jediwands

Thanks!

I have not. But since I agree with your thoughts that Betty quoted and brought over, I am not sure right now if it is worth my time go there... being a Hilarie/Peyton/Peyton and Lucas fan sounds dangerous concerning this podcast which is interesting because Brooke and Lucas were never a true romantic pairing of the series. Try toxic, sex mostly without an ounce of emotional connection and their second time around was ridiculous and only due to Chad and Sophia and their two second marriage...

The thought of Lucas and Peyton being rushed is laughable. Just the opposite. The Pilot AND their wedding vows alone confirms there was a solid foundation from the start, even BEFORE we witnessed The Pilot, during the wedding vows Haley tells us about Lucas and his eternal love for Peyton Sawyer which never, ever, wavered. Lucas and Peyton are the Ephram and Amy of OTH. If they are not being remotely honored in the podcast, I am not sure I want to listen in.

everwoodfan52

Moved the OTH discussion over here.....

jediwands

^ Thanks so much for doing this, Betty!

everwoodfan52

You are welcome!! This way other OTH fans can join the discussion.

stlavin95

Been good so far

stlavin95

I am, but I can't say I'm a fan of how the girls have handled certain things (especially when it comes to the love triangle in S1 and Naley)

jediwands

jediwands

What are they saying (you aren’t a fan of), Sam?

Alexa

Jerry:

Thank you Jerry! I adore the oth cast but i wont simply just agree with everything they say just because I am a fan of them. I like hearing their insight on the episodes but I do feel like its frustrating for fans of the show to hear them bashign so much about it. Yes, we dont have to like the things the writers/producers did behind the senes, but the show itself we all love for a reason so its kinda crappy when you hear them bashing certain things.

I get the hate for lucas, believe me, but was a big fan of season 1 lucas so it was hard to see them being so critical of him personally.



To Michelle:

Well you wouldn't get aggravated to that level I dont think, its still enjoyable to listen to, just a few things I noticed about it as an LP/Peyton fan were kinda sucky. I always thought Hilarie was a big LP fan with the things hse would say years ago, but on this pocast shes really only said negative things about them... which sucks.


Which is exactly why they even went back to BL imo, because of Chad and Sophia. It was just the easy thing to do. But maybe well get more insight when the podcast catches up to that point.

LP being more rushed than Naley, please. They were equally as rushed imo. Which really wasnt at all compared to other TV shows. like remember stefan and elena kissing in episode 2 lmao.




Sam

Agree. I wish they would try harder to understand Lucas' motivations. To me it was very obvious that Lucas was using Brooke and really loved Peyton. So they could ahve called out him for that for sure, but to dismiss LP and treat BL/LP equally as "victims" of Lucas and his two timinig ways was so silly.

And then Hilaries blaming Lucas for kissing her in the hall but like, Peyton kissed him back. Just an example imo of them being a bit hypocritical though because they are putting all the blame on lucas in that scenario.

Another complain, they bring a guest star in and all they talk about si them and their life and kinda ignore the episode. I hate when they bring the guests in lmao.

Alexa

Everwoodlover

You know nothing about me. Or my political views. But if you did you would know i am certainly not a republican.

One does not equal the other????

Its not news that actors and athletes etc get way over paid. I know many people who would do their jobs for FREE. Its ridiculous the amount of money they get paid for their jobs. I for one, think jobs like TEACHERS etc deserve to be paid more. And its not being a republican or a conservative to call that out or to not be okay with that???? It doesnt even have anything to do with what i was saying.

Its like when a youtuber complains that their video wouldnt upload and all the stress they had over it... its ridiculous. You cant liken that to someone that has real problems??? Im not saying someone cant complain, they can but they should do it at the right place and time with the right people, not publicly on a podcast for everyone to hear. When they talk about how the fans are so annoying and come up to them to ask for autographs when they are just tired and want to go home etc, its a bit cringey. It kinda comes with the territory of being an actor? Im not saying they should be bombarded or treated horrible or expected to be taking photos 24/7, but i just dont think that complaining about the fans on the podcast that the fans are listening to is cool. I dont think complaining about work conditions and romantic scenes makes a lot of sense when so many people would die to be in their position and have what they have.

I am not working full time right now, but I work really late nights as a dance teacher and I wnat to complain constantly about how frustrating it is to get home at 11pm at night and still ahve to do all these thigns when i get home. I want to complain about how much work it actually is that i dont get credit for because when im not at work im listening to music for my classes, editing music, choreographing, finding costumes, organizing schedulesl etce etc but i wouldnt complain about that to someone to like my sister who is a teacher who has to work all day and then go home and make dinner and do landry and watch the kids, then plan lessons because that would be ridiculous. Is not that i dont have a right to be frustratied but you should understand who your audiece is when you complain about stuff like that. Or its liek when non parents complain about having no free time to parents lol. It just comes off a bit entitled.


From the last thread:


i dont remember them talking about Hilarieb being great in that scene. Maybe they praised Peyton a bit there or said they loved that scene, but it was very rare for them to bring up Hilarie's moments. They just joked about how she cried a lot... (okay they did say she was a beautiful cryer so I will give them that). also that was episode 5 and very early on in the podcast.

And I said they loved Nathan btw, which i found hypocritical. Cuz he was such a jerk multiple times. Especially during the episode where he had porn on his computer adn they really didnt say much about it atlal, where as if it were lucas they would have reemed him.

Dont agree with that at all because these actors come in and learn their lines, deliver them on the day and then immediately forget. They dont even watch the episode back after its done! We've heard the girls admitting on this podcast how much they dont remember! How can you fully understand your character if you dont even know the details of their story? They might understand the mannerisms and behaviors of their character bcasue they are them,but they dont know the reason for a lot of their actions throughout...

For xample they say how much of a "little girl" brooke was, that she was masking her sadness in her sexuality etc. but liek, no... in season 1 she was just this funny sexual girl. Like, that was her entire character. She wasn't supposed to be secretly a virgin or anything silly like that. Seh genuinely was a bit of bitch. Seh genuinely was very sexual and liked attention from boys and was a bit manipulative ETC. Im not saying that was the only facet of her personality but that was as big part of who she was in seaoson 1 and THEN we saw her grow and mature. but they try to rewrite the script here on here. Im not okay with that.

He didnt even like Brooke in season 1. Not really. He was using her. So ther were no lingering feelings from that time at all??? Like , he liked Peyton. And he admitted this in episode 15. With Brooke it was just about having fun... So yes, his feelings in season 2 were completely out of nowhere. We hadnt even seen them interact! I would ahve said the same thing if he had shwed up at Peyton's door! He literallly spent one night with her at the prom and that was it and then suddenly he liked her again????? And his speech about having feelings for this girl that he's been hiding his feelings for was so ridiculous. Now if he had said, 'when i hung out with her I felt that spark again', that would have made way more sense lmao.

I dont know who courtney is but that i one insane story out of how many. I dont know how to find the statistics of teenagers getting marreid but i thin its pretty damn low lol. And its a terrible message to send to teenagers.

Like i said before, its fine to complain about things to your friends, obvious there are bad poiints to being actors. but I think it comes off a little entitled to complain about the attention they get and the brutal job when so many people in the world have horrible jobs so much worse than being an actor. and the amount of mney they get for their job is ridiculous. I will never be able to sympathize with actors for that, and its a profession they choose to do??? Sorry. again, not saying they dont have a right o hate certain things but i don tthink their podcast for oth viewing is the place to talk about that...


You might want to watch yor comments because this is borderlining on being hateful towards a member. I dont appreciate being called asanine simply because we dont agree. Please dont call me crazy or that my opions are not based in reality, that is uncalled for.

Jerry D

Pointing out someone's spelling errors puts things on a personal level that I don't want to see here at Fan Forum. I suggest that this discussion gets tabled for now, and I think that this podcast has been discussed enough for the moment, so I suggest that everyone goes back to discussing One Tree Hill and leave the personal back and forth comments off this thread and off this board.

One way that the Everwood board has stood out over the years is the harmonious atmosphere on this board, and I want to keep it that way.

End of discussion.

Jerry D

I could understand what Alexa was saying just fine. I don't care if she had spelling errors. It happens. At any rate, I want this discussion to end. If you want to say anything else to me, feel free to send me a Private Message.

Jerry D

I rarely post in this thread because I only watched one season of the show but in Season Five, (the season that I watched) I did find Brooke to be a nice person, but many people pointed out to me that she was very different in the earlier seasons.

Alexa

Jerry I love Brooke in the later seasons but in the beginning, she was hard to stomach at times.

Some general comments:
I didnt say bringing in guests was hypocritial. That's just a separate complain I have. i dont mind the guests but I wish they would talk more about the episodes. I def. wouldnt find it boring but I guess different strokes. I assumed thats what the podcast was... and again, I dont mind if they talk about other things too sometimes but some episodes were way off track. They did a decent job in some episodes writing talking points. I like when they do that.

I never said Hilarie hates LP, but she does rag on them a lot. The cheating thing is a separate issue. You can still like/support LP without liking the cheating, like me. But the way she laughs them off to be rushed along with the other girls and doesnt seem to see the connection the show was very clearly portraying. But we will see what she says in the later seasons about them.
(in comparison they rave and rave about J/P yet didn't find them rushed, which they also were imo)

The show is much different week to week rather than binging. They are going slow though so it surprises me to hear some of the comments. But i think their opinons and the small things they know are mixed in and it makes viewing it for the "first time" a bit muddied.

I just want to make it clear i love the OTH girls a lot. I just dont agree with all their viewpoints. I simply have frustrations with the podcast and thats it. I still liek it and will continue to listen to it. But its not perfect, and no, just because i am a fan of the ladies doesnt mean they can do no wrong ever or that all their opinions are 100% valid.

Also can i just say I am a very fast typer and thats why there are spelling mistakes. My fingers go faster than my brain sometimes lmao


Im not trying to argue, but surely wondering, is calling someone asanine, saying their comments are not based in reality, saying their opinions are wrong, calling someone toxic, calling someone creepy... is that allowed on the board???

Alexa

Jerry I literally just saw your post. I will take out any personal comments and send to PM.