[secretk]

Originally Posted by The Apt (View Post) That's good.

Really the show is constructed in a way where you know that they will be the OTP. Even their best friends (for the male and the female) dig this couple and ship them .

If the fans know what to expect that is important. Too often they don't have a clue so it's good that the writers are making it fairly clear.

Oh yeah. Even if the fans dislike the couple, they know that this is the show's OTP so they are prepared.

Well, I love the series so I don't think that'll change. I might watch this time around seeing it more from Max's point of view. I was harsh on him the first time around (I wasn't seeing him as a King so much if that makes sense) and I think that will help understand his character much more.

Yeah this is what I meant . It's not like you dislike the show and now you are trying to see if this would change. It would be more about small details and nuances of the show.

[jediwands]

Originally Posted by secretk (View Post) Really the show is constructed in a way where you know that they will be the OTP. Even their best friends (for the male and the female) dig this couple and ship them .

That's great.

Oh yeah. Even if the fans dislike the couple, they know that this is the show's OTP so they are prepared.

Very refreshing.

Yeah this is what I meant . It's not like you dislike the show and now you are trying to see if this would change. It would be more about small details and nuances of the show.

Exactly.

[secretk]

Originally Posted by The Apt (View Post) That's great.

The actors also ship this couple. Either they really like it or they claim so for publicity. In both cases I would say that overall they are going for this couple. Yesterday there was post in their Instragram account asking fans if they want this couple in Season 3. That's the way they promote shows currently using social media.

Very refreshing.

If only they learn to handle this properly because he is jealous of her relationship with her best friend. And yes she does not like her best friend, but he likes her so I guess in the end I understand both. Or say the three of them. They all have to work on this and find a way to interact with each other in a healthy way.

Exactly.

Did you watch more episodes yesterday?

[stlavin95]

Originally Posted by The Apt (View Post) Way back in the 70s but was active from then 70s until the present. Definitely a classic American musician that was too good to ever go away. In college for some reason everyone was listening to his earlier stuff along with a couple other bands as well like the Steve Miller Band. We acted like we were living in the 70s/80s for some reason and I still don't understand why.

Okay

[jediwands]

Originally Posted by stlavin95 (View Post) Okay

I remember wondering why so many were listening to really old music... classic rock basically. I wondered and then just went with it since I liked the bands people were listening to, lol.

[jediwands]

Originally Posted by secretk (View Post) The actors also ship this couple. Either they really like it or they claim so for publicity. In both cases I would say that overall they are going for this couple. Yesterday there was post in their Instragram account asking fans if they want this couple in Season 3. That's the way they promote shows currently using social media. If only they learn to handle this properly because he is jealous of her relationship with her best friend. And yes she does not like her best friend, but he likes her so I guess in the end I understand both. Or say the three of them. They all have to work on this and find a way to interact with each other in a healthy way. Did you watch more episodes yesterday?

That's really cool the actors are so involved. Very neat they find a way to keep the fans involved as well.

Do you think the best friend and romantic interest will end up being friends? Has the girl told the best friend she doesn't feel anything romantic for him and never will (well, in a soft way lol) or have they not discussed yet?

I didn't watch anymore. So busy with work, the dentist then calling around for specialists, Buddy stuff. This weekend I hope to watch more.

[secretk]

Originally Posted by The Apt (View Post) That's really cool the actors are so involved. Very neat they find a way to keep the fans involved as well.

Yeah . With social media actors could be involved quite a lot more and also interact with the fans.

Do you think the best friend and romantic interest will end up being friends?

Yes. In fact that might be part of the Season 3 storylines. Well if you ask me because I am not sure what the writers would do . Back to the point. The actor that plays Matteo's best friend would not be in the third season a lot because he is now in a music band with his roommate (remember the two guys I talked about). So I think that they might use this opportunity to bring Simon and Matteo closer. I also think that in the end this would help Luna/Matteo because Matteo is pretty jealous of Simon. On the other hand I think that they will pair Simon with Ambar (Matteo's ex girlfriend). This way Simon will forget Luna and will have other partner and Matteo would not be jealous. That's just my speculation, but this is how I think that they would resolve this drama. Simon and Luna are too much of friends and I don't think that they will separate them ever. So the only option is for Simon to have someone else and realize that he and Luna are not to be together. And the easiest way to do this is for him to find someone else.

Has the girl told the best friend she doesn't feel anything romantic for him and never will (well, in a soft way lol) or have they not discussed yet?

They had short relationship in the first season and they broke up because Simon realized that Luna does not see him as romantic interest. At that time she clearly cared about Matteo in the romantic sense. Meaning she did not just care about him being well (as friend), she was jealous of him and Ambar. She would not admit that Simon and her are together in the open, she would just call him her friend. Luna talks with Simon about Matteo and has discussed her feelings about Matteo with Simon. Last she told Simon that she still has feelings for Matteo, but they are just too different to make it work. So yeah I would say that Simon knows what Luna feels for him and what for Matteo.

That being said there is still reason for fans to think that the love triangle is not over and it's the final scene of the season:



There are few ways to interpret Luna's words to Simon - in the end it's just you and me. If you think about it, it could be in romantic way. I mean let's be honest. Most people would see this in romantic way. On the other hand they still kept the intrigue because her ring lighted on and just few hours ago Matteo had told her that it would light whenever he thinks about her. So the assumption is that she thought of Matteo when she saw the ring. That's why for the fans the triangle is still alive. However like I said they do not promote the show asking "Luna with Simon or Matteo", but just asking question "Would Luna and Matteo be together".

Still though I honestly see why fans would like Luna with her best friend. I think that the story itself is great and in a lot of movies or series they will be the OTP. I am actually surprised that still most fans prefer her with the other guy.

I didn't watch anymore. So busy with work, the dentist then calling around for specialists, Buddy stuff. This weekend I hope to watch more.

Makes sense .

[jediwands]

Originally Posted by secretk (View Post) Yeah . With social media actors could be involved quite a lot more and also interact with the fans.

It seems like it works perfectly for this show.

Yes. In fact that might be part of the Season 3 storylines. Well if you ask me because I am not sure what the writers would do . Back to the point. The actor that plays Matteo's best friend would not be in the third season a lot because he is now in a music band with his roommate (remember the two guys I talked about). So I think that they might use this opportunity to bring Simon and Matteo closer. I also think that in the end this would help Luna/Matteo because Matteo is pretty jealous of Simon. On the other hand I think that they will pair Simon with Ambar (Matteo's ex girlfriend). This way Simon will forget Luna and will have other partner and Matteo would not be jealous. That's just my speculation, but this is how I think that they would resolve this drama. Simon and Luna are too much of friends and I don't think that they will separate them ever. So the only option is for Simon to have someone else and realize that he and Luna are not to be together. And the easiest way to do this is for him to find someone else. They had short relationship in the first season and they broke up because Simon realized that Luna does not see him as romantic interest. At that time she clearly cared about Matteo in the romantic sense. Meaning she did not just care about him being well (as friend), she was jealous of him and Ambar. She would not admit that Simon and her are together in the open, she would just call him her friend. Luna talks with Simon about Matteo and has discussed her feelings about Matteo with Simon. Last she told Simon that she still has feelings for Matteo, but they are just too different to make it work. So yeah I would say that Simon knows what Luna feels for him and what for Matteo. That being said there is still reason for fans to think that the love triangle is not over and it's the final scene of the season: There are few ways to interpret Luna's words to Simon - in the end it's just you and me. If you think about it, it could be in romantic way. I mean let's be honest. Most people would see this in romantic way. On the other hand they still kept the intrigue because her ring lighted on and just few hours ago Matteo had told her that it would light whenever he thinks about her. So the assumption is that she thought of Matteo when she saw the ring. That's why for the fans the triangle is still alive. However like I said they do not promote the show asking "Luna with Simon or Matteo", but just asking question "Would Luna and Matteo be together". Still though I honestly see why fans would like Luna with her best friend. I think that the story itself is great and in a lot of movies or series they will be the OTP. I am actually surprised that still most fans prefer her with the other guy. Makes sense .

Interesting. Yes, I can definitely see why some feel like the triangle is not over based on that scene alone. Where do they film? That ocean/beach scene is just beautiful.

[secretk]

Originally Posted by The Apt (View Post) It seems like it works perfectly for this show.

It's Disney show and most of the fans are kids or teens. The actors interact with them quite a lot.

Interesting. Yes, I can definitely see why some feel like the triangle is not over based on that scene alone.

Simon and Luna have great history actually. Luna had to move to Argentina because of her parents' work. Simon was supposed to remain in Cancun in the beginning. Soon however he left his work and moved to Argentina so that he could be close to Luna. Not a lot of people would do this. I would say that the show has great boy/girl friendship. True they did the cliche route in a way by having Simon being in love with her, but still they managed to survive their break-up and move on. I would say they really did great there.

I actually think that you would prefer them over the actual OTP of the show. I just think that you would not like the male protagonist at all .

Where do they film? That ocean/beach scene is just beautiful.

In general it's filmed in Buenos Aires (Argentina). However the idea is that Luna and Simon used to live in Cancun (Mexico). And this is where the show starts actually and Matteo and Luna meet in Cancun. In the Season 2 finale there was skating competition in Cancun and those beaches are in Cancun.

As far as I know Cancun is actually quite popular touristic destination in Mexico.

[jediwands]

Originally Posted by secretk (View Post) It's Disney show and most of the fans are kids or teens. The actors interact with them quite a lot.

That's nice.

Simon and Luna have great history actually. Luna had to move to Argentina because of her parents' work. Simon was supposed to remain in Cancun in the beginning. Soon however he left his work and moved to Argentina so that he could be close to Luna. Not a lot of people would do this. I would say that the show has great boy/girl friendship. True they did the cliche route in a way by having Simon being in love with her, but still they managed to survive their break-up and move on. I would say they really did great there. I actually think that you would prefer them over the actual OTP of the show. I just think that you would not like the male protagonist at all .

It's very possible. Especially when you use the word jealousy too. I hate jealousy.

I also feel a ton of chemistry in the Simon/Luna scenes.

In general it's filmed in Buenos Aires (Argentina). However the idea is that Luna and Simon used to live in Cancun (Mexico). And this is where the show starts actually and Matteo and Luna meet in Cancun. In the Season 2 finale there was skating competition in Cancun and those beaches are in Cancun. As far as I know Cancun is actually quite popular touristic destination in Mexico.

Cancun is an enormous tourist destination in Mexico. Americans go there all the time. It's one of the reasons why Americans stay in North America when vacationing and don't go to Europe and other areas, lol. Everyone is in Cancun. South America has some gorgeous areas and so does Mexico.

[secretk]

Originally Posted by The Apt (View Post) It's very possible. Especially when you use the word jealousy too. I hate jealousy.

He is not jealous in extreme ways per se. He is only jealous of her best friend because in general she chooses her best friend over him. Luna however is jealous and it is a lot for me. Like for example a female fan gave him T-shirt for a present and she was jealous and I did not see the point because it was not his fault.

What I think that you would dislike is the fact that Matteo is cocky and sometimes might be even arrogant for you. You definitely do not like that. To be honest I would not like it if it was not for the actor. The funny thing is that everyone liked the actor in the previous Disney show I watched and I was like "What do they see in him" . It's not that I disliked him, I just never saw the huge fanbase for him because he was main character in that show. But then somehow I loved him in this new show. It also helps that Luna is the one that saw through his facade - basically the cockiness is charade for him to protect himself because he changes places quite often due to his father being diplomat.

I also feel a ton of chemistry in the Simon/Luna scenes.

They have good chemistry for me, but only as friends. Interesting if you see this comparison what do you prefer? The first duet or the second?



For me I think factor is that I do not like how the actor that plays Simon sings. I do not enjoy his voice. He is in tune for sure, but his voice is not that interesting for me. Most probably that does play a role because Simon is supposed to be a singer in the show and is in a band and I just don't get the appeal.

What I like about Matteo and Luna is that they could joke with each other quite easy:



They have this easy banter that yes sometimes goes bad, but in most cases it's like that. They also banter for something .

Cancun is an enormous tourist destination in Mexico. Americans go there all the time. It's one of the reasons why Americans stay in North America when vacationing and don't go to Europe and other areas, lol. Everyone is in Cancun. South America has some gorgeous areas and so does Mexico.

This is what I assumed as well . It really is a beautiful place. Have you wanted to go there?

[everwoodfan52]

Originally Posted by The Apt (View Post) Way back in the 70s but was active from then 70s until the present. Definitely a classic American musician that was too good to ever go away. In college for some reason everyone was listening to his earlier stuff along with a couple other bands as well like the Steve Miller Band. We acted like we were living in the 70s/80s for some reason and I still don't understand why.

THat's because you guys had good taste! He was also a part of a group called Traveling Wilburys from 1988-1990 which included George Harrison and Roy Orbison and Bob Dylan. Not shabby company! Love this song!

[jediwands]

Originally Posted by everwoodfan52 (View Post) THat's because you guys had good taste! He was also a part of a group called Traveling Wilburys from 1988-1990 which included George Harrison and Roy Orbison and Bob Dylan. Not shabby company! Love this song!

I have this record/album. Love it! My mom adored this too. This is one of my favorite songs of all time. It's just fabulous.

[everwoodfan52]

Originally Posted by The Apt (View Post) I have this record/album. Love it! My mom adored this too. This is one of my favorite songs of all time. It's just fabulous.

Both you and your mom have great taste!

[jediwands]

Originally Posted by secretk (View Post) He is not jealous in extreme ways per se. He is only jealous of her best friend because in general she chooses her best friend over him. Luna however is jealous and it is a lot for me. Like for example a female fan gave him T-shirt for a present and she was jealous and I did not see the point because it was not his fault. What I think that you would dislike is the fact that Matteo is cocky and sometimes might be even arrogant for you. You definitely do not like that. To be honest I would not like it if it was not for the actor. The funny thing is that everyone liked the actor in the previous Disney show I watched and I was like "What do they see in him" . It's not that I disliked him, I just never saw the huge fanbase for him because he was main character in that show. But then somehow I loved him in this new show. It also helps that Luna is the one that saw through his facade - basically the cockiness is charade for him to protect himself because he changes places quite often due to his father being diplomat.

You are right... I don't do cocky.

I'd have to watch the character, evolution, to really judge how I'd feel.

They have good chemistry for me, but only as friends. Interesting if you see this comparison what do you prefer? The first duet or the second?

I think both are good. I can't really pick one over the other. I see chemistry in both duets. I see the jealousy though from the one dude when the best friends are singing/dancing, lol.

For me I think factor is that I do not like how the actor that plays Simon sings. I do not enjoy his voice. He is in tune for sure, but his voice is not that interesting for me. Most probably that does play a role because Simon is supposed to be a singer in the show and is in a band and I just don't get the appeal. What I like about Matteo and Luna is that they could joke with each other quite easy: They have this easy banter that yes sometimes goes bad, but in most cases it's like that. They also banter for something .

Should be interesting to see how it all turns out.

This is what I assumed as well . It really is a beautiful place. Have you wanted to go there?

I've been to San Diego and I love that city. Of course that's still a ways away from Cancun but yes, I would like to go to Cancun sometime. We were going to go there one trip but ended up in LA instead. Definitely want to go there in the future.