BoneLady

I'm not sure if Chloe's still going on about it, but her constant "Who are you (really)?", while he's telling her again and again and strange thing keep happening is grating on my nerves. And then she sees his eyes turn red in a reflection and she's going again "Who the hell are you?" and I just wanted to punch her.

But all in all they're fun.

What I really, really didn't like about the last episode was Lucifer refering to Chloe as their pet human. That's not fun, that's degrading.

Telepath

Yup, that one's bad. It's one thing that it's simply deflection against Maze but it's still bad.

warangel88

True and I think for a lot of cases the big reveal is better if it is revealed during the 1st season. (Season 2 at the latest)

But in this case it is more of a denial thing and I think something big needs to happen for CHloe to start beleving. I mean she witnessed his powers in 1x03 (I believe) and didn't see his demon face in 1x04?

Telepath

Just imagine how ridiculously stupid she will look if she doesn't get it until, say, late season 2, after she's seen his powers at work for every single episode and been told the truth in every single episode of the show.

It needs to happen stat.

warangel88

I agree. S1 finale at the latest. (And we have a short season right)

But then again I feel like in a lot of cop and consultant shows they kind of "dumb down" the cop character

Telepath

Yeah, and I've sort of had enough of shows portraying girls as stupid and then giving them a free pass for it just because they're women

warangel88

Well I don't think Chloe has been given any free passes so far.

However, I do think in some cases female characters can get away with a lot even though a man would be judged harshly if they did the same thing. But then again it really depends on the fandom as well.

BoneLady

I was just about to say we could just have Lucifer shot again like in episode one, only this time with Chloe being perfectly conscious.
But considering that that he actually gets hurt now that probably wouldn't be such a good idea.

Telepath

He won't get hurt if it isn't Chloe shooting him. I'm willing to take bets.

warangel88

But him getting hurt seems to be linked to Chloe where she is the main cause of hurting him (shooting, slapping him ect) . But we don't know if another human were to shoot him if he would get hurt from that.

BoneLady

Now that would be a nice thing to figure out then.

But he's becoming more human. Emotinally at least. That could just as easily include physically.
Though it would be kinda fun, if only Chloe could cause him physical harm.

warangel88

I know you probably didn't mean it that way but it sounds like abuse (with the only Chloe can harm him physical harm thing). But with the way that Lucifer acted in the past 2 eps. He seems to be thrilled/amused with the idea that a human can hurt him.

wickedrum

a new hope

My lord that scene Such intimacy and closeness and emotional. We need more of that.

warangel88

That is definatly one of my fav scenes. Although the scene in the pilot when he saves her is a close second