Emilia Clarke - Ice & Fire (Jon ♥ Daenerys) #18: Because both have a good and gentle heart.

Heda_Khaleesi · 04-10-2017, 02:42 AM

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**Movies** · 04-10-2017, 02:43 AM

Tftnt

Heda_Khaleesi · 04-10-2017, 02:43 AM

welcome

**Movies** · 04-10-2017, 02:44 AM

I'll bring the question from last thread over here

Heda_Khaleesi · 04-10-2017, 02:44 AM

yes good idea thanks.

**Movies** · 04-10-2017, 02:45 AM

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Originally Posted by shippers11 (View Post)

I have a question. I need all of you to answer it before I give you my thoughts. Regardless of what your opinion might be or how insane it is. I really want to hear it. The question is do you think Jon and Dany could have a baby by the end of the show?

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Originally Posted by j-pop G&Jo (View Post)

I hope that Dany isn't infertile so I do hope that one day she gets pregnant. I feel like the most likely love interest would be Jon. If there is going to be a baby I don't think it'll happen before the end of the show, but I think it'll be implied that she can bear children.

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Originally Posted by LxieGrey (View Post)

i thought in the books it was implied she won't have any children and in the show she once said to Jorah "the dragons are the only children i can ever have" or something like that. i always assumed she can't have any children and that's why i honestly don't think they can have a baby at the end of the show.

don't get me wrong, i'd love if they had a baby, i just don't think it will happen.

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Originally Posted by Movies (View Post)

I also always assumed Dany is infertile? If not then I hope she can have a baby with Jon. Besides if she really gets the Throne she needs babies to ensure the Targaryen bloodline. Otherwise if she dies one day, she was the last Targaryen. Well okay we have Jon but he is only half Targaryen and besides I don't wanna see him with someone else than Dany

Thanks for the discussion, keep continuing in here please.

Heda_Khaleesi · 04-10-2017, 04:46 AM

some pics in the OP don't work

shippers11 · 04-10-2017, 10:34 AM

Thank you all for your input. Allow me to give you opinion on the question. I don't believe that Dany is infertile or barren. In the books she notices that the Doraki sea is drying up. The Martell prince (I forget his name) travel to Essos to offer her a marriage proposal. The Martell sigil is a Sun. Dany interpreted as the Sun rising in the West and setting in the East. In her last chapter Dany either came on her period or she had a miscarriage, which leaves no doubt for me that she can have children. The question is can she give birth to a living child?

On the show the writers have a tendency of foreshadowing things. For example, Jon's death and resurrection was foreshadowed by Maester Aemon. Jon and Danys love affair/marriage was foreshawded by Tyrion. Dany told Khal Moro she won't bare anyone's child until the Sun rises in the West and sets in the East. This is a line that has been repeated multiple times over the course of the series. If it didn't have any significance the writers wouldn't keep reminding us. I believe at some point the Sun will rise in the West and set in the East. It's good chance this event is tied directly with the beginning of the Long Night. I don't how accurate this is but I've always believed that the birth of Danys dragons were a result of blood magic. Her infertility was caused by the same spell that gave her dragons life. What happens if one or all of them die?

Forgive me you guys. I know my theory is all over the place and might not make a lot of sense.

Heda_Khaleesi · 04-10-2017, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by shippers11 (View Post)

Forgive me you guys. I know my theory is all over the place and might not make a lot of sense.

actually it doesn't sound senseless at all. you have aa very good point with the "when the sun rises in the west..." line and maybe the writers keep reminding us because indeed with the white walkers and the coming battle, that might happen (though i don't understand how the sun can rise in the west suddenly but maybe this was just a symbolic meaning for something else?).

**Movies** · 04-10-2017, 10:29 PM

Talking about the promo, first off the Jonerys meeting has been such a long time coming and now that they are both finally leaders in their own right it's all coming together two people meeting as equals and hopefully soon to be so much more. They both look fantastic Dany is finally wearing her house colours and her hair looks so much closer to the proper Targaryen hair than it has in a very long time, I'd really like to see her someday reverse the colours as in a red dress and a black cape it would look amazing. Jon looks like a proud Stark, I'm glad his finally where he is supposed to be.

About the child thing, I am unsure and I just automatically assumed Dany can't get pregnant again. On the other hand it is a lot of magic in the show so this doesn't mean anything. And Tina is right, in some way she needs to get pregnant otherwise her Targaryen line dies out (if Jon and Dany end up together and if Jon doesn't end up with someone else).