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BehrItAll 12-29-2017 09:11 AM

Star Wars Episode VIII: The Last Jedi #8: DVD release on March 27th [SPOILERS ALLOWED ON THE ENTIRE BOARD NOW]
 

BehrItAll 12-29-2017 09:13 AM

Last thread:
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Originally Posted by Jerry D (Post 92506102)
Great post Stephanie. :)

I also wish that we had gotten some type of interaction between Ben/Kylo Ren and his mother in one of these movies. Now we never will. :(

:)


I know. All we had were them feeling each other during the space battle and that's not enough.

At NYCC my sister said to Carrie that Leia needs to smack her son. Carrie said she needs to lock him in the closet. :lol:

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Originally Posted by Roswell 10/2/00 (Post 92506351)
It's so sad when an actor has worked so hard to play one of the most iconic characters in the Star Wars story only to be limited in future films. However I feel Mark did a great job despite what he was given.

I agree that Mark's performance with the material he had misgivings about was excellent.


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Originally Posted by Roswell 10/2/00 (Post 92506351)
In Return at the end we see that Anikin, Yoda, and Obi-Wan are at peace they are one with the force and the balance has returned. Anikin came to the good side and was redeemed. The balance was restored.

Which is why I feel like he died for nothing. His ghost is rolling over.


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Originally Posted by Roswell 10/2/00 (Post 92506351)
I did enjoy the film just somethings I was like ok this is so Disney and not Lucas films Star Wars.

Yea, there are new sheriffs in town. That's why to me this is fan fiction. The only Disney movie I loved and felt fit in with canon was Rogue One.


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Originally Posted by ifitzgerald (Post 92506476)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQj9RwsKL40&t=4s

As we've all heard by now, the latest installment in the Star Wars Franchise has been turning heads for all the wrong reasons.

Although Critically, the film has done incredibly well, earning the ranking of "Certified Fresh" on the popular movie rating website Rotten Tomatoes. In terms of audience scores, however, it's the lowest rated Star Wars film since Phantom Menace.

To explain this odd conundrum, I have employed the help of Scranton Pennsylvania own "Michael Scott" playing the part of "Disney". The Cast Of "The Office" (Jim Halpert, Dwight Schrute, Andy Bernard, Kevin Malone & MORE) as The Critics of the film.

It's simple and hilarious in the very best ways


:lmao: at 2:05 when Jim is laughing at the Porgs and Pam has to tell him to stop.

Jerry D 12-29-2017 09:16 AM

Thanks for the new thread Steph. I closed and de-topped the old thread and I topped this thread. :)

BehrItAll 12-29-2017 09:18 AM

Awesome! Thank you.
:)

crash landing 12-29-2017 11:31 AM

Thanks Steph :back_hug:

jung trooper 12-29-2017 05:03 PM

thanks for the new thread :)

BehrItAll 12-29-2017 09:48 PM

:thumbs_up: No problem.

crash landing 12-29-2017 10:42 PM

Want to see the movie again :lol:

jung trooper 12-30-2017 10:01 AM

me too!

canthaveyou 12-30-2017 10:13 AM

If it wasn't for the snow, I would have seen it for a second time with my brother. :thud:

Jerry D 12-30-2017 12:33 PM

Here's an interesting article about the end of The Last Jedi:

The ending of The Last Jedi explained

jung trooper 12-30-2017 01:48 PM

thanks Jerry :)

Crystal Clear 12-31-2017 05:21 AM

I saw a YouTube review from a pair of twin brothers who were talking about why they loved THAT "infamous" scene with Leia, you know:

Spoiler:


And it really gave me a fresh perspective on why that scene is special. One of the brothers talked about how it is done with her as the outline of an angel, like an angelic Princess, and he believes that was the true intention of Rian Johnson, to honor Carrie's memory and all that she meant to STAR WARS in that scene, and the video really touched me because he got very emotional and said he feels personally offended that so many so-called fans are making fun of it with the silly references (Mary Poppins, Superman etc) because he believes Rian had a greater purpose in how to utilize her force powers in a representation of Carrie's everlasting spirit within the SW franchise.

Anyway, I know that was long-winded but like I said, the reviewer really made me view it in a positive light and appreciate why Rian did what he did in that scene. :look:


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Originally Posted by BehrItAll (Post 92508855)
I know. All we had were them feeling each other during the space battle and that's not enough.

They were probably waiting for Episode IX to do the big Mother/Son reunion stuff but obviously with Carrie's passing, that won't be on the cards.

That said, Kylo's decision to

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...Is something I found very moving. Say what you will about him, but there IS still light in there. At the end of the day, he's a young man trying his best to be the baddest villain around, yet there is STILL something in him that lets him know he cannot quite go ALL the way into that darkness.


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At NYCC my sister said to Carrie that Leia needs to smack her son. Carrie said she needs

Part of the reason why Ben Solo is now Kylo Ren is because he felt personally abused by a family member, so this seems kind of ironic. :P :smirk:


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I agree that Mark's performance with the material he had misgivings about was excellent.
I feel like the only person on the internet who felt that Luke Skywalker's character was respected in this movie.

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I will be back soon with more thoughts, but for now:

1) Adam Driver's performance is top-notch Oscar worthy, in my opinion. Hope he is recognized at the Golden Globes, too. The incredibly layered performance he gives in this dual personality of Kylo Ren and Ben Solo is MESMERIZING and I'm proud that we have such a talented actor who was chosen to play both the lead villain and Han and Leia's son. :clap:

2) Without spoiling it, I thought the throne room scene was the very best scene in STAR WARS history, equal to Han Solo frozen in carbonite in ESB. :love:

crash landing 12-31-2017 05:29 AM

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Originally Posted by jung trooper (Post 92521091)
thanks Jerry :)

Agreed as well :) Thanks

a new hope 01-01-2018 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by 4brathan&brucas (Post 92527647)

And it really gave me a fresh perspective on why that scene is special. One of the brothers talked about how it is done with her as the outline of an angel, like an angelic Princess, and he believes that was the true intention of Rian Johnson, to honor Carrie's memory and all that she meant to STAR WARS in that scene, and the video really touched me because he got very emotional and said he feels personally offended that so many so-called fans are making fun of it with the silly references (Mary Poppins, Superman etc) because he believes Rian had a greater purpose in how to utilize her force powers in a representation of Carrie's everlasting spirit within the SW franchise.

I actually liked the scene so I don't see the issue people have with it, however TLJ was filmed, obviously, while Carrie was still alive and they've said they changed none of Leia's scenes in the editing room after Carrie's death, so I don't see how anything could be related to honoring her in TLJ other than the post-credit screen :look:

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Originally Posted by 4brathan&brucas (Post 92527647)

1) Adam Driver's performance is top-notch Oscar worthy, in my opinion. Hope he is recognized at the Golden Globes, too. The incredibly layered performance he gives in this dual personality of Kylo Ren and Ben Solo is MESMERIZING and I'm proud that we have such a talented actor who was chosen to play both the lead villain and Han and Leia's son. :clap:

I agree so much!

jung trooper 01-01-2018 12:52 PM

yeah I hope both Adam and Mark get recognized for their work in TLJ

Jerry D 01-02-2018 08:39 AM

I thought that this was pretty funny:

https://scontent-dft4-1.xx.fbcdn.net...47&oe=5AC051E8

crash landing 01-02-2018 08:53 AM

HAHA :lmao:

BehrItAll 01-02-2018 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by 4brathan&brucas (Post 92527647)
They were probably waiting for Episode IX to do the big Mother/Son reunion stuff but obviously with Carrie's passing, that won't be on the cards.

Yes, there was an article in Vanity Fair how IX was supposed to be Leia's but now :no:


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Originally Posted by 4brathan&brucas (Post 92527647)
Part of the reason why Ben Solo is now Kylo Ren is because he felt personally abused by a family member, so this seems kind of ironic. :P :smirk:

That is ironic. I don't remember Ben saying that.


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Originally Posted by 4brathan&brucas (Post 92527647)
I feel like the only person on the internet who felt that Luke Skywalker's character was respected in this movie.

Spoiler:

I just firmly feel that Luke would never have gone into exile in the first place. Even if he felt guilty and responsible he wouldn't abandon his sister and best friend in such a dire time. He'd stick around and fight back.

The Force projection was awesome. I agree there. I felt his last words were more like, "My Force ghost is going to visit you."

I can't even remember that line from Max von Sydow's character. I only saw TFA twice in 2015.

You can see how much I am not that into the sequel trilogy. I didn't even bother to do a rewatch before TLJ. :shrug:

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Originally Posted by 4brathan&brucas (Post 92527647)
1) Adam Driver's performance is top-notch Oscar worthy, in my opinion. Hope he is recognized at the Golden Globes, too. The incredibly layered performance he gives in this dual personality of Kylo Ren and Ben Solo is MESMERIZING and I'm proud that we have such a talented actor who was chosen to play both the lead villain and Han and Leia's son. :clap:

I would be very surprised if TLJ gets any nominations outside of special effects. There is a bias against Sci-Fi / Fantasy in the awards community. It is so, so rare for this genre to get nominated for the acting and best picture categories.

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Originally Posted by a new hope (Post 92539357)
I actually liked the scene so I don't see the issue people have with it, however TLJ was filmed, obviously, while Carrie was still alive and they've said they changed none of Leia's scenes in the editing room after Carrie's death, so I don't see how anything could be related to honoring her in TLJ other than the post-credit screen :look:

I heard the same thing, that nothing was changed

a new hope 01-03-2018 03:22 AM

^Yeah sadly sci-fi/fantasy tends to get snubbed at these awards :(

Musickat18 01-03-2018 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Jerry D (Post 92550581)
I thought that this was pretty funny:

https://scontent-dft4-1.xx.fbcdn.net...47&oe=5AC051E8

:rotfl: I saw that yesterday and loved it.

a new hope 01-03-2018 09:00 AM

It's pretty great :lol:

Musickat18 01-03-2018 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by a new hope (Post 92559907)
^Yeah sadly sci-fi/fantasy tends to get snubbed at these awards :(

Very true...but there has been precedence for actors being nominated...so...:fingers_crossed:

a new hope 01-03-2018 01:16 PM

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“Star Wars: The Last Jedi” has surpassed 2008’s “The Dark Knight” and 2016’s “Rogue One: A Star Wars Story” to become the sixth-highest domestic grosser of all time, with $539.4 million after 19 days.
‘Star Wars: The Last Jedi’ Surpasses ‘Rogue One,’ ‘Dark Knight’ – Variety

One Thing Remains 01-03-2018 02:10 PM

Glad it's doing so well at the box office! I am sure this has been discussed before but I'm a little late to the party :blush:

I enjoyed this movie a lot. I will definitely see it again when it come out on DVD. The only thing I didn't like was all the parallels between characters. I feel like a big portion of the movie was just a repeat of the original trilogy with new characters. But it definitely didn't stop me from enjoying the movie.

Luke became Obi-Wan. Luke isolated himself away from everyone and stopped being a Jedi because of Ben turning (although Luke took it to more of an extreme) the way that Obi-wan Isolated himself after Anakin Turned. Luke also ended up taking on Kylo and sacrificing himself so that Rey and the resistance could get away much the same way that Obi-wan died fighting Vader so Luke could get away.

Kylo is Anakin. Crazy fit of rage where they destroy lots of stuff like kindergartners. Kylo killed his master to save Rey the same that Vader killed the Emperor or save Luke.

Emperor = Supreme Leader Snoke. They both tried to convert the new Jedi to the dark side and both were unable to see the feelings that their head Jedi for the Jedi they were torturing and they both died.

Rey is OT Luke - she saw good in Kylo and decided to go to Kylo to save him just as Luke as good in Vader and went to save him. Neither had finished their Jedi training before going up again the leader of the dark side.


I know there were difference in the stories but the cores remained the same. Rey wasn't completely able to save Kylo but she did set the stage for his future salvation.

I am sure this isn't where the writers are going but it kind of reminded me of the Matrix trilogy in that the general storyline just keeps repeating with different players. The difference with Neo is that he was in love with Trinity and that is why he choose a different path than his predecessors did. The Oracle arranged everything because she felt the outcome needed to be different. Much like the Force wants a different outcome - one that balances good and evil. It made me think that maybe the story will play out differently this time because Kylo is in love with Rey. But than again probably not since Anakin was in love with Padme and still went to the dark side.


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