min1023

This show was amazing all the way but Ursula ruined Cesare's character for me. He had such a strong character at the first 2 episodes, but just as Ursula started popping all over the place, all his character building just tumbled down.

I just don't know why NJ created a character like Ursula. The screentime spent on all the C/U moments could have been used so much better

This show would have been so much better if Ursula was out of the picture.

I wish NJ and the producers see this forum and all the C/L fan ideas out there and realize that Ursula is ruining the show for most of the viewers. Plus I wanted to see more family dynamic, but the story line was going so fast and all the potential family moments were skipped.

claire_bear2007

In the discussions section of "The Borgias" Facebook page, someone has already started a "Characters Who Should Not Return for Season 2" topic.

I hope Neil Jordan reads it. The first nominee is *drumroll*.....URSULA ! hahaha

min1023

He better read it.
I don't think I could wait till next year knowing Ursula will come back. I just want her out of my screen

i.am.andie

Marcy, what're you talking about? WHEN WAS LUCREZIA PLAYING WITH CESARE'S CAPE?! Please tell me what scene--I've got some major re-watching to do

Nothing Else Matters

I'm excited for next season.

inmyveins

I can't get enough of the glimpse of Cesare pacing in the lobby of the convent. Lucrezia's screams are bothering him so much... but the entire atmosphere makes him come off looking like the father.

deathly_smirk

I watched it I watched it
OMG. Did anyone else totally bawl their eyes out when Cesare holds the ittle wittle baby? He's so awed by it..totally like a first time dad

Vanora

Ursula should have stayed away after she became a nun

inmyveins

Anyone else notice they are breathing extremely deeply during the first scene? THAT IS HOT. It makes me feel like they are about to kiss.


Drop dead.

claire_bear2007

oooh thanks for that compilation.

I enjoy so much the convent scene. Even when Cesare mentions Ughsula's name, it's funny that when he looks back at Lucrezia, he looks like he wants to kiss her. bwahahah. Quit acting like the broken-hearted boy Cesare. You're obviously NOT pining for Ughsulawhatsherface, but the woman beside you. LOL

When Cesare mentions Ughsula or looks at her, he always looks like he's about to burst out giggling, and not like he's smoldering with love or passion. I don't think it's a weakness in Francois' acting since the boy is rather precise with his facial expressions and tonal inflections.

Seriously, that "teasing" of Cesare in the convent that he'll come visit her...it didn't come off like a guy still pressing his suit for a girl he loves...but rather, it reminded me of frat boys or soldiers teasing the hefty and matronly hausfrau or head-nurse. niyahaha. No sexual undertones whatsoever.

And of course, can't get enough of Lucrezia going meow meow on Ughsula. bwehehe.


And yes, the first scene, the reunion moment, it looked like Cesare was gonna swoop down and kiss Lucrezia madly! haha

BleedingBlue

I LOVED the forehead kiss, Im actually checking out the episode right now.

Nothing Else Matters

inmyveins

Alright, so listen up. I have arranged some of my thoughts on the perfect C/L scenes I'd love to see. THESE ARE NOT REAL. I also added some dream scripts:



*First: Lucrezia is jealous of Ursula.*

Lucrezia: I've seen the way you look at her. -unemotional face stares off into distance-

-Cesare looks at Lucrezia, his entire disposition turning savage. He turns her to face him, eyes smoldering.-

Cesare: I only have eyes for you.

-cut-

*Second: After her son's childbirth, Cesare helps Lucrezia dress. (not what you think. o.o )*

-Lucrezia pauses as she sees Cesare enter.-

Lucrezia: Why are you here, brother? The nuns can help me.

-his eyes are serious-

Cesare: I insisted on being with my dear sister who I could have lost from that ordeal.

-Lucrezia nods. Cesare steps closer, placing a hand on her arm, but she gasps and backs away. Her thoughts are of Sforza's awful abuse.-

Lucrezia: ...No...!

-Cesare, shaken, feels a wave of hurt as he feels his sister's mistrust. Still, he once again places a hand on her arm. Lucrezia looks up with saddened eyes.-

Lucrezia: Give me your hands, Cesare. -he does so, locking eyes with her-

Lucrezia: Your hands... are they rough?

-Cesare's eyes darken.-

Cesare: They are only rough to those who act so upon you. -his eyes soften-
Cesare: I would never hurt you.

-She turns to move the cloth from her skin; Lucrezia's shoulders are exposed, revealing the bruises Sforza left so brutally. Cesare notices.-

Cesare: -softly touching the marks- What has the world done to you, my love?

Lucrezia: -whispers- It has changed me.

-Cesare kisses the back of her head as tears form in his eyes.-

Cesare: I can't stand to see you like this... -fiercely- I should never have let you out of my grasp.

-cut-



I know these scenes won't happen, but it would be amazing to see/dream about nonetheless.

claire_bear2007

^^ *sigh* oh i'd die and go straight to heaven to see Francois and Holliday act out those scenes

and yay! New lovely fanvids!!!

deathly_smirk

watched it like a million times already! Why so beautiful C&L?