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Jerry D 03-13-2019 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Wilpen (Post 96789752)
Absolutely.

But yes, Dawson/Gretchen was the definition of contrived. You knew from the moment they got together they were never lasting and it was only for Dawson to have someone to talk to while we endured painfully unhealthy PJ scenes (and for Joey's jealousy to come out).
Plus, Gretchen was someone who would still tie Dawson to Pacey (and Joey) since she was Pacey's sister.

jediwands 03-13-2019 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Jerry D (Post 96790150)
Plus, Gretchen was someone who would still tie Dawson to Pacey (and Joey) since she was Pacey's sister.
Exactly.

Pacey was certainly not my favorite in season 4. One of the biggest reasons is how he reacted to Dawson and Gretchen. How incredibly hypocritical of him to get mad and throw a fit. He had zero right reacting at all given what he did to Dawson at the end of season 3.

Forwood4Bamon 03-15-2019 06:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Wilpen (Post 96789591)
:lol: Right.

I never understood why Pacey didn't break up with her during this time period when it was more than obvious she wasn't over Dawson.
I know. Because he kept giving.

jediwands 03-15-2019 08:14 AM
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Originally Posted by pandiexjeyton (Post 96810636)
I know. Because he kept giving.
It was absolutely ridiculous. Pacey screwed himself in three ways:

1. He lost his friendship with Dawson. Let's be honest... his friendship with Dawson was never the same after what he pulled at the end of season 3.
2. He had to endure knowing Joey's heart was always with Dawson.
3. He lost the true love of his life in Andie, all because of his horrible behavior and mistakes.

The ultimate was actually having to end up with Joey too.

Pacey was basically sentenced to life in prison. Seriously.

Forwood4Bamon 03-16-2019 07:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Wilpen (Post 96811279)
It was absolutely ridiculous. Pacey screwed himself in three ways:

1. He lost his friendship with Dawson. Let's be honest... his friendship with Dawson was never the same after what he pulled at the end of season 3.
2. He had to endure knowing Joey's heart was always with Dawson.
3. He lost the true love of his life in Andie, all because of his horrible behavior and mistakes.

The ultimate was actually having to end up with Joey too.

Pacey was basically sentenced to life in prison. Seriously.
yes joeys heart does not belong to pacey, but the things that she would say to him..

jediwands 03-16-2019 07:37 AM
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Originally Posted by pandiexjeyton (Post 96820412)
yes joeys heart does not belong to pacey, but the things that she would say to him..
PJ were so unhealthy in season 4. Season 6, same thing, they were unhealthy. Along with Jen, Pacey received the worst ending.

Forwood4Bamon 03-16-2019 07:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Wilpen (Post 96820618)
PJ were so unhealthy in season 4. Season 6, same thing, they were unhealthy. Along with Jen, Pacey received the worst ending.
Being with you doesn't feel right. :rolleyes:

jediwands 03-16-2019 08:06 AM
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Originally Posted by pandiexjeyton (Post 96820626)
Being with you doesn't feel right. :rolleyes:
:facepalm:

TL22 03-16-2019 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Wilpen (Post 96778711)
Joey was miserable in season 4, lol.
The look on Joey's face when she saw Dawson and Gretchen kissing says this to me; Hey, I'm allowed to get naked with Pacey, but how dare you kiss another girl.

Pacey seeing Joey's expression should have turned around and left. He would have realized exactly who Joey was into.

TL22 03-16-2019 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Wilpen (Post 96811279)
It was absolutely ridiculous. Pacey screwed himself in three ways:

1. He lost his friendship with Dawson. Let's be honest... his friendship with Dawson was never the same after what he pulled at the end of season 3.
2. He had to endure knowing Joey's heart was always with Dawson.
3. He lost the true love of his life in Andie, all because of his horrible behavior and mistakes.

The ultimate was actually having to end up with Joey too.

Pacey was basically sentenced to life in prison. Seriously.

Great take on it . I love it.

jediwands 03-16-2019 10:34 PM
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Originally Posted by TL22 (Post 96824325)
The look on Joey's face when she saw Dawson and Gretchen kissing says this to me; Hey, I'm allowed to get naked with Pacey, but how dare you kiss another girl.
Right?! She was such a hypocrite. How dare she try to make it seem like Dawson was doing something wrong given what she pulled. I wish Dawson would have gotten mad about it. He should have told her she had no right throwing a fit.

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Pacey seeing Joey's expression should have turned around and left. He would have realized exactly who Joey was into.
Exactly. He looked so stupid putting up with that. She couldn’t have made it more obvious. He knew it and still stayed with her until he finally blew up. Incredible.

jediwands 03-16-2019 10:35 PM
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Originally Posted by TL22 (Post 96824423)
Great take on it . I love it.
Thanks!

Forwood4Bamon 03-19-2019 06:32 AM
paceys such a hypocrite too though..

jediwands 03-19-2019 07:47 AM
He was, indeed.

Both Pacey and Joey were.

What moments do you think really demonstrated Pacey being a hypocrite?

TL22 03-19-2019 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Wilpen (Post 96849721)
He was, indeed.

Both Pacey and Joey were.

What moments do you think really demonstrated Pacey being a hypocrite?
The one moment that jumps out is taking Andie to the prom.

"It would be an honour to take you" Then he S@@@ all over Andie.


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