder what Trace was going to say to Abby before the children interrupted. They love Trace so much and he is all in when it comes to being there for them. Love the quick kiss and Trace off having fun with them. Megan nervous over her speech is hilarious. I can relate. I hate those type of speeches! I'm shocked no one immediately figured out when Bree brought out an old portrait she found in the attic the mystery man in the picture was a past love of Gran's. She made it pretty obvious but no one picked up on it. The Trace Riley Band... I think John is a prick (Patricia, we still haven't figured out why he's not neurological impaired anymore but he's good as new! ) but I can see why he's wanting to make a living doing music and actually getting paid. I even mentioned up thread Trace is in the perfect situation making money running the club yet the other two are basically doing gigs for free. I get why he wants to make it big and have being away from family mean something. I see why contacting Mark really is a good decision. Oh man I called the tension between Mick and Connor over Connor working with Uncle Thomas a while ago. Connor really should have told Mick right away. I can see why Mick is a bit hurt. Then again, Mick should understand he doesn't have clear communication with his children and really never has so his expectations should lower a tad. No, go away Douglas. He's attracted to Abby, you can tell. He basically does whatever she says. He's using the business stuff to get closer by asking her opinion, calling her a straight shooter. Whatever, go away, Douglas. Awesome, Kevin runs into Sarah! I love how they clearly communicate instantly, with Kevin filling her in on his new apartment and paramedic training. Of course she is proud and asks him to help her with the art booth. They are so reuniting! More band stuff... going to go to sleep while it's on... boringggggggg... Anyway, Mark gets to even see Abby this time around. So a six-month tour opening for a huge band (with an extension for longer as well) all over the US and even overseas. Bree and Simon still not totally doing it for me. Initially I liked them but now they're just blah. Glad Jess interrupted, lol, and told them David is quitting... okay so David has millions, or his family does. I figured something was up and mentioned up thread he never got paid, there had to be a reason why he was able to function without getting paid. Now we know! Poor Jess... David reveals this bomb then tells her he has to leave for a while due to family stuff. Sucks to be Jess. She opened her heart which is difficult for her to do and now he's leaving. Kevin joining saying he is not over Sarah and they are in the friends zone now was hilarious, lol. Mick and Thomas... such tremendous actors but this brother war over business is kind of getting old... Thomas lets Mick know he found out Matt Fox backed out of the deal. Mick doesn't need Matt then Thomas conveniently mentions Connor. Was that slightly devious of Thomas to mention Connor now? Is Thomas working with Connor to get under Mick's skin? I really hope not. Like the scene with Megan rehearsing her art walk introduction speech to Abby and Gran and accepting feedback while Megan encourages Abby to see the positive. Oh Trace, you will regret saying no to the tour. He will eventually blame Abby for not going and that is not a good thing. I can see why Trace is scared though... he doesn't want to leave Abby. He says club too but it's ideally about Abby. Jess and Bree and their quirky moments together are always fun. Interviewing the new chef while David comes clean about having millions. What a both funny and dramatic scene. David not telling Jess who he was does suck. I can see why he wanted to get away from his family though for a while anyway to explore being a chef. Oh man, more stupid Douglas now meeting with Mick and Abby to discuss the land trust. Douglas is now intimately getting to know Abby's father and uncle. Too much information and knowledge. Go away, Douglas. Of course the siblings and Gran would tell Abby Trace’s decision to stay in Chesapeake Shores instead of tour is not a good one. Gran, Jess and Bree all express their disapproval of Trace’s decision, and they are right about Trace possibly resenting Abby. He does have to go just like Abby had to go to NYC. They are drawing a huge parallel here showing that Abby had to leave and they found each other again and now Trace has to leave and they will once again find each other because they are meant to be. But Trace has to go on tour. Bree dumps Simon. I actually can understand why. She got rid of a powerful, controlling jerk in Martin. Simon really did have zero business sending that in without her permission and I can understand why she'd be reminded of being with controlling Martin when Simon pulled that crap. I can understand why she broke up. Maybe it was a bit harsh and drastic but seeing it directly from Bree's point of view, I understand why she cut him loose. David and Jess are so cute... David is giving cooking lessons to Jess. He tells her the inn is going to be okay, but she tells him that doesn’t mean she will be. The hug was adorable. So heartbreaking that Jess tells David she cannot hear a goodbye. I don't get why they don't just continue to be official but long distance while he's gone? I guess they sort of are but it seems a bit more distant and up in the air than that... I don't get why they just can't be long distance but still totally official in a verbal way. Oh well, they are not over, they can't be! Abby telling Trace he has to go on tour is so heartbreaking. What a sad scene. She's letting him go because she loves him and she left for NYC, now he has to leave and go on tour. The writers are definitely going with a clear parallel here. As long as they reunite it's fine but this is difficult to watch. Trace says he loves her and says he doesn’t think he can handle losing her, again. She tells him if they were meant to be, it won’t be the end. So sad if even hopeful. At the art walk, Thomas and Mick have an exchange of words once again. Thomas tells Mick he is heading back to California but Mick bursts his bubble and tells Thomas he is packing to fulfill a childhood dream of visiting Peru and that he brought on a new investor for the land trust, which screws over the California plans, lol. Oh these two. Jess, Abby and Bree together talking at the art walk, staring at the black and white framed photo that Bree found earlier is such a sweet scene. Megan gave a great speech at the Art Walk by taking Gran's advice. Trace Riley Band gets going, David kisses Jess then leaves, Kevin gets an email on his phone telling him he has been accepted to Stanford’s School of Medicine while Abby just watches Trace perform with tears in her eyes. Watching those flashbacks and all they've been through is utter sadness... heartbreaking! Now I guess they have to even the score... Abby left for NY now Trace needs to leave on tour. They will find their way back, they will, they have to! I LOVE that Kevin and Sarah reunited! I wasn't expecting it. The irony is they were in the most distant place yet they reunite while Abby, Jess and Bree are either apart from their romantic interests or broken up. They absolutely are setting up for a season 3. I hope that means it's official or will soon be official. Way too many storylines were up in the air... definitely felt like a set up for season 3. I hope so! So sad some couples I love were open ended (Abby/Trace and Jess/David) but I have no doubt they will work things out. Sibling feud still in place and Connor now working for his uncle complicates matters. A bit disappointed we didn't receive a Mick/Megan scene. No sign of Gran's illness either throughout all of season 2. I wonder if it'll come up in season 3. Really liked this season. I hope there's a season 3!

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Patricia's recap from 2x10

Originally Posted by fulfilledღ (View Post) Chesapeake Shores 2.10 FREEFALL I was wondering that too. But my guess is that he was going to tell her that he loves her considering the end of the episode, he does it with such power and it didn't seem like an in the moment thing. I'm glad the girls are loving Trace around. But did they realize what Trace being around means? They love their father so much, how would they feel about another man stepping in and not trying to fill that role, but be like that role. Have that father figure presence. Right now it's just like he's a friend of mommy's and likes to hang out with. I'm hoping the writers will put something in there that will show some kind of challenging transition from having Trace as just a friend, to having Trace as a father figure. Maybe this is why he seems to have a stick up his ass all the time. He hasn't let go of the past, the past where everything was go, go and go some more. Now that it's go time again, he expects it to be the same. Everybody wants a piece of the action that is the Trace Riley Band. It's different now. It's not just four kids on the road trip of their lives. John has a family, which he only sees as himself making the sacrifices. Then there's Trace who has Abby by his side now and a potential family with it too if things lead to them getting married. I just hate how John acts like he's the only one making sacrifices when he can just simply walk away. I really thought Douglas was going to ask out Abby when he was in that conference, room, I was waiting for it. I really think he's the version of Leigh that is with Trace. They are in the same world, almost cut from the same cloth. You know it's going to lead to Abby needing someone by her side and she's going to be working with Douglas more. What's going to keep Douglas making a move on Abby. He knows she's with Trace, but Trace is going on tour for at least six months and who knows how long after that. I see this as a time to fight for what they want rather then let life pass them by. Awesome, Kevin runs into Sarah! I love how they clearly communicate instantly, with Kevin filling her in on his new apartment and paramedic training. Of course she is proud and asks him to help her with the art booth. They are so reuniting! I'm bored by all the band stuff too. Trace talked about walking away, not being apart of that life now, and now that they're being thrown a tour, and all this other stuff, he's on board again. Is Trace like John in chasing the money, too? It's kind of like they rewrote history with John now not being in an accident and Trace letting go of Nashville because of John's accident and everything was going too fast. So, is the show rewriting history or telling a new tale? I would never have guessed for Kevin to be this into a girl before. I always seem him as the cool guy, the one that didn't obsess over a girl before. Now Sarah's in the picture and he's going to his sister for advice. It's just a new side of Kevin we've never seen and it's really nice. I want to think that Thomas will be good to Connor when they really start working together. But I get the feeling that Thomas will get greedy and use Connor against Mick to get the information he wants. I just don't trust Thomas, although I can't entirely trust Mick either. There's just so much bad blood between them that it's hard to know which direction they're truly going. I just don't see what Bree saw in Simon. He's really blah as a person to me. She didn't like him when she first met him and hated his book. Then they started dating, or whatever it was. I'm glad she got rid of him. I can honestly see him turning into Simon, really, I can. He submitted her manuscript without an even hint. Sure he may not discourage Bree, on his terms. But he blatantly stole her manuscript. That's something Martin would do. She wasn't ready and not really sure she wanted it published in the first place. These two are far from over. I know he's going to return and they are going to pick up right where they left off. It is so heartbreaking! Watching it gets me everytime and I've seen it like three times and it still hurts. The look in his eyes, his entire body language, it's just heartbreaking. He finally gets Abby again, they are in a great place, he's building a relationship with Carrie and Caitlin and now this happens. I just don't understand. Well, I do understand. Trace wouldn't go if it meant he didn't have Abby's blessing. Of course he wants to go, he wants a second chance, but not if it meant losing Abby. I know they're gonna find each other again in six months and it'll be a magical reunion. But at what price does it cost for Trace to be on tour? They were offered more tours if this one goes well, which you know it will. Mark Hall saying you can't have it all, of course you can. It's like Abby broke up with him a second time. The first time she just left and Trace was broken, having to pick up the pieces when he finally realized she wasn't coming back. He found out she was marrying another man and then she had children with this man. Then so many years later, she's breaking up with him again. I'm not trying to make Abby the bad guy here, but she's the one who's breaking up with Trace Well, she did say not to tell her goodbye. But in a way, I think him kissing her on the cheek and leaving was his goodbye. You could tell that Jess knew it that he was leaving in that moment and he didn't have to say it. I just hate that Jess finally found herself a great man, and then he leaves. For good reason, I'm not saying David is skipping out on her. But he was totally not honest about where he came from. I mean if she didn't order those books and mistakenly ordered as many as she did, would she have found out David was from a wealthy family. When David's father was sick, how would he explain away his absence. I think with Jess and David getting involved, he should have told her, instead of her finding out on her own. The flashbacks hurt, they still do as I type this. At the end of the performance, it was clear that Trace knew Abby made the right decision. He couldn't go on tour and not know how she felt about it. She had his blessing. If Trace had any inclination that it was the wrong move, that he thought it would have worked out differently, he would've run after Abby. He would have tried to change anything he could. Trace just knows how it feels to lose her once and so unsure what will happen when he comes back home, will she be there? this is no way says series finale in every step of these character's stories. I just hope the 3rd season is just as a wonderful tribute as Seasons 1 and 2 were.

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Adore the title, thanks for starting the new thread, Patricia, and thanks for bringing our posts over too!

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Originally Posted by Patricia Chesapeake Shores 2.10 FREEFALL I was wondering that too. But my guess is that he was going to tell her that he loves her considering the end of the episode, he does it with such power and it didn't seem like an in the moment thing.

Definitely. Yes, I think that's precisely what he was going to tell her. I loved that scene so much, I didn't want it to end. Trace and Abby (along with the girls) just seemed so happy and at peace together. <3

I'm glad the girls are loving Trace around. But did they realize what Trace being around means? They love their father so much, how would they feel about another man stepping in and not trying to fill that role, but be like that role. Have that father figure presence. Right now it's just like he's a friend of mommy's and likes to hang out with. I'm hoping the writers will put something in there that will show some kind of challenging transition from having Trace as just a friend, to having Trace as a father figure.

Agreed. It's really, really going to suck for the girls. They see Trace as a someone important now. They really care about and enjoy spending time with him. It's so natural. The girls will definitely need to adjust if/when he leaves for six months (with some random time in between) and in a way I kind of agree with Wes here... He did warn Abby and even Trace about this very scenario. Initially it could have come across as jealousy but really, he was right about his girls getting close to Trace and then Trace leaving. That looks like precisely what is about to take place.

Maybe this is why he seems to have a stick up his ass all the time. He hasn't let go of the past, the past where everything was go, go and go some more. Now that it's go time again, he expects it to be the same. Everybody wants a piece of the action that is the Trace Riley Band. It's different now. It's not just four kids on the road trip of their lives. John has a family, which he only sees as himself making the sacrifices. Then there's Trace who has Abby by his side now and a potential family with it too if things lead to them getting married. I just hate how John acts like he's the only one making sacrifices when he can just simply walk away.

Very true. I hated, and I mean hated how he brought up Abby to Trace too. That was a low blow. Leigh actually didn't bother me much in this episode which is shocking. John definitely seems shady all the time. I do understand his need to want to cash in on success of course but I dislike how abrasive and blunt he is. It's almost as if he thinks they owe him because of the accident. The accident that suddenly he is not neurologically disabled from anymore which continues to be a huge mystery. The other thing I find interesting is he is talking about having a family but he was also the first to want to take the band on that little gig away from Chesapeake Shores when Abby even said that version of Trace is not who he wants to be. So which is it, John? Are you responsible and thinking of your family or are you that guy that wants dramatic trouble and mischief as a carefree musician?

I really thought Douglas was going to ask out Abby when he was in that conference, room, I was waiting for it. I really think he's the version of Leigh that is with Trace. They are in the same world, almost cut from the same cloth. You know it's going to lead to Abby needing someone by her side and she's going to be working with Douglas more. What's going to keep Douglas making a move on Abby. He knows she's with Trace, but Trace is going on tour for at least six months and who knows how long after that. I see this as a time to fight for what they want rather then let life pass them by.

There was also this weird touch that the camera panned in on that worked my last nerve. I didn't know if I was seeing things but I think it was there. Yes, I honestly thought he was going to get really personal there too. Good point going with a parallel of John and Leigh. Very, very true.

I'm bored by all the band stuff too. Trace talked about walking away, not being apart of that life now, and now that they're being thrown a tour, and all this other stuff, he's on board again. Is Trace like John in chasing the money, too? It's kind of like they rewrote history with John now not being in an accident and Trace letting go of Nashville because of John's accident and everything was going too fast. So, is the show rewriting history or telling a new tale?

It is very strange. Do you think there's a possibility that Trace doesn't go or he comes home early? I know mainly he didn't want to go for Abby but I mentioned how much the club meant to him and he is leaving the club too. I just don't see Trace as wanting that kind of lifestyle. He wants to be known as a serious, capable musician but rock/country star? No, that's not him. I will be shocked if he lasts on tour for very long and I think there's a slight possibility he doesn't even go.

I would never have guessed for Kevin to be this into a girl before. I always seem him as the cool guy, the one that didn't obsess over a girl before. Now Sarah's in the picture and he's going to his sister for advice. It's just a new side of Kevin we've never seen and it's really nice.

I love it.

I want to think that Thomas will be good to Connor when they really start working together. But I get the feeling that Thomas will get greedy and use Connor against Mick to get the information he wants. I just don't trust Thomas, although I can't entirely trust Mick either. There's just so much bad blood between them that it's hard to know which direction they're truly going.

I know. I think both brothers have tricks they are willing to play and I'm afraid of Connor getting stuck in the middle.

I just don't see what Bree saw in Simon. He's really blah as a person to me. She didn't like him when she first met him and hated his book. Then they started dating, or whatever it was. I'm glad she got rid of him. I can honestly see him turning into Simon, really, I can. He submitted her manuscript without an even hint. Sure he may not discourage Bree, on his terms. But he blatantly stole her manuscript. That's something Martin would do. She wasn't ready and not really sure she wanted it published in the first place.

Exactly. He was Martin there and I was proud of Bree for not wanting any part of that crap. Outside of the writing angle and both being creative, I don't really see what she sees in Simon either. I don't find him remotely attractive and his accent is too stuffy for a very carefree and slightly eccentric Bree. They just seem like oil and water way too much. This is a really weird comparison of course but do you know who I see Bree with? Someone with a personality like Kevin... serious, intelligent but can also let loose and have some fun. I really enjoy their sibling interaction and banter. If Bree could find a romantic interest like that, it would wonderful. I love Bree. Her personality sparkles. She needs to be with someone who isn't Simon.

These two are far from over. I know he's going to return and they are going to pick up right where they left off.

I hope so.

It is so heartbreaking! Watching it gets me everytime and I've seen it like three times and it still hurts. The look in his eyes, his entire body language, it's just heartbreaking. He finally gets Abby again, they are in a great place, he's building a relationship with Carrie and Caitlin and now this happens. I just don't understand. Well, I do understand. Trace wouldn't go if it meant he didn't have Abby's blessing. Of course he wants to go, he wants a second chance, but not if it meant losing Abby. I know they're gonna find each other again in six months and it'll be a magical reunion. But at what price does it cost for Trace to be on tour? They were offered more tours if this one goes well, which you know it will. Mark Hall saying you can't have it all, of course you can.

I honestly cannot rewatch this scene. Not yet. We better get a season 3 because things cannot be left like this.

It's like Abby broke up with him a second time. The first time she just left and Trace was broken, having to pick up the pieces when he finally realized she wasn't coming back. He found out she was marrying another man and then she had children with this man. Then so many years later, she's breaking up with him again. I'm not trying to make Abby the bad guy here, but she's the one who's breaking up with Trace

I know. When she walked away and he was just left standing there too... ahhhh, so sad!

Well, she did say not to tell her goodbye. But in a way, I think him kissing her on the cheek and leaving was his goodbye. You could tell that Jess knew it that he was leaving in that moment and he didn't have to say it. I just hate that Jess finally found herself a great man, and then he leaves. For good reason, I'm not saying David is skipping out on her. But he was totally not honest about where he came from. I mean if she didn't order those books and mistakenly ordered as many as she did, would she have found out David was from a wealthy family. When David's father was sick, how would he explain away his absence. I think with Jess and David getting involved, he should have told her, instead of her finding out on her own.

Oh I know, that was his form of goodbye. I also agree that he should have told her what was going on. Especially since he knew how difficult it was for her to open up. She gave him multiple chances to talk about his private life too and he was always closed off. He really should have told her. I'm actually shocked she didn't get super pissed at him.

The flashbacks hurt, they still do as I type this. At the end of the performance, it was clear that Trace knew Abby made the right decision. He couldn't go on tour and not know how she felt about it. She had his blessing. If Trace had any inclination that it was the wrong move, that he thought it would have worked out differently, he would've run after Abby. He would have tried to change anything he could. Trace just knows how it feels to lose her once and so unsure what will happen when he comes back home, will she be there?

Douglas better not be around. That's what I don't get... will they talk daily? Will they resume the romance, just long distance or are they literally breaking apart for six months? There is some down time he can use to come home during those six months too so will they see each other?

this is no way says series finale in every step of these character's stories. I just hope the 3rd season is just as a wonderful tribute as Seasons 1 and 2 were.

Me too! I really love this series. I do not want to see it end. Season 3 is a must!

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Originally Posted by Michelle (View Post) Definitely. Yes, I think that's precisely what he was going to tell her. I loved that scene so much, I didn't want it to end. Trace and Abby (along with the girls) just seemed so happy and at peace together. <3

I think Trace can see himself as being their stepfather. But he doesn't want to overstep his bounds. I mean really, what role does Trace have in their lives. It's clear that Wes will be around, as he deserves to be, he is their father and he does provide for them.

That scene, it was almost too perfect really. The kids playing, Abby and Trace off in their own little world. Sure it was cheesy, but if given the chance, that's what their lives can be like.

Originally Posted by Michelle (View Post) really going to suck for the girls. They see Trace as a someone important now. They really care about and enjoy spending time with him. It's so natural. The girls will definitely need to adjust if/when he leaves for six months (with some random time in between)

It's really not fair that Trace says goodbye to Abby and not the girls. They're going to wonder where Trace is. I feel like we've should've had a scene of Trace saying goodbye to them. Not sure what would be harder. Saying goodbye to Abby or saying goodbye to the girls. Abby understands, the girls don't. That's what I worry about. Trace coming in and out of their lives with his music career. What chance at a family do Abby and Trace have if he keeps his music career going that way.

Originally Posted by Michelle (View Post) and in a way I kind of agree with Wes here... He did warn Abby and even Trace about this very scenario. Initially it could have come across as jealousy but really, he was right about his girls getting close to Trace and then Trace leaving. That looks like precisely what is about to take place.

Maybe it was telling us to be prepared?! I mean, Wes predicted it, but was he predicting it out of jealousy, as you say. I thing for Wes, it was more wishful thinking then actually caring about Trace's career and making the big time.

Originally Posted by Michelle (View Post) Very true. I hated, and I mean hated how he brought up Abby to Trace too.

He has no right to bring up Abby and Trace. He has no idea what their relationship is like. I just think John is going to screw everything. He just wants all the money and the fame. He doesn't care about how it affects everyone else. Maybe John was always like that. The reason why they were going nonstop in Nashville the first time was because it was him pushing for it to happen. I don't trust him. I just see nothing but shady things from John. Woudln't surprise me if he even gave Abby the idea that Trace loves the music more than her.

Originally Posted by Michelle (View Post) Leigh actually didn't bother me much in this episode which is shocking.

I thought she looked sort of pretty

Originally Posted by Michelle (View Post) The accident that suddenly he is not neurologically disabled from anymore which continues to be a huge mystery.

I just want to know what it is with that. He was so bitter and going to surgery after surgery and maybe not making it every time. There's nothing I like about it. I feel like we're spinning in circles with this story, but there's no beginning or end. I just want to know if John was magically healed or they rewrote the story. I won't be mad if they rewrote it, I just want to know so I can watch the show and not guess.

Originally Posted by Michelle (View Post) Do you think there's a possibility that Trace doesn't go or he comes home early? I know mainly he didn't want to go for Abby but I mentioned how much the club meant to him and he is leaving the club too. I just don't see Trace as wanting that kind of lifestyle. He wants to be known as a serious, capable musician but rock/country star? No, that's not him. I will be shocked if he lasts on tour for very long and I think there's a slight possibility he doesn't even go.

Of course he'll go, I just hope he doesn't get himself into something, again, that he doesn't want. He always talked about not wanting that lifestyle. How can it be differnet. It might be a different band they're touring with and different cities they're staying in. But come on, it's the same lifestyle. Trace may be talking to Abby on the phone every night, visiting home whenever he gets a few days stretch off. But what kind of life is that. Trace will just be killing himself. And when 6 months ends? What then, another tour because the first time went so well. Then another album, more music, more studio time. It's a musician's career. Does Trace want to make music or be a musician. It's a huge difference. And if Trace is doing that all the time, who is Abby going to be furious with...herself?

Originally Posted by Michelle (View Post) If Bree could find a romantic interest like that, it would wonderful. I love Bree. Her personality sparkles. She needs to be with someone who isn't Simon.

They need to take an insert out of the book! Come on, her book romance was amazing, unmatched, really. But I think Bree needs some time on her own, in her own skin. Who is Bree O'Brien, really? She went from Martin to Simon, both writers, both controlling in their ways. I Just don't trust Simon. Him submitting her manuscript to publish was just wrong. That IS something Martin would do. Sure he didn't mean anything by it, but why did he do it and at least not ask Bree about it? Sure he thinks it's good, but what about the author behind it. Those are her words, her feelings and he just took them and threw them out to sea to see if they float.

Originally Posted by Michelle (View Post) Oh I know, that was his form of goodbye. I also agree that he should have told her what was going on. Especially since he knew how difficult it was for her to open up. She gave him multiple chances to talk about his private life too and he was always closed off. He really should have told her. I'm actually shocked she didn't get super pissed at him.

Yes! I get that he wanted to make it on his own. But once he bought the books and still had books and still had money to buy all the food for the inn iwthout getting paid much salary or get reimbursed with the money he spent and live on his own in a somewhat nice apartment. He should've told her. She would find out and where would they be? And then he had to leave to take care of his father. Did he think he could just never tell her and live in Chesapeake Shores as a regular guy?

Originally Posted by Michelle (View Post) Douglas better not be around. That's what I don't get... will they talk daily? Will they resume the romance, just long distance or are they literally breaking apart for six months? There is some down time he can use to come home during those six months too so will they see each other?

He better not be there to keep her comfortable for six months

Originally Posted by Michelle (View Post) Me too! I really love this series. I do not want to see it end. Season 3 is a must!

It's not just about Trace and Abby and can their relationship hold on. It's about everyone. Will Bree find the man she's supossed to be with? Will David come back to Jess. Will Gran finally tell the story about Dylan O'Malley?

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Originally Posted by fulfilledღ (View Post) I think Trace can see himself as being their stepfather. But he doesn't want to overstep his bounds. I mean really, what role does Trace have in their lives. It's clear that Wes will be around, as he deserves to be, he is their father and he does provide for them.

Exactly. What I do wonder is how far the job Wes has is from Chesapeake Shores. Was that a hint he won't be around a lot?

That scene, it was almost too perfect really. The kids playing, Abby and Trace off in their own little world. Sure it was cheesy, but if given the chance, that's what their lives can be like.

It was so lovely, almost like they were in Heaven, it was that perfect.

It's really not fair that Trace says goodbye to Abby and not the girls. They're going to wonder where Trace is. I feel like we've should've had a scene of Trace saying goodbye to them. Not sure what would be harder. Saying goodbye to Abby or saying goodbye to the girls. Abby understands, the girls don't. That's what I worry about. Trace coming in and out of their lives with his music career. What chance at a family do Abby and Trace have if he keeps his music career going that way.

That's right. We really should have had a scene between Trace and the girls. JM would have hit Trace's pain and confusion out of the park trying to explain to the girls he had to go away for a while. Yes, the girls will not understand. He should probably expect a cold shoulder from the girls if he's gone for a while and they will essentially have to start over. Yes they cannot build a relationship/family together with Trace gone all the time.

I honestly think they are doing the Trace going on tour thing to even the score... Abby left for NYC so Trace now has to leave the relationship and go on tour. I think that's one of the main reasons they're going there. I still don't like it.

Maybe it was telling us to be prepared?! I mean, Wes predicted it, but was he predicting it out of jealousy, as you say. I thing for Wes, it was more wishful thinking then actually caring about Trace's career and making the big time.

I do think it was major foreshadowing for the audience.

He has no right to bring up Abby and Trace. He has no idea what their relationship is like. I just think John is going to screw everything. He just wants all the money and the fame. He doesn't care about how it affects everyone else. Maybe John was always like that. The reason why they were going nonstop in Nashville the first time was because it was him pushing for it to happen. I don't trust him. I just see nothing but shady things from John. Woudln't surprise me if he even gave Abby the idea that Trace loves the music more than her.

Agreed about John. He's shady all the way. His motives are selfish and he thinks nothing of using the accident and everything else as guilt and an excuse for his behavior.

I thought she looked sort of pretty

Me too!

I just want to know what it is with that. He was so bitter and going to surgery after surgery and maybe not making it every time. There's nothing I like about it. I feel like we're spinning in circles with this story, but there's no beginning or end. I just want to know if John was magically healed or they rewrote the story. I won't be mad if they rewrote it, I just want to know so I can watch the show and not guess.

LOL It's comical at this point. It has to be explained one way or another.

Of course he'll go, I just hope he doesn't get himself into something, again, that he doesn't want. He always talked about not wanting that lifestyle. How can it be differnet. It might be a different band they're touring with and different cities they're staying in. But come on, it's the same lifestyle. Trace may be talking to Abby on the phone every night, visiting home whenever he gets a few days stretch off. But what kind of life is that. Trace will just be killing himself. And when 6 months ends? What then, another tour because the first time went so well. Then another album, more music, more studio time. It's a musician's career. Does Trace want to make music or be a musician. It's a huge difference. And if Trace is doing that all the time, who is Abby going to be furious with...herself?

Definitely a horrible situation all around, very complicated. Abby knew it was leading to this too. She hasn't been comfortable in a while. Their little fishing/camping moment was beautiful and they so needed that time alone. But other than that time the entire season really has been about their professional careers and Abby's uneasiness about the band and when Trace was leaving. That's no way to live, with the stress of the unknown. Trace purchased a club! It was a huge dream, something he was so passionate about. He's leaving Abby and the club now to go on tour. What? It doesn't make any sense.

They need to take an insert out of the book! Come on, her book romance was amazing, unmatched, really. But I think Bree needs some time on her own, in her own skin. Who is Bree O'Brien, really? She went from Martin to Simon, both writers, both controlling in their ways. I Just don't trust Simon. Him submitting her manuscript to publish was just wrong. That IS something Martin would do. Sure he didn't mean anything by it, but why did he do it and at least not ask Bree about it? Sure he thinks it's good, but what about the author behind it. Those are her words, her feelings and he just took them and threw them out to sea to see if they float.

Simon was really out of line given what he did and it was just like Martin. You are right, both Martin and Simon are cut from the same cloth... writers, creative arts, and controlling. Bree is so turned off by it. Bree didn't even show any regret when she dumped Simon either. She was disgusted almost. She needed away from him and got there without even hesitating. Good. You are right, she needs time alone. She deserves it.

Yes! I get that he wanted to make it on his own. But once he bought the books and still had books and still had money to buy all the food for the inn iwthout getting paid much salary or get reimbursed with the money he spent and live on his own in a somewhat nice apartment. He should've told her. She would find out and where would they be? And then he had to leave to take care of his father. Did he think he could just never tell her and live in Chesapeake Shores as a regular guy?

Yes, the entire situation is weird. I do believe they'll work it out but I just can't see Jess not kicking his a$$ once they are seeing each other again. She's not a doormat. He should have told her way sooner than he did. He also shouldn't have told her just to leave not only her/the relationship but then drop all the business stuff in her lap too like she is going to be able to do it all on her own as well. This is a very weird situation. Is David in the books?

He better not be there to keep her comfortable for six months

I know!

It's not just about Trace and Abby and can their relationship hold on. It's about everyone. Will Bree find the man she's supossed to be with? Will David come back to Jess. Will Gran finally tell the story about Dylan O'Malley?

I'm also wondering if we'll ever find out about the mysterious illness Gran was diagnosed with in season 1 as well. That was dropped just like John's health issue too. Gran's illness seemed very serious, borderline terminal the way it was described yet nothing at all in season 2 about it? Weird.

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Originally Posted by Michelle (View Post) Exactly. What I do wonder is how far the job Wes has is from Chesapeake Shores. Was that a hint he won't be around a lot?

I was just wondering about him, really. More so when he's going to come back and disrupt everything. Well, he can't disrupt it more than Trace and Abby did themselves. I know Wes said in the finale that he was getting a job closer to Chesapeake Shores, but how close? He gave custody to Abby, as long as he could still see the girls. So, where is Wes? They don't seem to be missing him either.

Originally Posted by Michelle (View Post) It was so lovely, almost like they were in Heaven, it was that perfect.

They've had so much hardship, it was nice to have a simple moment that was just them. I just hope it's a foreshadowing moment for them in what it's gonna be like when Trace returns home from the tour.

Originally Posted by Michelle (View Post) That's right. We really should have had a scene between Trace and the girls. JM would have hit Trace's pain and confusion out of the park trying to explain to the girls he had to go away for a while. Yes, the girls will not understand. He should probably expect a cold shoulder from the girls if he's gone for a while and they will essentially have to start over. Yes they cannot build a relationship/family together with Trace gone all the time.

I'm kind of sad that Trace hasn't had some screen time with the girls outside of the moments they had in the park. Even if Trace doesn't want to be that stepfather, yet, he's still in Abby's life a lot. That would confuse the girls, I'm really surprised it hasn't been bought up. I know Abby introduced Trace to them as her friend, but when does the conversation go from friend, this is mommy's boyfriend or sometime down the road fiance. With Trace saying "I want to spend the rest of my life with you" hints that when he gets home and they still want to be together, he's gong to propose. It's no doubt about it. I'm shocked he hasn't already. Maybe if we had 22 episode seasons, he would have But alas, we don't

Originally Posted by Michelle (View Post) I honestly think they are doing the Trace going on tour thing to even the score... Abby left for NYC so Trace now has to leave the relationship and go on tour. I think that's one of the main reasons they're going there. I still don't like it.

Possibly. But I think Trace does need to follow his dreams, for him. If Abby was able to go, if there were no Caitlin and Carrie, he would always make sure she was happy and putting himself second.

It always wonders to me that if Abby came back and she didn't have the girls whether she never had children or they were in New York with Wes. How would everything have changed. Abby's holding back a lot because of her girls. She doesn't want to bring too much on them. They already watched their parents divorce, moved to a new town, going to a new school and then mommy has a new friend. But what if none of those really happened? Would Abby be Trace's groupie, so to speak? Would she just move into his house and know that she would be with Trace forever?

Originally Posted by Michelle (View Post) I do think it was major foreshadowing for the audience.

I think the show has a lot of those foreshadowing moments. A lot of the O'Brien dinners seem to be speaking to the audience about family rather than speaking to each other and enhancing story lines.

Originally Posted by Michelle (View Post) Agreed about John. He's shady all the way. His motives are selfish and he thinks nothing of using the accident and everything else as guilt and an excuse for his behavior.

So let's take out the accident theory and the wheelchair theory, it seems the show has What is John's angle. If he just wanted the money, why not just make an album and forget the tour? Does he really think he's going to get ALL THIS MONEY by just being on tour? Touring is great, touring is more for exposure of the album they made. It's more about endorsements. Does John think this one tour is going to launch a career for the Trace Riley Band and he's gonna have millions. I don't trust anything he has to say. He's not just tired, well maybe tired of thinking it's all about everyone else. The whole tour business doesn't seem like a great idea with him involved.

I've had this idea for a while, never mentioned it because I thought I was overreaching. John seemed very forgiving of Trace about the accident when it came to Trace, sort of, being let off the hook. He said they were all tired and it was the right thing to do.

Trace says they were all going really fast. If Mark Hall is any indication that of how things went in Nashville and the group had no idea what they were getting themselves into, yeah, I agree, it was probably going at a fast pace. But how did John forgive so easily? When Trace went to visit him at the house and John answered in a wheelchair, he seemed to not want Trace in his life at all. I didn't think John would give him the time of day. He chose to come back, no one forced him. It's like he's using Trace's guilt into him being able to do or say whatever he wants. I just hope that attitude changes before the whole group is in the same place it was all that time ago but only this time, there is no getting up and going again.

Originally Posted by Michelle (View Post) Definitely a horrible situation all around, very complicated. Abby knew it was leading to this too. She hasn't been comfortable in a while. Their little fishing/camping moment was beautiful and they so needed that time alone. But other than that time the entire season really has been about their professional careers and Abby's uneasiness about the band and when Trace was leaving. That's no way to live, with the stress of the unknown. Trace purchased a club! It was a huge dream, something he was so passionate about. He's leaving Abby and the club now to go on tour. What? It doesn't make any sense.

I agree. Trace promised Mick his full investment back, he even talked about surprising Mick about his management skills. How would a conversation go with Mick that he was leaving? Does Mick know that Trace is leaving and leaving for six months? I guess it's tiny details and everything is in place to make the club work with Trace gone. But honestly, Trace has so many ties in Chesapeake Shores that don't revolve around his music career.

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Originally Posted by fulfilledღ (View Post) I was just wondering about him, really. More so when he's going to come back and disrupt everything. Well, he can't disrupt it more than Trace and Abby did themselves. I know Wes said in the finale that he was getting a job closer to Chesapeake Shores, but how close? He gave custody to Abby, as long as he could still see the girls. So, where is Wes? They don't seem to be missing him either.

Does Wes play a large role in the books?

They've had so much hardship, it was nice to have a simple moment that was just them. I just hope it's a foreshadowing moment for them in what it's gonna be like when Trace returns home from the tour.

I hope so too.

I'm kind of sad that Trace hasn't had some screen time with the girls outside of the moments they had in the park. Even if Trace doesn't want to be that stepfather, yet, he's still in Abby's life a lot. That would confuse the girls, I'm really surprised it hasn't been bought up. I know Abby introduced Trace to them as her friend, but when does the conversation go from friend, this is mommy's boyfriend or sometime down the road fiance. With Trace saying "I want to spend the rest of my life with you" hints that when he gets home and they still want to be together, he's gong to propose. It's no doubt about it. I'm shocked he hasn't already. Maybe if we had 22 episode seasons, he would have But alas, we don't

I thought when he sort of got down on one knee in the episode before the finale (I believe) it seemed like huge foreshadowing that a marriage proposal was in the works. I actually thought it might have happened in the finale but it didn't. I think a marriage proposal is coming very soon in season 3, if we get a season 3.

Possibly. But I think Trace does need to follow his dreams, for him. If Abby was able to go, if there were no Caitlin and Carrie, he would always make sure she was happy and putting himself second. It always wonders to me that if Abby came back and she didn't have the girls whether she never had children or they were in New York with Wes. How would everything have changed. Abby's holding back a lot because of her girls. She doesn't want to bring too much on them. They already watched their parents divorce, moved to a new town, going to a new school and then mommy has a new friend. But what if none of those really happened? Would Abby be Trace's groupie, so to speak? Would she just move into his house and know that she would be with Trace forever?

So true. Abby's children play part in how things have turned out. The other thing is the family is wealthy. Not just Mick's money but Abby has money due to her career too. She could easily take the family plane (they have a plane, right?) and spend time with Trace during these six months. She does have the means to go there. But with the girls, it's definitely not possible.

I think the show has a lot of those foreshadowing moments. A lot of the O'Brien dinners seem to be speaking to the audience about family rather than speaking to each other and enhancing story lines.

Absolutely.

So let's take out the accident theory and the wheelchair theory, it seems the show has What is John's angle. If he just wanted the money, why not just make an album and forget the tour? Does he really think he's going to get ALL THIS MONEY by just being on tour? Touring is great, touring is more for exposure of the album they made. It's more about endorsements. Does John think this one tour is going to launch a career for the Trace Riley Band and he's gonna have millions. I don't trust anything he has to say. He's not just tired, well maybe tired of thinking it's all about everyone else. The whole tour business doesn't seem like a great idea with him involved. I've had this idea for a while, never mentioned it because I thought I was overreaching. John seemed very forgiving of Trace about the accident when it came to Trace, sort of, being let off the hook. He said they were all tired and it was the right thing to do. Trace says they were all going really fast. If Mark Hall is any indication that of how things went in Nashville and the group had no idea what they were getting themselves into, yeah, I agree, it was probably going at a fast pace. But how did John forgive so easily? When Trace went to visit him at the house and John answered in a wheelchair, he seemed to not want Trace in his life at all. I didn't think John would give him the time of day. He chose to come back, no one forced him. It's like he's using Trace's guilt into him being able to do or say whatever he wants. I just hope that attitude changes before the whole group is in the same place it was all that time ago but only this time, there is no getting up and going again.

Agreed. The only thing I thought was good on John's end was by going to the prosecutor and supporting Trace. You have to wonder if he went there though to thicken the guilt Trace would feel knowing John also went to bat for him. He did reject Trace right after that and it wasn't until later (with the band a possibility again) that he seemed to have forgiven him, rather quickly like you said. I just don't know what his motives are. He continues to come across as shady, always having something up his sleeve.

I agree. Trace promised Mick his full investment back, he even talked about surprising Mick about his management skills. How would a conversation go with Mick that he was leaving? Does Mick know that Trace is leaving and leaving for six months? I guess it's tiny details and everything is in place to make the club work with Trace gone. But honestly, Trace has so many ties in Chesapeake Shores that don't revolve around his music career.

Absolutely. The other thing is Mick might be pissed that Trace left Abby too. It might remind him of Megan leaving for NY and what that felt like. Granted, Mick brought that on himself but he still could connect with the pain of Megan leaving like Abby is feeling the pain of Trace leaving too. It will be interesting to see how Mick reacts to Trace leaving the club and in his mind, leaving his daughter too.

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How do we not get a season 3 with record breaking ratings?!?!?!

Chesapeake Shores: Season Two Finale Ends on a High Note in the Ratings

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Originally Posted by Michelle (View Post) Does Wes play a large role in the books?

up to where I've read, no. However he played a more vindictive role in the books when Abby moved back to Chesapeake Shores. It was still the same story with Wes' girlfriend Gabrielle doing a dirty deal. But Trace poses more of a threat, I think, for Abby considering his career path being a lot more stable in the books. I don't want to give it away, but towards the end of the book, Wes isn't so much of a threat. I think that's why we've barely seen him in the second season.

Originally Posted by Michelle (View Post) I thought when he sort of got down on one knee in the episode before the finale (I believe) it seemed like huge foreshadowing that a marriage proposal was in the works. I actually thought it might have happened in the finale but it didn't. I think a marriage proposal is coming very soon in season 3, if we get a season 3.

If their relationship can survive this, then yeah, I think a marriage proposal would be a definite next step. I feel like when they would say "i miss you" it was a premature "i love you" but their relationship, their grownup relationship wasn't there yet.

Originally Posted by Michelle (View Post) So true. Abby's children play part in how things have turned out. The other thing is the family is wealthy. Not just Mick's money but Abby has money due to her career too. She could easily take the family plane (they have a plane, right?) and spend time with Trace during these six months. She does have the means to go there. But with the girls, it's definitely not possible.

Not take the family plane. You know Mick is quite the traveler lol But she could take time off work a few days for a long weekend here and there to visit Trace. It's totally possible. Not everything has to be one sided and both suffer in the relationship.

It'll be a definite test in their relationship, but it's one they can survive. I mean they survived Abby leaving and coming back 17 years later. They survived she getting married and getting divorced and having two kids in between and figuring out how they can come together and have it make sense for everyone. They can whether six months

Originally Posted by Michelle (View Post) Agreed. The only thing I thought was good on John's end was by going to the prosecutor and supporting Trace. You have to wonder if he went there though to thicken the guilt Trace would feel knowing John also went to bat for him. He did reject Trace right after that and it wasn't until later (with the band a possibility again) that he seemed to have forgiven him, rather quickly like you said. I just don't know what his motives are. He continues to come across as shady, always having something up his sleeve.

I'm thinking John isn't being so honest in what happened that night of the accident. Was he as paralyzed as he put to Trace. Now it looks like the accident never happened. I thought, even if John is walking, that the accident would be a bigger issue. In the first season, John was in and out of surgery just to stay alive. Now he's live and kicking with a family? I know sometimes it's bad writing. I just don't see John as a good guy. The way he's acting now...he's far from innocent. I think John went to bat for Trace with that warrant was because Trace wasn't completely at fault. No one talks about what happened that night. All they mention is everyone was tired and Trace shouldn't have gotten behind the wheel. Was Trace drinking? Was John able to drive but had been drinking. I just don't trust that John is telling the truth about that night. I don't think Trace remembers all that much or just isn't saying anything either. Was Leigh with them that night? Maybe she can clear things up? I see her being the mediator between John and Trace, oddly enough. I don't hate Leigh, I just don't like what she brings to the table.

Originally Posted by Michelle (View Post) Absolutely. The other thing is Mick might be pissed that Trace left Abby too. It might remind him of Megan leaving for NY and what that felt like. Granted, Mick brought that on himself but he still could connect with the pain of Megan leaving like Abby is feeling the pain of Trace leaving too. It will be interesting to see how Mick reacts to Trace leaving the club and in his mind, leaving his daughter too.

If we do get a season 3, I want there to be a conversation about (either current or flashbacks) of Mick talking to Abby about the night and days after that Megan left. I know Trace is saying six months, but Megan said she would send for the kids when she got settled. Well, we know that story. Mark Hall said that if this tour goes well, it could be the first of many. So it's the same story. Trace promised six months. But what happens when the fast lane catches them and more tour offers with a lot of money and more music opportunities. What happens then?

Originally Posted by The Apt (View Post) How do we not get a season 3 with record breaking ratings?!?!?! Chesapeake Shores: Season Two Finale Ends on a High Note in the Ratings

this is what pisses me off. the story is great, the ratings are great, but yet we are sitting on pins and needles waiting to see if we're gonna get a season 3.

what scares me is that it'll turn out like the end of Rookie Blue was. We waited, waited and waited some more to find out we weren't getting a season 7. Like we just got blown off and didn't matter. The ratings were great on there too. I know ABC is a bigger network and things are different with bigger networks versus smaller networks like Hallmark.

I just don't want to say goodbye to this amazing series.

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Originally Posted by Patricia up to where I've read, no. However he played a more vindictive role in the books when Abby moved back to Chesapeake Shores. It was still the same story with Wes' girlfriend Gabrielle doing a dirty deal. But Trace poses more of a threat, I think, for Abby considering his career path being a lot more stable in the books. I don't want to give it away, but towards the end of the book, Wes isn't so much of a threat. I think that's why we've barely seen him in the second season.

That makes sense. Where did you purchase the books, by the way?

If their relationship can survive this, then yeah, I think a marriage proposal would be a definite next step. I feel like when they would say "i miss you" it was a premature "i love you" but their relationship, their grownup relationship wasn't there yet.

Yes, I have a feeling if we get a season 3 a marriage proposal will happen fairly quickly. The writer's also won't waste their time on Trace being gone on Tour either so hopefully the Tour thing concludes by the time we hit the premiere of 3 and then marriage proposal happens after that, even mid-season 3.

Not take the family plane. You know Mick is quite the traveler lol But she could take time off work a few days for a long weekend here and there to visit Trace. It's totally possible. Not everything has to be one sided and both suffer in the relationship.

The girls could stay with family while she goes to visit him. She does have the money and the means, not to mention family to help out.

It'll be a definite test in their relationship, but it's one they can survive. I mean they survived Abby leaving and coming back 17 years later. They survived she getting married and getting divorced and having two kids in between and figuring out how they can come together and have it make sense for everyone. They can whether six months

Six months should be nothing. Just hope Douglas stays away. I think the reason for this storyline is to show that they survived NYC and they will survive the Tour too.

I'm thinking John isn't being so honest in what happened that night of the accident. Was he as paralyzed as he put to Trace. Now it looks like the accident never happened. I thought, even if John is walking, that the accident would be a bigger issue. In the first season, John was in and out of surgery just to stay alive. Now he's live and kicking with a family? I know sometimes it's bad writing. I just don't see John as a good guy. The way he's acting now...he's far from innocent. I think John went to bat for Trace with that warrant was because Trace wasn't completely at fault. No one talks about what happened that night. All they mention is everyone was tired and Trace shouldn't have gotten behind the wheel. Was Trace drinking? Was John able to drive but had been drinking. I just don't trust that John is telling the truth about that night. I don't think Trace remembers all that much or just isn't saying anything either. Was Leigh with them that night? Maybe she can clear things up? I see her being the mediator between John and Trace, oddly enough. I don't hate Leigh, I just don't like what she brings to the table.

I really hope this isn't bad writing and we will revisit the accident and what John is hiding. He has to be hiding something. Good point about Leigh being the mediator. She really does seem to own that role. Wouldn't it be something if we find out he was never severely neurologically impaired after all? He could have gone there to get insurance money and he knew it was wrong which is why he went to bat for Trace as a way to almost make it a right. We know money is a motivating factor with the band for him too. I hope they revisit all of this.

If we do get a season 3, I want there to be a conversation about (either current or flashbacks) of Mick talking to Abby about the night and days after that Megan left. I know Trace is saying six months, but Megan said she would send for the kids when she got settled. Well, we know that story. Mark Hall said that if this tour goes well, it could be the first of many. So it's the same story. Trace promised six months. But what happens when the fast lane catches them and more tour offers with a lot of money and more music opportunities. What happens then?

Exactly. I believe the first Tour will blow up somehow. Maybe John's shadiness is a clue that it will happen. I just don't see this Tour lasting that long. The players involved (John is shady, Leigh wants in Trace's pants) just aren't stable enough and Trace ideally wants to be with Abby and have the Club. It will blow up.

this is what pisses me off. the story is great, the ratings are great, but yet we are sitting on pins and needles waiting to see if we're gonna get a season 3. what scares me is that it'll turn out like the end of Rookie Blue was. We waited, waited and waited some more to find out we weren't getting a season 7. Like we just got blown off and didn't matter. The ratings were great on there too. I know ABC is a bigger network and things are different with bigger networks versus smaller networks like Hallmark. I just don't want to say goodbye to this amazing series.

I don't either. It should be a no brainer it's immediately renewed. I have no idea what the network is waiting for. I don't know much about this network but if I remember the discussion on here a while back... historically the network gets rid of their series fairly quickly. However, Chesapeake Shores should be the exception. This series is breaking all kinds of records, it's a huge hit. All I know is if the network stupidly doesn't renew then maybe Netflex will grab it, dump seasons 1 and 2 for viewers to catch up and then take over and air season 3. It would be fantastic actually.

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Originally Posted by Michelle (View Post) That makes sense. Where did you purchase the books, by the way?

The first three I got from Barnes and Noble in New Jersey (on vacation). I've gotten a couple other ones from a local second hand book store. I'm slowly building my collection

Originally Posted by Michelle (View Post) Yes, I have a feeling if we get a season 3 a marriage proposal will happen fairly quickly. The writer's also won't waste their time on Trace being gone on Tour either so hopefully the Tour thing concludes by the time we hit the premiere of 3 and then marriage proposal happens after that, even mid-season 3.

I sure do hope so When Abby returned to Chesapeake Shores and saw Trace for the first time, he made a point that they were engaged before she left. So with him returning home after being gone away for months and they do get back together, I don't think Trace would wait another second to ask her. He might even propose before having the ring. But something tells me he's gonna make sure it's done right this time around

Originally Posted by Michelle (View Post) The girls could stay with family while she goes to visit him. She does have the money and the means, not to mention family to help out.

I don't think Abby realizes how free she is to be with Trace. Meaning she has built in baby sitters with the family at home. Her girls have adapted to Trace very well, of course Trace is just mommy's friend. I know Abby has everyone's best interests at heart, but I think she's over thinking things sometimes.

Originally Posted by Michelle (View Post) Six months should be nothing. Just hope Douglas stays away. I think the reason for this storyline is to show that they survived NYC and they will survive the Tour too.

I get that Douglas is a good guy, I don't see him hurting Abby, at least not intentionally. But I do feel he may have an attraction to Abby, but her talking about her boyfriend Trace, has put him on the sidelines. I just hope that Douglas doesn't go into this whole 'i can provide for you', which he can. But it's gonna come down to who Abby really loves. I just don't see Douglas coming out as the good guy in the end, tbh.

Originally Posted by Michelle (View Post) I really hope this isn't bad writing and we will revisit the accident and what John is hiding. He has to be hiding something. Good point about Leigh being the mediator. She really does seem to own that role. Wouldn't it be something if we find out he was never severely neurologically impaired after all? He could have gone there to get insurance money and he knew it was wrong which is why he went to bat for Trace as a way to almost make it a right. We know money is a motivating factor with the band for him too. I hope they revisit all of this.

He certainly does know when the lay the guilt on thick. If John is after the money and everything a tour has to offer, why not join another band that has a tour of their own instead of being an opening act? Is he doing this to just punish Trace. If he's so unhappy with how things are going and not making any money with a family to support, what is keeping him there?

Originally Posted by Michelle (View Post) Exactly. I believe the first Tour will blow up somehow. Maybe John's shadiness is a clue that it will happen. I just don't see this Tour lasting that long. The players involved (John is shady, Leigh wants in Trace's pants) just aren't stable enough and Trace ideally wants to be with Abby and have the Club. It will blow up.

It might start out great, but it'll fizzle quickly. Trace has said a million times, he didn't want to go back to that life. Trace is just doing all of this for the money, I think. He wanted to pay back Mick for the investment. He wants to prove to Abby that he can provide her a life she so deserves...along with Carrie and Caitlin. I think the touring will revolve around to be what it was the first time around. Too fast and not enough sleep. Does Trace really think it's going to be different this time around? He is allowing Mark to make decisions while he's touring. I don't think Mark would take the money and run. But I do think Mark would make decisions that would take Trace into a different route and maybe not sending him home for a while.

Originally Posted by Michelle (View Post) I don't either. It should be a no brainer it's immediately renewed. I have no idea what the network is waiting for. I don't know much about this network but if I remember the discussion on here a while back... historically the network gets rid of their series fairly quickly. However, Chesapeake Shores should be the exception. This series is breaking all kinds of records, it's a huge hit. All I know is if the network stupidly doesn't renew then maybe Netflix will grab it, dump seasons 1 and 2 for viewers to catch up and then take over and air season 3. It would be fantastic actually.

I don't think Hallmark has a great grasp of what it takes to run a great tv series. How long did Cedar Cove last and they apparently changed just about every character/actor from the first season to the next.

Remember when they were putting The Good Wife on, three times a day. Then yanked it off immediately deeming it was too much because of Kalinda's story line. They promoted it for months that it was coming then not even a word that it was getting pulled out. That's what worries me. They don't know how to handle television shows. They're great with TV movies and mini series, but not so confident about full tv series.