~Carla~

Xinyue

Thanks for starting the new thread.

Maus

Thanks for the new Thread

goodbreakingbad

If it's not too much trouble, could you re-copy in the update Honorary Jaters list...bringing over from the last thread...(I added more and changed some around, so you can just copy in this new list over that on that's already there)

Honorary Jaters:
1. Matthew Fox
2. Evangeline Lilly
3. Josh Holloway
4. J.J. Abrams
5. Gregg Nations
6. Damon Lindelof
7. Michael Ausiello
8. Kristin Veitch
9. Michael Canfield
10. Jimmy Kimmel
11. Ellen Degeneres
12. Saturday Night Live Writers

~Carla~

Done!

Xinyue

Thanks Carla. Our opening post is just getting better and better.

goodbreakingbad

Thanks so much, Carla!

I agree, our opening post rocks boats!

Xinyue

It's so awesome.

goodbreakingbad

You know...no offense to anyone, but I really think it's naive to think her 'choice' right now, is her final one....given it's still so soon into the series, and in most shows with love triangles the writers like to drag them out til' the very end...since they know that's a large part of their audience...I just feel it's really naive to think this is the end, given she hasn't even had a real chance being all coupley with Jack. Usually, the writers like to give both sides of the love triangle their time, maybe even more than once...and then in the very end of the series, have the endgame one. Yeah, I hate love triangles. It should have stayed being about these two like it originally was. They are THE love story of this show...at least they'll always be to me.

♥Demily

Thanks for the new thread! Man, I keep missing out on those
Carla could you please add the We Are Jaters banner of Josh, Matt and Harold above the honorary members' list?
Oh and also, if someone would copy the new quotes for me, I'll go edit them into the site.

jabs

Yay! New thread!! Our opening post is absolutely fabulous!! I'm so feeling the jate love pouring in my veins right now!!!

I just really really hope Evi will be okay... Having your house getting burned down, just before the holidays... I can't even imagine how stressful and devastated she must be feeling right now. I wish her all the best for her holidays in Canada and hopefully she and her friends will find a new place soon!

Xinyue

We know that Lost will likely have 2 or 3 more seasons and I don't think that Skate will last that long. I'd be worried if my couple got together so early because the writers always find a way to mess with the early couples. I definitely think that the triangle will live on for this season and maybe next one...then we'll probably see a real choice. Like you said, Kate's never had the chance being couply with Jack and how can she choose when she's never got the chance with Jack? Triangles sucks so much, I can't think of a single one that I've enjoyed, they're just boring and annoying. ITA, they should have stayed with Jate. That was the plan from the beginning and Jate is just so...right. Everything fits...

goodbreakingbad

Here they are:

J.J. Abrams: You could put, Jack and Kate on a, NYC street, and have them pass each other, at rush hour, on a Wednesday morning. And, they would stop, and turn, slowing to watch each other go by. They know each other within the context, of a universal recognition. They have met before, this life. And, they will meet again, in another.

Damon Lindelof: On the other hand, Jack and Kate are a classical romantic couple. They are amazed by each other. And, as the time runs, they start to depend on each other, care about each other. The connection between them is getting stronger, this season. There is always something, someone, in their way. That makes the audience support them, all the time.

Danielle Hine: So, with the whole, Jack verses Sawyer thing, if you were a lady, who would you go for?
Josh Holloway: Man, that’s a hard one to answer. Let me think. I think, Jack’s a keeper, and Sawyer’s a fun weekend.

Ellen Degeneres: But, you don’t seem too upset, that you-you lost the girl, that you-you have the crush on. You seem, okay with that.
Matthew Fox: Oh. I…with uh, with, Kate?
Ellen Degeneres: Yeah.
Matthew Fox: Oh. I think, well, you’ll see, tonight’s episode is actually really revealing, uh, about sort of Jack’s, the reason why, Jack is so hard on Kate. And, why he doesn’t, he’s clearly uh, attracted to her, but, doesn’t want to be, on some level.
Ellen Degeneres: Hmm. Um.
Matthew Fox: And, in the same episode, you find out what happened to his marriage, in-in the flashback.
Ellen Degeneres: Yeah. That sounds good.
Matthew Fox: So, those two things, definitely tie together, in this one, so. (Ellen, 2006)

Interviewer: Do you think Jack and Kate will ever act on their mutual attraction? How much are you allowed to disclose? And, what would you like to see?
Matthew Fox: I think that’s definitely where the show’s heading. There are a lot of obstacles on the way. But, they’re obviously attracted to each other. And, they can’t get over it. It’s something we’ll get to when the show ends. I can guarantee it. But, I think everyone working on this show is aware of the fact that when you have romance in this context, it has to be handled very carefully. If the show pushes the romance aspect too much, we risk losing everything we’ve been building so carefully. The whole story line loses credibility, if people come out of such traumatizing, and terrifying circumstances only to get into a relationship.
Evangeline Lilly: Then it gets…
Matthew Fox: It’s complicated.
Evangeline Lilly: …Gets too superficial for our liking.
Matthew Fox: Yes. These things have to be earned. There’s something very interesting about people who find themselves stranded in difficult situations. They need relationships like that. I think that’s how relationships will progress on Lost, at least in the early stages. Jack has a lot on his plate. And, he’s trying to control a lot of issues, and to deal with many problems. And he’s also drawn to her. So, it’s very complicated. [And, that’s just the way we like it. Don’t we?] You have to handle situations this carefully. Or else, it’ll seem a little forced.
Evangeline Lilly: I couldn’t agree more with what he said, about needing each other. Their first meeting is not like: “Hey, I’m Jack!”….“Hi! My name’s, Kate.” Their first meeting is “Help me, please. I really, need your help.” And, it always starts with two people who are trying to survive. And, they eventually become drawn to one another, whether for support, or safety, or something else. It can’t be just, “I’m attracted to you. You’re cute. I like you.”, and that’s it. It has to be, more.

Jeff Jensen: What’s your take on the fabled, Jack/Kate/Sawyer love triangle?
Matthew Fox: Honestly, and I don’t know exactly how this will sound. The honest truth is that, I don’t think of it as, Jack, Kate and, Sawyer. I think of it as, Jack and Kate. The Sawyer element of it, I don’t even consider a reality. I’m really pleased, with where Jack and Kate are. I think, in the two years that we’ve been doing this show, which would amount to a couple months on this island, they are at their closest point. I think Jack’s being a little bit more forgiving of her shortcomings, or deceptions, or misleading things in the past. I think there is a very deep desire there [for a relationship], and not just physical, but emotional. There is a connection. And, it’s deep. And, there’s been so much in the way of that in the past. And, I do think the year will end, [Matthew suddenly interrupts himself, perhaps catching himself about to reveal more than he’d like.] At the same time, I’ve always maintained, that you can’t create the story we’re creating, and have people, gleefully walking down the beach, at sunset holding hands. It’s not the story; it’s not conducive to that. I think, there will be a time, when that’s capable. But, with everything that’s happening on the show right now, it’s not the kind of thing that would happen. So I think that while, Jack and Kate are the closest they’ve ever been, and feel the most comfortable around each other, and dealing with this thing that exists between them, there are other elements and other circumstances that are preventing it from being anything. (Entertainment Weekly)

Interviewer: What have been your personal highlights of this season?
Evangeline Lilly: Kate had so many good moments this year, that it’s hard to choose a solitary “best.” For last season’s, it would have to have been, delivering Claire’s baby. This season, it’s probably a much simpler moment. But, it has the same implications, when Kate told Jack, “I’m sorry for kissing you.” To me, both of these moments show Kate, releasing herself from the psychological shackles of guilt she keeps herself in, and standing on her own worth. She is demonstrating that she will be strong, and resolute on her own accord, independent of Jack. But, without putting up, or hiding behind her tough-girl protective mask. That’s the ultimate challenge for Kate. If she ever wants redemption: to believe in herself. And, be vulnerable. (Lost magazine)

Interviewer: What have been your personal highlights of this season?
Josh Holloway: I loved Jack and Kate’s kiss. They really captured that moment, how it should be. And, that’s tricky. (Lost magazine)

Interviewer: You know I have to ask, a question about, you, about Kate and Jack, for her.
Evangeline Lilly: Uh-huh. Of course.
Interviewer: Is there anything?
Evangeline Lilly: Well, we’re in captivity together, at this point. But I’m in captivity with, Sawyer as well.
Interviewer: Are sparks going to fly?
Evangeline Lilly: I think there’s, definitely a conducive environment, for things to heat up.
Interviewer: Do you lean one way or another?
Evangeline Lilly: I really don’t. I used to say all the time, that Kate and Sawyer made a more appropriate pair, because they were on a level with one another. Whereas with Jack, Kate needed to redeem herself a bit, in order to have him see her, in my opinion, as an equal. But, I feel like, she’s getting there, though. You can see the changes in Kate. And, you can see her growing, and, developing a confidence around Jack. That basically has gotten to a level where she’s saying, “You know what? You are just as screwed up, as I am. And, who are you, to be above me?”, and I think, once they get past that, it could be really, amazing.
Interviewer: Do you think Kate will be pissed or upset if she finds out about what happened between Sawyer and Ana Lucia?
Evangeline Lilly: I think Kate is not invested enough in the romance with Sawyer. I think Kate is really invested in the friendship, and the connection and the emotional camaraderie with Sawyer. I’m not convinced that she is there romantically. I think, romantically, her heart’s more with, Jack. That’s my own personal opinion.
Interviewer: I always think so too, because opposites attract.
Evangeline Lilly: I agree. I think, that there’s something about Sawyer, that’s so much like her. That her love for him is, almost like a sibling. You know, like a brother, or like, a best friend. I mean, can’t you imagine, Kate and Sawyer making the most amazing friends, and team, and partners? But, I don’t know, romantically, I think she hasn’t seen that. Although, she felt something when they kissed, that’s for sure! (E! Online Interview)

Evangeline Lilly: I think, that I won, some brownie points with the producer’s, in not saying anything. But, I swear to god, that they test us all the time.
Jimmy Kimmel: How do they test you?
Evangeline Lilly: I…hah.
Jimmy Kimmel: How could they possibly test you?
Evangeline Lilly: I can’t prove this theory. But, I have some pretty, harsh evidence. Because, at the end of season two, I was told, by the producers, that in season three, I-Kate, was gonna hook up, with one, either Jack or Sawyer.
Jimmy Kimmel: Hmm Mmm.
Evangeline Lilly: Then, season three comes around, and I see the script, and Kate hooks up, with the other, Jack or Sawyer.
Jimmy Kimmel: So, you’re telling us, that Kate hooks up with either Jack or Sawyer? Well, we’ve learned something accidentally, already here. Wow!
Evangeline Lilly: No. Jimmy. No. No. No. Jimmy. That’s not what I’m telling you.
Jimmy Kimmel: Alright. I’m gonna tell you, who I, think it is.
Evangeline Lilly: That’s not what I’m telling you.
Jimmy Kimmel: I’m gonna make, another prediction.
Evangeline Lilly: But that’s…okay. Who do you think it is?
Jimmy Kimmel: I think, it’s gotta be, Sawyer. Because, everyone wants it to be, Jack. [Evangeline points her finger at Jimmy.] So, it can’t be Jack. Because, I mean, if you and Jack are together…and by the way, this is just preposterous, that they’re not chasing you all over the island.
(Jimmy Kimmel, 2006)

Interviewer: Are we going to see resolution to your love-hate triangle with Jack and Sawyer, this season?
Evangeline Lilly: I don’t know, if you can say resolution, because that would mean, it’s permanent. But, there is some sort of a, temporary conclusion, because I do end up, with someone.
Interviewer: Who do you prefer, Sawyer or Jack?
Evangeline Lilly: I always say to people that’s like, choosing between my big brother, and my little brother.
Interviewer: But, who do you want to end up with?
Evangeline Lilly: It makes no difference to me. I love both men. They are the two different sides of a female fantasy. It’s either the good guy, or the bad boy. So, whichever side of the fence you lay on, is where you are going to want Kate to end up with. I don’t think I am that black and white when it comes to men. I kind of ride the fence. So it can be either one.
Interviewer: Who is it going to be?
Evangeline Lilly: They told me who it was going to be, and then I got the scripts for this season. As I was reading the scripts, I realized it’s the other person. So, I think they planted that on me to see if I could go the whole summer, and not spill it. (Philippine Daily Inquirer, 2006, on Kate 'choosing' Sawyer in season 3)

Interviewer: Great! Now, we’re alone here. No one’s listening. So, tell us, on the quiet, who’s Kate going to pick: Jack or Sawyer?
Matthew Fox: You just want me to tell you?
Interviewer: Go on then.
Matthew Fox: You’ll find out soon! All I’ll say, is she’s going to make her choice. It gets resolved. Not, because she decides. But, because of circumstances, that are out of her, control. In fact, it won’t leave it that resolved in the end, at all really. (2006, on Kate 'choosing' Sawyer in season 3)

Kristin Veitch: Swim! Swim for your lives! Was I the only one screaming this, at my TV set as Lost cut to black, at the end of last night’s episode? Sure, they’re on that Alcatrazy island. And, sure, Jack needs to stay put to keep vigil over Ben’s kidney sack. But, I can’t, for the life of me, figure out why Kate would be so hesitant to make an escape, and save Sawyer’s life, just because, she didn’t have Jack by her side. Unless…Kate is really in love with Jack! Think about it. She never answered Sawyer, when he asked, if she really, loved him. She never said the magic L word. As far as “choices” go, I’d say, a passionate presumed pre-death romp, is not exactly proof, that you’ve, found your soul mate. But, then again, what do I know? (E! Online Interview, 2006, on Kate 'choosing' Sawyer in season 3)

Michael Canfield: Last night, on Lost, Sawyer and Kate got busy, in broad daylight, right under the Others’ surveillance cameras. Sawyer loves Kate, we know. I’m guessing, he is pretty sure now, that Kate loves him, too. I hate to break it to, Sawyer. But, I see things completely differently. If I’m right, which is far from certain, of course, Kate doesn’t love Sawyer, although she is, attracted to him. She may or may not, have admitted it to herself yet, but Kate loves Jack. Here’s why I think so…first, I think, that Kate slept with Sawyer because, as she keeps saying to him, she didn’t want him to give up and die. And, she certainly knows, that Sawyer loves her. That, along with the tension of imprisonment, and fearing for their lives, gets them together. But, it doesn’t mean, she’s, in love with him. Furthermore, we saw in the flashback that she ran away from her husband, Nathan Fillion’s character [Kevin]. Kate doesn’t think she deserves anything or anyone, good. Jack is good. At least in Kate’s mind. So there’s more of a reason she would go toward Sawyer, when she really loves Jack. You still might argue that she prefers a bad boy like Sawyer. But, she gives herself away, when she tells Jack over the walkie-talkie, that she won’t leave without him. She does not say, “We won’t leave without him.” She’s only thinking about Jack at that point. She’d rather die, than leave without Jack, just as Sawyer would rather die, than leave Kate behind. (Online Interview, 2006)



ETA:

Xinyue, I am so with you, on being worried if within a love triangle the side (since I'm usually just for one...the one that was the original...though, there's a few exceptions, where I've been both), I'm for gets together first....and too soon. I just really hope these two are in fact endgame, as they were originally! And, I'd heard Lost was going to be around for at least 5 seasons...

Xinyue

Take B/A. I was so sure they'd be together forever but then they had to bring Spike into it and I'm not entirely pleased with how it ended. I wanted to see that she actually went to Angel when all of it was over. Since then I'm very careful with the couples I ship and I always worry if they get together too soon. I think it bodes well for Jate though since they've been through so much and they've had a long time to grow before getting together. You can call me Emma, if you want to.

jabs

OMG OMG!!! LOST MIGHT COME BACK EARLY!!!!!!!!!
Found this at matthewfoxonline.com

Let's not jump out of our trousers just yet, but cross your fingers people!!! YAY!!