At least if there was so much tension on the set, they were able to put it aside and be professional on screen.

http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/...path-prefix=enIt must of been hard having to do those tender moment scenes after having a full blown passionate fight without ripping each others... clot.i mean heads off ;)

I read Braga wrote some of those tender lines because it was his way of trying to get Mulgrew and Ryan to become friends

Yes, I too think that there's probably a lot more to this story than we'll ever find out. Although, I think that Mulgrew resented the decision of TPTB to introduce some T&A on the show. She had said in the past that the main reason why she had objected to a Janeway/Chakotay relationship was that she wanted Janeway to be taken seriously and felt that she wouldn't be if she was bed hopping with her senior officers. I totally understand and respect her decision. She also said that she wanted Janeway to be a role model, as she was the first woman to head a Star Trek series. Janeway couldn't behave like Kirk did or even Picard did with Crusher. The double standard is still alive and well now, let alone in the 90s. Kate must have felt that bringing a character that was a bombshell and wore skin tight clothing was insulting and unnecessary. The fact that Jeri later on became the producer's lover must have added salt to the wound.

This is what Kate said when someone asked her about the feud at the Las Vegas Convention last year.

“We did not have a deep friendship,” Kate said. “I think Jeri Ryan did a marvelous job in a very difficult role. It was very clear to anyone with eyes in their head that Jeri Ryan’s beauty and sexual appeal were an important part of the numbers. I had thought ‘damn, we were going to forgo all of this with a female captain.’ But the demographics proved the audience wanted more sex and they got it in that beautiful, talented woman.”

I thought that she handled the issue with class.

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I think Mulgrew wanted the Captain to be everything, sexy,(and she was ) strong and can hold her own. We all know that Mulgrew herself has always been insecure and always yearned to appeal to men and not to women.

I think because the network bought in a Bim..bombshell:D , it ruffled her feathers because it bought back all her insecurities. You see, Mulgrew is very contradictory, she pretest to be against feminism but then for her to say the network took two steps back in bringing in a bombshell is a little wacko:eek:.

The producers was trying to give Janeway a spock and they took a gamble and they got more than what their money's worth. They got more than a Spock/Janeway relationship. They got a cosmic relationship much greater than Spock/Kirk. A chemistry that can never be reduplicated by any other actresses than Ryan/Mulgrew. They had something extra. Some thing a lot more. It was both sensual, physical and very deep.

Mulgrew was so rapped up in her own ego that she failed to see the bigger picture. Let Ryan be the hoe.. oops i mean the thrill of the week. As long as it didnt take away the focus that she was the woman in command and continue to do that .That should have been her focus. Instead she allowed her standards both professionally and personally get in the way. The consequences of that has still remained to this very day and can never be repaired . It has ondoubtily been a cost to the show . According to Ryan , she will never reprise 7 again -so thats Voyager out of any race to have a movie

Ryan can never" walk in her shoes" . Mulgrew is far superior in intellect , in the ability to command , her ability to bring people together, her impeccable wisdom and brilliant sense of humor. She can step up the plate when new challenges presents itself to her with ease . Ryan can never be that

The conventions i have seen ( which is very few) of Ryan , she is boring, simple and oh so childlike. I cannot believe this woman is 3 years older than me :eek:. Her characters(apart from 7) has always been the same , but hey she caters to Hollywood's shallowness and the sectors of teen boys that gets a thrill grow up and turns to someone much younger then she will down the slippery road of the old Farrah Fawcett syndrome- having implants, facelifts ( if she hasnt already done it ) in hopes to savour her youth:look:.

A prime example of what i said , there is nothing she wont stop out to be main starlet. I wonder how much of what she said in that recent interview about getting with Braga to stop Mulgrew bullying her was true?. 5 years after the show had ended she was still dating Braga and was about to marry him , so how could the reason why she was with him is because of the big bad bully Mulgrew?:sigh:

Could it be she wanted to take over Voyager and thought by having the producer on my side she will get the best lines , will continue to be the focus ?. The fact that she was still with him years after was because she was hoping he will have her star in her own trek series. I recall he had created series for her about a woman who could talk to animals, but somehow it didnt follow through- she may have thrown a wabblier and threathen to leave him because it was not good enough:sigh:..

I really love her interviews because she is so nieve and has a tendency to shot herself in the foot time and time again. The true Ryan has revealed itself in a huge way when she punched Mulgrew in the stomach with that latest interview.

I find it so hilarous that for someone who was badly effected by the bullying has suddenly appeared at various conventions (even bringing along her family) which she knows the " bully" (as she pretains Mulgrew to be) will be . I thought it was unheard of to even breathe the same air as the person that tramatised her:eek:

After 20 years having had another child, gotten married and still doing films , Ryan cannot seem to get over Mulgrew. The same goes for Mulgrew - although she has kinda found her happiness now( i hope). It does say a lot about Ryan's happiness and like i said - they was a lot more than happened between them than just a case of the Lien/Ryan thing

She hasnt always - believe me .. In interviews before the major sucess of OITNB , she was very lethal and dangerously nasty about the whole thing. I dont think its class at all she is trying to be. She is in a happy place ie; constant work , so it may come across as being classy

Ryan and Mulgrew are as bad as each other and there actions at a testiment to that. Look at Shatner and Limoy( although it was not nice Shatner didnt attend his funeral) at least they had repaired their differences and remained to be a part of each others lives throughout and they are MEN!!!FFS..Men are suppose to be the biggest babies when it comes to feuds .

Janeway/Seven 10 years later- Will their still be sparks or will it all have died out?
 

I was thinking , if we all had the good fortune to be graced with a new Voyager Movie , do you think the sparks between Janeway and Seven will still be there?

The stars themselves have moved onto lead completely different lives ie; Ryan married with a kid and Mulgrew over in NY with a new boyfriend

Maybe the chemistry will not be as powerful- somewhat stagnant and lack that electrifying cosmic magnetism it once add.. Just a thought;)

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This is really all the same topic, so I've merged the threads.:)

With time I think their relationship would have changed significantly and that they both would have moved on. Seven would have probably become quite independent and no longer rely on Janeway as a mentor.

What do you think?

I agree.. however i was referring to the chemistry between the actors on screen. The chemistry they had before was nature - not forced . I was just curious to whether it will be the same given that both have moved on in their lives . If their was to be a movie will the chemistry have to be forced . Like for example Stephanie Powers and Robert Wagner. When they first started out in Hart to Hart, the chemistry was strong and when a remake was done. It lacked a little something

It's hard to say. Some friendships can be easily revived, while with others, you've each moved on and you don't have that much in common anymore.

It's hard to say, but Mulgrew is a damn good actress and could have chemistry with a rock if the role required her to do so.

BTW, I plan to go to her book signing in NY this Wednesday.

:)

Have a lovely time :D

Good point, they are professionals and they'd probably manage to pull it off in front of the cameras.

Have fun!

No matter how professional they are ..One can tell whether it is nature and what is forced. When i look at the scenes they did , you can tell that the chemistry to so refreshing and new - it was almost like when you have your first love. . I do not think the chemistry will be the same given the changes in their personal lives..

Accordingly to both of them - in particularly Mulgrew, they where never friends:eek:. I believe otherwise of course.. I think they where friends in the beginning for a while and then something changed that to becoming bitter enemies

Ask her lol.... Only kidding ;)

Even so, they had a good working relationship that came across on screen. I'd think that's something like a friendship that either comes back naturally, or you just can't get into it the same due to the time that has elapsed and personal changes.

Exactly :nod:, you would never know there was any trouble with the way they acted on screen together

I think there was a genuine friendship- a very deep one in the beginning , something happened which turned everything upside down and into a vicious feud . I totally agree that it will be so difficult to repair it given the length of time and personal changes. Maybe it will be enough for them just to hear the words " Im sorry" :confused: