[Anickjl16]

Originally Posted by Lipsis (View Post) Interesting bed choices, eh? What would that be for those of us not watching?

Everyone except Adam and Sheila are still in the same beds. James and Chelisa want to stay together but don't want their relationship to be to obivious...sounds like a Jess and Eric move.

James says that she is the only reason he can sleep at night. They once again declared their "like" for each other.

[oredukman]

ANY TOUGHER??

[Lipsis]

Originally Posted by Anickjl16 (View Post) Everyone except Adam and Sheila are still in the same beds. James and Chelisa want to stay together but don't want their relationship to be to obivious...sounds like a Jess and Eric move. James says that she is the only reason he can sleep at night. They once again declared their "like" for each other.

Thanks Joanne.

[loganX2]

Originally Posted by oredukman (View Post) ANY TOUGHER??

Crap I cant decide. I want to marry and have sex with all of them...not at the same time though, I have standards. I will still toss brad pitt.

btw...rick you are make Cathy jealous with all the attention you are giving me. Give the lady a little love would ya.

[woobieknowsbest]

Originally Posted by oredukman (View Post)

aww..Look at Amanda and Rick's Wedding photo

[Pooh_Bear]

Originally Posted by Lipsis (View Post) Pooh is on it today!!!! ( Okay I cracked myself up typing that )

LOL your to funny Debbie. I love play on words.

[oredukman]

Jessica posted some new photos!!

[oredukman]

I am tryig to enlarge these

[cathe64]

Hi everyone!


Thanks Shannon for the ms updates & the interview link!

Rick I love all your puzzles & pictures, moxt importantly I love the fact that you are posting more often!!!

Katie I hope your feeling better!!

Wow, Debbie thanks for the link to Eric's audio interview, it's great!! I'm so happy for him!!

http://www.wrestlezone.com/audio/VOW_02252008.ram


Lynne thanks for letting us know the time Eric's interview starts, that's was great!! (1:31:20 mark)

Rick thanks for posting the new pictures Jess just posted!! She looks great & I love the fact that she is a ring girl! That is so Awesome!!

[southsidejew]

Thanks Rick
That is sooo cool. I actually just, three days ago, signed up at a boxing gym. My husband is freaking out about it and has already said he is not paying to have my teeth replaced if need be. I think he is actually afraid I will be able to kick his butt..HEE HEE!

[oredukman]

Originally Posted by cathe64 (View Post) Hi everyone! Thanks Shannon for the ms updates & the interview link! Rick I love all your puzzles & pictures, moxt importantly I love the fact that you are posting more often!!! Katie I hope your feeling better!! Wow, Debbie thanks for the link to Eric's audio interview, it's great!! I'm so happy for him!! http://www.wrestlezone.com/audio/VOW_02252008.ram Lynne thanks for letting us know the time Eric's interview starts, that's was great!! (1:31:20 mark) Rick thanks for posting the new pictures Jess just posted!! She looks great & I love the fact that she is a ring girl! That is so Awesome!!

wow..I am dumping Amanda...you are so much sweeter and sometimes she comes across mean...but she's not

[Pooh_Bear]

Rick - Thanks for bringing the new pics of Jess over fom myspace.

C2 - You're welcome.

[Pooh_Bear]

New article from Eric. Enjoy!

The Ten Greatest Finishing Holds Of All Time

The Ten Greatest Finishing Holds Of All Time
03/06/2008 by Eric Stein

I thought it’d be fun to take a look at a very integral (but not often discussed) aspect of pro wrestling: the finishing hold. If developed and promoted correctly, a finishing maneuver is one of the most important aspects of a wrestler’s career. When the perfect union of wrestler and finisher comes along, it can escalate a sports entertainer to the promised land. I strongly believe that the success of a finisher can be attributed to a variety of different aspects: how identifiable it is to the wrestler, the move’s success rate and effectiveness in putting away an opponent, how well it works with the character, believability, and so much more. Clearly this is open to wild interpretation and I sincerely hope that this sparks a huge debate – this list is highly subjective…without further adieu, here is my list of the ten greatest finishers of all-time.

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10) Ric Flair - Figure Four Leg Lock
Over the course of Flair’s storied 35 year career, there has been one major constant – the figure four. How many epic, 45 minute classics ended with a submission smack in the middle of the ring? I know there are two dissenting camps on this matter, but if there’s any justice in the world, Flair will retire with Shawn Michaels tapping to the Figure Four on the biggest stage of them all, Wrestlemania. The only reason this isn’t higher on the list, is the move’s relative ineffectiveness throughout the past few years of Ric’s career. One too many reversals, breaks, etc. have rendered the move less of a sure thing than it once was – but when you think of Flair, you think of the Figure Four.

9) Power & Glory – The PowerPlex
Power & Glory was one of the very first of many tag teams to be formed from fledgling solo performers, in this case Hercules and Paul Roma. Some such teams have been highly success (ie the New Age Outlaws) and others have not been quite as lucky (for example, Rhythm & Blues). Unfortunately for them, Power & Glory fits the profile of the latter. The one thing they did have going for them was their finisher, the PowerPlex. In one fell swoop, Hercules would execute his top rope superplex, as Roma simultaneously leapt from the other turnbuckle for a top rope splash. The timing was impeccable and the visual was impressive. Even to this day, I’m not certain that any tag team has come up with a unison finisher that was as innovative as the PowerPlex.

8) The Undertaker – Tombstone Piledriver
When I think of The Undertaker, one of the very first thing that comes to mind is his laying in the North-South position, pinning his fallen opponent...their arms crossed and his eyes rolled back. And what is that as a result of? The Tombstone Piledriver. The Tombstone was well named and well conceived from the very beginning – not to mention, the move has always been positioned as a 100% game ender. Through 15 consecutive WM wins, victims have ranged from Jimmy Snuka to Batista. The reason that this doesn’t find its way higher on the list is the fact that the Last Ride, chokeslam, and now the gogoplata submission have crept their way into the mix now and then. Even still, the Tombstone has always remained and come back strong.

7) DDP / Randy Orton – Diamond Cutter / RKO
I think what makes this move so cool is that it can be pulled off anytime, anywhere, at any juncture in the match – when winning, when losing, pre-meditated, or out of the blue. It blends lightning fast quickness, the element of surprise, and yet is still a power hold. In turn, it has lead to some of the most exciting, unpredictable finishes in all of wrestling. Additionally, the move somehow fit the slyness of both DDP and Orton’s characters.

6) Mankind – The Mandible Claw (Pre-Socko)
This is likely the move on the list that yielded the most visceral, intense impression on me the first time I saw it. First of all, the move was brand new, unique, and PERFECT for the character. Top that off with the fact that it was shown as paralyzing the opponent…even resulting in them foaming at the mouth. The overall effect was creepy, bizarre, and utterly awesome. Let’s not even talk about the retarded Socko version…I’m talking mask, leather finger gloves, etc.

5) Stone Cold Steve Austin – Stone Cold Stunner
Completely speaks for itself. Who hasn’t been the recipient of this move? The Rock, Chyna, Triple H, HBK, Bret Hart, Savio Vega, Vince McMahon, hell even Linda McMahon. And often, it came one after the other after the other. When I think of the Stunner, I just think of piles of carnage and wreckage . Not to mention, several of the best moments in the history of the WWE.

4) Petey Williams - The Canadian Destroyer
Wow! This is the one entry on the list that makes it solely due to the move itself. TNA can thank Petey Williams, because having this move in their commercials made a fan out of me. I mentioned this list to a few buddies and each and every one of them cited this one as deserving. The visual is just devastating. I mark out for this every single time.

3) Shawn Michaels – Sweet Chin Music
Another classic. Another move that can be pulled out of anywhere. Another move that has put down the best the industry has to offer. So let’s talk about the one thing that spikes HBK’s superkick to the top of this list – Brutus Beefcake’s Barber Shop window. Shawn kicking Marty through the Barber Shop window was one of the two single greatest heel turns of all time (the other best heel turn just so happens to be by #1 on this list). To me it is one of the most memorable and greatest moments in wrestling history.

2) Bob Backlund – Crossface Chicken Wing
My personal favorite move and one of my personal favorite characters of all-time. Talk about the perfect blend of finisher and character. When a possessed Backlund would stalk his prey from behind and lock this on, it was just brilliant. The fact that he’d look at his own hands in awe after the submission, like he was thinking “what did I just do? Look at the power of my hands,” was classic and priceless every time. One of the greatest matches in WWE history was Survivor Series’ Bret Hart vs Bob Backlund submission match for the title. Cemented both Backlund and Owen’s status as some of the very top heels of their generation. And if you don’t think this hold would be effective, read Bret Hart’s autobiography.

THE BEST FINISHER OF ALL-TIME...


1) Hulk Hogan – Leg Drop
What can I say? The simplest, crappiest move on this entire list is in fact the greatest finisher of all-time. Hulk Hogan and his leg drop single-handedly made the business what it is today. It is completely identifiable with the Hulkster and put down every last opponent that the industry has to offer. The honest truth is, I couldn’t imagine it any other way – could you envision Hulk ending a match with a powerbomb or boston crab or 450 splash? When you think wrestling, you think Hulk Hogan – and when you think Hogan, you think leg drop. The greatest icon in all of sports yields the greatest finisher. I can just imagne your reactions now…FLAME AWAY!


Honorable Mentions: The Beserker’s throw over the top rope, The Great Muta’s red mist of death/moonsault combo, F-5, Swanton, Pedigree, Buff Blockbuster, Randy Savage’s top rope elbow, Tazzmission, Kidman’s shooting star press

And really quickly off the top of my head, some suggestions for the WORST finishers of all-time:

- Great Khali’s big chop – look at the guy…this was the best they could do for his debut?
- Doink the Clown’s stump puller – There is no conceivable way that this move would hurt whatsoever
- Papa Shango’s shoulder breaker – Is a technical shoulder breaker really a good fit for a scary voodoo doctor?
- Test/Boggeyman/Road Dogg/etc’s pump handle slam – The move breaks all flow of the match…just takes too long to pull off and always looks way too weak
- Marty Jannetty’s rocker dropper – this is for the express reason that it crippled a jobber. I debated for a long time whether or not that should put it on the best or worst list. Truly, it probably just puts Jannetty on the sloppiest wrestler list.
- Deuce and Domino’s running kick – individual finishers for tag teams are always lame, let alone pathetic kicks from guys who are under 6’10”
- The Texas Tornado’s discuss punch – I get it, it was like a tornado…gimme a break.


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[stephheartsbb]

I'm so mad at James Chelisa wasn't even on Ryans radar until he opened his fat mouth!!

[xEJx]

Thanks for bring the new pictures over. How cool that she got to meet Kelly Rowland.