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**apologies to the mods for 3 posts in a row.** I just got the recap now in my mailbox, and wanted to post it before episode 403 airs tonight. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] Enjoy!

QAF Season Four
Episode 2 Recap
May 1, 2004

by xof
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Show opens in Darren's apartment. You remember, he's Shanda Leer. And if you don't remember, then trust me - one look at the sequined gown and performance posters and you'd have no DOUBTS as to where we are...lol. Our luvly queen has indeed survived his bashing, but is a mass of bruises and has an injured leg. (((That walking cast looks soooo damn familiar - had to wear one for almost four months once. Xof props to the Diva in the Space Boot!!!))) Justin is there, helping Darren with meals from the diner. Darren's quoting classic film to Justin, who does NOT know his Bette Davis and Joan Crawford - BAD GAY BOY!!! But omg, he DOES know his "A Star Is Born" - Darren's thrilled, "Oh, thank God. He really IS GAY!" hehe... (((btw - if you've never seen "Whatever Happened To Baby Jane?" - you immediately lose your queer card and have to go straight - little pun there - to J-A-I-L - Do NOT stop at GO!!!))) Seeing these two discussing the bashing, hearing more of Justin's reaction to his own abuse is really interesting to watch. Hell, seeing Justin relating to another person his own age - and on equal ground life-experience-wise, is interesting too. Darren says the doctors think he might have a permanent limp, "that should brighten up my act!" Justin says not to listen to them, that they said he'd never draw again after he was bashed. Which he can, "for about 15 mins, then my hand starts to shake." But he uses a computer, and the "point is..." D: "You went ON!" Justin says Darren will too. Darren's a bit awestruck that Justin's so "reasonable." He himself keeps hoping that his attackers will be caught and put in jail for life where "they'll get ****ed nightly by prisoners with AIDS." (((Warm and fuzzy right? Which is completely understandable considering what he went through, but just wait till you get the full number of times that gets said this episode - it's like OZ on acid..lol.))) J: "That's gruesome." D: "Doesn't cost anything to dream." Justin says he tried not to think about what happened to him, but Darren can't stop. He sees it all, again and again. Justin advises Darren to forget about it. (((Does anyone think Darren reminds you of a young Emmett?)))

Liberty Diner - Michael's head is on the table as he moans dramatically, as if in great pain. Debbie and Ben crowd his bowed head asking what's wrong. ((Besides a sudden lack of oxygen? lol...)) Michael lifts up, his hand to his jaw, saying impacted wisdom teeth. To which Deb says, "But you had them all extracted." snort... Michael says but Emmett doesn't know that...lol. See, he's trying to desperately come up with an excuse NOT to go with Emmett to the Faerie Weekend in the Woods Retreat. Michael's asking why did he agree to go. D: "Because you're a good hearted human being, who would do anything for his friend." (Yep.) M: "Cause I'm a lame-brained doormat who doesn't know how to say no." ((Ohhhh, yeah....lol.))) Ben says it'll only be a couple days, and he's discussed these gatherings in his class - that they were started in the 70's by Harry Hay, and they are supposed to be a very empowering and enlightening experience. Michael says then why doesn't Ben go...lol. But Ben can't, he's got Hunter to look after and classes to teach. As Michael says he's not going, no way - Justin comes by to tell Deb (who's t-shirt says "Get Shucked"..lol) that Darren thanks her for the meals. Ben asks after Darren, to which Justin says it'll be awhile before Shanda Leer performs in public. Deb says at least he's got one ray of Sunshine in his life, meaning Justin. (((Who besides me wants to break out into "The Sun Will Come Out Tomorrow"??? doe, rae, mee, fah, so, la, tee...))) Ben says there's a meeting at the Center to discuss the bashing, "We're going to make sure this never happens again." (((Zen Ben, the Gay Avenger...lol))) Exit Justin, Enter Emmett - and Michael immediately grabs at his non-aching jaw...lol. Deb asks if Em's ready for his weekend away, Em says he just hopes his inner faerie looks more like Tinkerbell than Captain Hook...ha. Before Michael can make his excuses, Em gives him a really emotional thank you for choosing to go with him. He says that no matter what happens, he'll always be grateful that Michael - his "best pal" - was there offering his love and support. (((Oh dear..hehe))) Michael immediate melts and says he's ALL ready to go....haha. M: "Or else these fairies won't get their wings." Deb sees him off laughing as she makes flapping wing motions in the air...snicker. (((Trust me, it was cuter visually than written down..lol.)))

Ted is back in rehab - (((You GO BOY! lol...))) And even though the walls aren't looking as green as before, Ted's carrying on the addiction-equals-sickness theme - he's wearing guess what color - again??? That's right - GREEN... He's making a funny, saying it was a good thing he left rehab when he did because he just reallllly doesn't trust his housekeeper to dust everywhere.... Blake and the others laugh - but Ted says it gave him time to think about where he should be, what he should be doing - and though it wasn't easy, he came back. Every day's been a challenge. (((Blake's either looking at him with immense pride, or he's head over hills - you decide..lol.))) Blake says Ted did it, and Ted says it's time for him to leave. (((Whoahhh - jump in time anyone??? How much time has passed since Ep. 1??? We're gonna get whiplash at this rate...lol.))) Ted says he can leave with his head held high, clean. And he owes it to having a great councilor - oh, and his insurance running out...just kidding. Then of course, we have the guy from the group who has to rain on Ted's parade by saying Ted'll be back - both in rehab and using again. That it won't be any different for Ted than the rest of them, that it's not the same world Ted left when he came to rehab. Ted says he'll be just fine, he'll be alright. The guy says they'll leave a light out for him just in case...(((ouch.)))

Ohhhhhh, the NEKKID GUY painting is back in Brian's loft. (((Uhmm, how?? lol... He must have hunted that sucker down from where ever he'd sent it for auction, as soon as he took the donation money. Hmmm...))) Brian's in bed, Justin walks out from the bathroom naked but for a long red towel held in front of his body. Brian's on the phone with a headhunter - who's found him a job offer that he won't consider because the terms are so much less than what he had at Vangard. (((But you've got to hand it too him on dexterity - he's able to flip Justin onto the bed as he figuratively flips off the lady on the phone...lol.))) Side note - cute moment of Justin flicking his wet hair to get Brian wet - after which Brian runs his fingers through it. (((Can you say visual foreshadowing??? That's the second cast member this episode to play with Justin's hair - Deb was the first. Remember these times folks - the tresses, I mean, for the times and hair styles are a changing...lol.))) Justin's shocked Brian turned down the offer, but Brian says he can do better - meaning working for himself. Justin says he thought all of Brian's clients turned him down, but Brian says he can get others. J: "What if you can't? You'll be destitute. You'll have nothing." B: "Since when did you turn into a Jewish mother? Or Michael?" (((ha - Maybe Michael's half Italian and half JEWISH Drag Queen...lol))) Brian says what's one more risk, "Besides, if I don't do this now, I never will."

(((Ok - warning - your eyes may need recovery time after the next segment of the story begins - either from bugging out REALLY big, or from ROLLING them constantly - you decide whether you want to be shocked or stupefied by the silliness of it all...lol.)))

Emmett and Michael arrive at the Faerie Camp in the Woods - and lordy it's a sight. (((It's like the essence of "G-A-Y" just EXPLODED all over the place, complete with rainbow balloons and leis - naked campers - really bad mix and match table cloth skirts and leather vests....THUD!))) Michael and Em look shell-shocked...lol. (((You did read that correctly, yes?? EMMETT HONEYCUTT thinks this is TOO gay...snicker. Run for your lives!!!))) Their welcome guide, "Periwinkle - the Queen Registrar and Official Greet-ar," asks if they are two virgins. Em insists he hasn't been since he was 15, ha. Peri means to the gathering, of course. He tells them they have to pick out Faerie names - which will be theirs forever, so give it some thought. (((I'm thinking for Michael, "He who should run NOW." And for Em, "He who should run like a girl after him." lol...))) Em says if they back up slowly, no one will know they were there - (((Amen, sister!!!))) But Michael says Em dragged him up there, so they are staying. (((Why??? Oh yeah, because the script says so...lol.))) M: "What's the worse that could happen?" Em, looking at two naked men walking together holding hands in the woods with paintings of lizards, etc on their bodies, "THAT!!!" snicker....

Brian's trying to drum up some new clients - and as the cliché goes, start with what you know. So he's in the leather sex shop, discussing market strategy as the sales assistant is stuffing a mannequin's bikini jock.... (((And no, I'm not kidding...snerk...giggle.))) The guy's saying that it all sounds too much, hell, their advertising budget is only $200 per month. (((You should see the look on Brian's face at those figures....hehe.))) Brian sucks it up - and I mean the NEWS of the lack of money this will entail - you dirty minded meanies...lol, and says they'll start small. (((Don't they all?? xof - ducking as the dildos start flying...ha))) Just kidding, he says they'll run a "lean campaign. No fat."

Ted getting ready to leave rehab. Blake's trying to ease his worry over the guy from group, saying Jonathan's called D & G around there. "Doom and Gloom." Ted says he doesn't mind. He won't be back. Blake says to remember to give himself and his friends time to adjust. Blake gestures to the entrance, "here we are." T: "Never thought I'd be so scared to see a door." Blake says to think of it as a threshold to a new life. Ted thanks Blake - again...lol, for helping him - implying that he wouldn't have been able to do all this on his own. (((Look at Scott's eyes during this scene - amazing.))) Ted very nervously asks if he can give Blake a call sometime, professionally - B: "Or maybe just to say hello." (((Ahhhh, this is the first time Ted's been put into a position to pick-up Blake, as it were. In the past, it was always Blake who made the move.))) Blake gives Ted his number, and Ted leans in - kinda out of sorts as to how to express his feelings, and ends up giving Blake a hug - rather than the kiss you almost suspect he intended. Blake hesitates for a second, then hugs Ted back. Ahhhh... Then with a "good luck," from Blake - Ted walks out of the rehab center.

Brian's loft - his former assistant Cynthia from Vangard is there, pulling out ad mock-ups from a campaign that Brian had organized before he was fired. For a drug company. (((Cute moment where both Justin and Brian repeat that Brian was escorted from the building without "so much as a ballpoint pen." Would SOMEBODY give the man a phallic shaped writing utensil!!!!!!!! He's pining something terrible...lol.))) The campaign is for a pill that reduces an HIV+ person's viral load. Seems Vance is going to pitch Brian's ad ideas to the big boys tomorrow. Which Brian says he can do, "once you've sold your soul to the Devil, he holds the copyright." Justin says come up with another idea, to which Cynthia agrees - because she wants to come work for Brian. Brian says what company is gonna trust their baby to a "one man band working out of his house." J: "It's not the size that matters." B: "Have I taught you NOTHING?" (((Snort - funny, very cute.))) J: "It's the vision." He says Brian could be back on top again with this win. But Brian says for once, he'll, "stick to the bottom." *THUD* (((Say it ain't so...lollll.)))

Back to wacky wonkers in the woods - or Camp Faerie...lol. Peri is showing Em and Michael the layout of the camp. If you call pointing in random directions with a limp wrist, showing directions...ha. He leads them to a makeshift changing area, saying they have to get out of their street clothes and dress the part of faeries. Meaning they have to pick and choose amongst tons of wild GoodWill-on-the-Pride-Pill hand-me-downs. One look at the yellow ball gown Peri says he'll look "enchanting" in, and Michael says, "Strapless makes me look fat." hehe... (((Darlin, we remember you in strapless sequins at Pride - and it was more like PHAT!!! *THUD*))) Peri leaves them too it. Michael says he didn't agree to look like his mother for the weekend...lol. Em says maybe they'll feel the magic if they try some items on. Cut to - Emmett emerging from the trees as - wellllll, uhmm.... Gloria Swanson meets Fred Flintstone??? Awwwwww... Seriously, he's wearing a green turban and animal print dress. YIKES... He's saying maybe they should forfeit their registration fee, and go home. (((Xof, voting HELL YES!))) When - oh my, out comes Michael in a sleeveless denim jacket and - brace yourselves, red plaid mini skirt!!!! The legs!!! hehe... The thighs...sighhh...lol. (((I know people think that's a kilt, but darlins - look at the length and design of it - it's a naughty catholic school girl mini!!!! lol...))) Two men come out of nowhere, saying how HOTTT Michael looks. Fun to see Michael getting all shy and flirty - "It's just something I picked off the rack." hehe Em's rolling his eyes. Piston and Wolfen (((you've GOT to be kidding))) - introduce themselves. Michael says, "I'm... Dumpling." OMG - he didn't!!! lol... But he did, "Dumpling" is Michael's Faerie name. Em asks where that came from, and Michael says it just came to him. Speaking of just coming - out of nowhere, that is - is COVER YOUR INNOCENT EYES...lol, naked volleyball!!! I kid you not. Em and "Dumpling" have stumbled upon men playing at flapping danglies in the breeze, with the occasion pop of a ball over the net...snort. Michael immediately runs to check it (((or is that THEM?))) out, while Em stays behind by his own choice.

The Gay and Lesbian Center - group meeting to discuss the bashing. The meeting is being led by Melanie and Ben. (((Melanie, I could understand - she's been on the board of the center for three years or so... But why is Ben speaking?? lol...))) People are offering suggestions for how to keep each other safer, like more lighting on the side streets and carrying whistles. When out of the blue we get a very LOUD whistle from the back of the room. Enter Cody - our newest cameo cast member!!! And man is he a pisser...lol. Gorgeous eyes and a wash-his-mouth-out-with-soap vocabulary. He says whistles won't help, and the cops are NOT going to do a thing to help. He thinks they need to protect themselves. Lindz asks if he means starting a vigilante group? Cody jumps on that idea, "Yeah! The Pink Posse." (((Okayyy. Anyone quaking in their boots for fear of that name choice? lol))) Even Justin looks a little amused - for the moment. Mel asks if he means taking the law into his own hands, to which Cody reminds everyone that the law says they can't get married, they can be fired for being gay, they can't adopt kids and that they can't ****? Ben reminds Cody that the No ****ing law was changed...lol. Cody snaps that up and makes a sarcastic joke about now being able to **** in Texas. C: "Yippee ki yo ki yay!" He continues to say that gays are abused because they can be, that they are sissies and chicken-****s who are too afraid to do anything. "Nothing's going to change until you fight back!" Now Justin's looking at him seriously. C: "Until you learn to say 'Don't **** with me'." He leaves.

Liberty Diner - Deb's thrilled, seems the police have caught the basher suspects!!! Lindz, Mel and Justin are there. When Lindz says Darren must feel relieved, Justin says, "More like bloodthirsty." (((Deb's t-shirt says, "Don't ask me, I'm just here to get laid!" hehe))) A voice from behind Deb asks for a cup of coffee, and low and behold - it's TED!!! Deb runs and hugs him. Lindz, Mel and Justin welcome him back. And when asked how he's doing, Ted - well, he pulls a Ted and starts giving them the LONG version...as in day by day, blow by blow, lol. (((We do find out from Deb that it's only been seven days. WOW, that's a ****ing quick recovery...hmmm.))) At which point they all suddenly have to leave - OUCH. Deb goes to serve food, Mel and Lindz leave too. Leaving Justin sitting at the booth, looking like - PLEASE, SOMEBODY RESCUE ME! lol... Ted gives him an out, and Justin leaves in a hurry. (((Ahhh, poor Teddy.))) Then anotherrrrrrr voice comes out from nowhere, and we discover that Brian's sitting at the counter. He says "Theodore" should be commended. That it's an amazing achievement to have sunk so low, "to hit bottom with such a resounding THUD." (((YEY!!! That's MY LINE!!! hehe))) Ted says Brian should be a motivational speaker in rehab...lol. Brian - who's being gently sarcastic (if there is such a thing) continues with his own brand of welcome-back honesty. B: "Of course, the good news is once you've hit the bottom, you can't go any lower. So, that means there is only one way to go, and that is...." He makes an "UP" motion with his coffee cup, ha. Playfully, B: "Sounds like?" T: "UP?" Brian smiles, patting Ted on the back as he leaves. Ted is left frowning as he shakes his head.

Gym - Brian's trying to talk management into letting him do a campaign for them. He's told they'll think about it. Enter Ben and Hunter. Brian: "It's Batman and the new Robin." Ben: "Better not tell the old Robin that..." hehe (((Cute, very cute.))) Hunter, never one to miss an opportunity, asks if Brian wants to hook up in the steamroom...lol. Ben reminds him that they are there to make sure Hunter stays healthy, not to pick up guys. Hunter asks why work out, when you can take some meds - he points to a poster with two shirtless men on it - and "Kapow." Ben says it's better to build the immune system naturally, esp. considering some of the side affects of the meds. Which he goes into in graphic detail. Br: "A little early to be freaking the kid out, don't you think?" (((uhm, hey MISTER!!! You're the one who gave Michael the diarrhea speech when you told him to **** Ben, not fall in love with him...lol.))) Ben says he just doesn't want Hunter believing some "misleading ad that makes you think all you have to do is pop some pill and you're as good as new. Anyone who's taken one knows what a crock of **** that is." Brian's looking thoughtful after that line...lol. (((Ahhh, the great American Ad Exec's Brain at Work...lovely view, yes?)))

Back to the wild wonders of willies in the woods - literalllllllllllllllly. Awwww... Ekkk... Em's sitting at the water's edge, watching as two guys have at it on the opposite side of the bank. And Em's not even happy about the sightseeing opportunity. (((See, I knew all those months on JerkAtWork.Net would leave him jaded!!! lol...))) Enter Periwinkle again. With a courtesy tray of "mushrooms." IE - It's time for the drugs... bah dum dummm. Em - who's miserable, says what the hell and eats one. And what fallows is view after view of a hallucinating Honeycutt, wandering in distraction through the flora and fauna of Mother Nature's backyard. (((Realllllllly cool views of time-elapsed photography though!))) Finally he runs out and sees an older man who's busy putting rocks into a circle - for a group bon fire to be held that night. Em is enlisted to help finish the task, and they discuss whether he's happy to be there for the retreat. Em admits to not being thrilled. He asks for Em's Faerie name, saying his real name is Harry but his faerie name is Ariel. Em hasn't thought of one. A: "You don't believe in fairies." *HA* Ariel says Em's not one of them, a proud fairy. Which pisses Em off, saying he's a VERY proud fairy - "ask anyone who knows me!" lol.. Ariel says Em's flame - right now - wouldn't toast a marshmallow...snicker. He says he can tell Em's been hurt by someone he loved - and that he feels angry about it. Em says he came there to renew his spirit, but it isn't working. Ariel says that's because what Em's looking for, isn't there. Em asks then where is it? Instead of answering, Ariel says, "There. The circle is complete." And with a panning crane shot, the scene ends on that cryptic remark...lol.

Ted's checking his emails at his apartment. Seems Dr. Crystal has sent him tons of emails asking where the **** Ted's been. Ohhh, and he sends Ted an instant message asking the same! After a quick flashback to the world that is addiction with Dr. Crystal, Ted quickly deletes all the emails and shuts the computer down. He then rushes over to his kitchen and grabs a box of drug paraphernalia and starts to throw it away. (((Ok, Ted just got out of rehab - and his pipe and crystal are NOT the first things he makes sure are out of his existence??? WTF? lol...))) But he hesitates, for fullllll dramatic effect, and opens it instead - holding the pipe as he has another flashback. When knock, knock, knock - it's Mel and Lindz at the door. Ted answers it, LEAVING his drug box open for all to see on the kitchen counter. (((Again, WTF???))) Mel says they were just in a hurry earlier, and they are sorry for rushing out of the diner. They've brought "Droopy" back - but think it needs a new name since the orchid is sprouting up tall and proud now due to having "TLC - Tender Lesbian Care." (((A flora erection courtesy of the lesbians' green thumbs. Does that mean Mother Nature really MAY be a dyke??? ....lol. Just kidding.))) They notice the box, pipe, etc. Ted segues out of it nicely, saying he's just getting rid of his triggers - "anything that reminds you of what you DON'T want to be reminded of..." He tosses the box into the trash, assuring them he wasn't about to start using again. They are very quick to say they didn't even think that.... (((Yeah, RIGHT!)))

Vangard boardroom - Vance is presenting Brian's ideas to the druggies... Meaning the pharmaceutical suits. "Promise of health, of a future bright with hope, of dreams fulfilled. Of being Back On Top." Cynthia uncovers the ad mockups and we see tons of colorful athletic odes to joy and energy - meaning almost nekkid men playing sports, etc. Vance says it's a campaign based on one simple word, and that is... snicker. Brian bursts into the room - complete with a veggie tray of snacks...lol, saying "Bull****??" (((Great entrance.))) V: "I was gonna say optimism." Vance smiles through his anger, asking cheerfully how the hell Brian knew about the meeting. B: "I set it up, before I left." lol... Cut to the suit, who says he likes what they've done - emphasizing quality of life over the disease. Brian gives his impression of the ads: "I should be so lucky as to have HIV." ***THUD*** "Then I too could go, everyday, and play ball with my shirtless hunky buds." Snort... (((I think I just inhaled my soda...lol.))) Vance smiles again, saying if Brian doesn't leave, he's calling security. Brian says, "regretfully Mr. Remsen, I must be going..." haha... BUT, he unveils his own NEW ad ideas before he goes. Based on another "simple word - Honesty." He puts up ads done in black and white - with the true everyday faces of people with HIV, and slogans that showcase another twist - the reality of taking Endovir. Vance reads the tag lines, "Some days I feel like hell, but at least I'm still alive." V: "I don't want to climb a mountain, I just want to live another day." V: "Sure there are side effects, but nothing I can't handle." The suit is pissed!!! Saying they've spent millions getting the drug ready and approved for use, "You think I'm gonna waste it all on an ad campaign that tells people they're gonna feel like hell?" B: "They already know that! And they are willing to accept it, provided your drug can buy them another year, another month. That's all they're hoping for, that's all they want. And that's alllll you can honestly offer." Vance says their job is to make the drug as "attractive" to the consumer as they can, and that's what "we did." Brian pops in and reminds them that HE is the one who did that - and his own original idea stinks. B: "Having HIV may not be a ride in the part, but with Endovir, it's not a death sentence. So why not just say that?" The room is left speechless...lol. (((Damn, Brian is like - OMG...lol. Let's just say he's acing his "Road Less Traveled" essay...ha.)))

Darren's Apartment - Justin's excited about the bashers getting caught. He says all Darren has to do now is finger them, "metaphorically speaking" and they'll rot in jail for 20 years - orrrrrrrr (((let's all say it with him - it'll be our new Sound of Music...eeek))) "get gang-raped nightly by prisoners with AIDS." Darren's not so enthused, you see he's decided NOT to identify the bashers! THUD...(((heck, that's more like a THUNK...))) He's claiming not to remember what they look like, despite being the one who described them to the police so well that they were caught. Darren's already told the police he can't help them. (((ouch))) Justin's angry, saying they are just going to walk! Darren snaps that he doesn't want to discuss this, "now what's for LUNCH?" J: "CHICKEN!" (((ha...funny))) Justin asks why has Darren changed his mind. Darren's thought about it, saying "cowardice is the better part of valor." He's scared if he goes through with it, and they get off - that they will come looking for him. J: "Say they are BACK on the street tomorrow because YOU didn't do anything. Say they attack someone else." Darren blows up, saying Justin's the one who said to put it behind him. Justin's pleading, saying maybe he was wrong and it's time they stood up for themselves. "Fought back." D: "And when your attacker bashed you, and left you for dead, and then got off practically scott-free, what exactly did YOU DO?" (((Well, hell - there was a small matter of him having been in a coma and then the hospital for weeks. Oh, and then speaking out through his art about it with Rage Issue One...but oh shucks, I guess the pencil isn't mightier than the baseball bat, Darren, or more cathartic either...sigh.))) Justin looks like he's been struck as he stands silent.

Liberty Diner - Ted and Blake are in a booth. Seems Ted hasn't lasted even a day outside rehab without having to call Blake to talk him down. Blake says Ted needs to be patient, to which Ted says he's already a wreck. Blake's holding Ted's hand across the table, but Ted pulls away - agonizing over having sweaty palms. Saying he once broke up with this reallllllllllllly amazing, gorgeous guy - and "I dumped him, you wanna know why? Sweaty palms." hehe (((Funny, esp if you think about two things - 1) that harkens back to Ted breaking up with the piano player with bad breath a couple years back...lol, and 2) Ted is HOLDING a steaming cup of coffee in his hands!!! IE - Sweaty palms!!!))) Blake says it'll take time to adjust, both for Ted and for his friends. Ted says he makes them all nervous. They see him and want to flee. "They don't trust me." (((Uhmmm, hello - you have to RE-EARN that privilege, darlin.))) The same thing happened to Blake, but they eventually forgave him. Except one... (((And we all know who that One was...TED.))) Ted asks if Blake means his mother or father. Bl: "The first guy to ever really believe in me. I never made amends with him." Ted, who's stillllllllll clueless that they are discussing him - asks if Blake tried. Bl: "We lost touch. But recently, we've reconnected." Ahhh, the glimmer of light passes between them (((and that wasn't a crystal addiction reference, no matter how APPROPRIATE it would have been...lol.))) Blake leans closer to Ted over the table, saying gently, "Maybe now I'll get my chance." Ahhhhh....

Brian's Loft - Justin's sitting on the floor, working on a table that is lit up so he can see through his sheets of drawing paper. (((Very neat...))) He's getting angrier and angrier - drawing one scene of violence after another, switching out between sheets in his agitation - and his discomfort. His hand's cramping up on him - a catalyzing reminder of why he's so furious. We get a spinning overhead crane shot of Justin from above, circling down until it levels out as Brian walks over. Asking since when did "our heroes become the merry butchers of Gayopolis." J: "Someone has to do it, since fags are too cowardly to stand up for themselves." Ohhh, so now Brian sees this is a serious moment, saying someone is pissed off. J: "You would be too if you got your head bashed in." Brian, you should hear his voice, "Yeah, I KNOW. I was there." Justin just looks at him. Brian says he thought Justin had put it behind him, moved on. Justin doesn't want to talk about it. Then admits that Darren's refusing to point out his attackers. And Justin says that he, meaning himself, was a coward too, that he should have done something. Brian says the best way to get even is to become the "biggest ****ing success you can possibly be" - Justin's rolling his eyes, "I already know." Brian says to take the anger and put it into his work, use it. Brian tries to kiss Justin, saying, "Nothing pisses off a straight guy more than a successful fag." Justin shoves Brian away. Asking if he knows "Guernica." (((***See below for a link on "Guernica."))) That "people say it's the most powerful anti-war statement ever made. (((Hell, even I wouldn't say that - though it does pack a punch.))) I say, bull****. It hangs in a ****ing museum. Collecting dust." He balls up his drawings, saying, "this is all bull****. It doesn't do a mother****ing thing." He gets up and leaves Brian sitting on the floor, looking at the sketches. (((I'm an art-history major, so you REALLY don't want me to get into what I think about the importance of art to society - it could last longer than this recap. However, I do know that in this instance - Brian's advice is SPOT on, because it's not suppose to be about vengeance. It's suppose to be about cleansing, healing and overcoming that which you fear. About growth, becoming better than we are. Or, to put in another way - it's not an eye for an eye that frees you. All too often, that tact leaves you a lesser person, a lesser spirit than you began. Which means THEY win.)))

Ted's place - He's shoving anything he feels is a "trigger" into this huge pillowcase that Blake is holding...clothes (((huh???))), dildos (((rotflmao - only with a former lover or best friend could you just yank out handfuls of sex toys as he did without blinking an eye))), porn mags, porn videos - (((Is anyone thinking this is a little reminiscent of Emmett's housecleaning before his going straight storyline??? lolll...))) Ted goes to put a framed picture of Guiseppi Verdi into the bag, but Blake says now wait - how is HE a trigger??? T: "He was here watching the whole time." (((oh yeah, that made sense...lol))) Blake takes the picture away from Ted, saying, "He was also here the first time you played 'La Traviata' for me. I say we give him a reprieve." hehe... (((I second that!!!))) And then that cuteness is followed by complete insanity!!!!!!!! Ted goes over and picks up his laptop - ***GASP, XOF - Can't WATCH!!!*** He thinks it's a trigger too, and despite Blake's doubt, Ted tells him the laptop goes into the bag too. (((Huhhhhh??? Darlin, clean out your cache, empty your links, reformat your hard-drive if you must - but as an accountant who's OUT OF WORK, what the HELL are you giving a laptop away for???? That's just silly.))) Blake does make a joke when Ted mentions having gotten tons of emails about increasing his dick size, "I don't recall that being one of your shortcomings." haha... They laugh, and Blake puts the computer in the bag. (((I'm thinking he's just got himself a lovely new home pc...lol.))) Ted says even if the triggers are gone, he's still gonna remember what he did and how he hurt the people he loves. Blake asks if he's going to be ok, but Ted admits to being freaked out at being back in his place by himself. Blake offers to stay with him, on the sofa - of course. Ted says, oh yeah, of course, and goes to get him some blankets. Bit awkward, but endearing moment as Ted says to sleep tight. Blake saying, "if you need anything..." (((Darlins - would you two just JUMP each other, please??? lol...))) Ted goes to his room, shutting the door with a small wave goodnight.

Okey Dokey - back to wankers in the woods...lol. Okay, so they aren't actually wanking. But trust me, most of them are probably just TOO tired to have at after a day of frolicking...lol. It's a group circle bon fire. (((And if anyone makes a circle-jerk joke here - that is just Soooo Unoriginal...lol.))) Everyone's passing a stick around and repeating, "I feel the power." (((Yeah, I'm sure if we were holding anything as symbolically phallic and as LONG as that stick while in a circle of perspective shaggers who are scantily garbed, we'd ALL feel the power too.))) Em rushes into the group, holding a lit torch (((where'd he get that? lol...))) and takes the stick from Michael, or "Dumpling." lol... Em pronounces he feels the power, and then names himself, "On A Clear Day You Can See Forever." (((It HAD to be a Babs flick...lol. But I can't say anything, I actually OWN that movie.))) Which he shortens to, "Clear Day." (((He's got a gold lame do-rag on his head, btw. Who in their right - or heck, in their gay minds would bring gold lame to a nature retreat??? snicker...))) The bald, leather-pants-and-harness-wearing tour guide for this event asks Em to share his feelings. Em says he realizes that faeries have the ability to create beauty out of ugliness (((tell that to Justin))) and joy out of pain (((tell that to Ted...lol, oh nevermind.)) He says it comes from within, and he guesses he knew that all along. Father Leather Daddy asks them all to rise - (((and no, that wasn't a sexual command))) and they all hold hands as they thank the powers of the Earth and the Heavens for giving them their special gifts. He mentions their faerie founder, Harry - at which point Em asks Periwinkle where Harry is - since he helped him put the stones in a circle earlier that day, he expected him to be at the gathering. Peri tells Emmett that Harry passed away two years back. (((Ohhhhhh, you see. So the next time anyone offers you a mushroom in the middle of the woods, you're alllllllllllll gonna say???? Noooooooo. hehe)))

Media focus group - The druggies are showing both ad campaigns to a diverse group of HIV positive people. First is Vangard's version. Would they make them ask their doctors about Endovir? To sum their answers up, "Sure, if it came with his phone number." ha.. Another says, "same old, same old." Though they like the message of hope, "and of being on top." So they are then shown Brian's ads - and the mood of the room changes immediately. Everyone's taken aback, "I don't believe it." "Who would run ads like these?" One lady says it's the truth, some days she does feel like hell. "But to actually see it?" Another man scoffs, "You think you're EVER gonna see that? That is one ad you'll never see. They'd never have the balls." Camera pans through a hidden two way mirror and we see the Suit in the room with Brian, both looking rather seriously at the preceding.

Cut to Babylon!!! And lordy but I ****ing ADORE that song!!!!! Kinda Indo-Asian beat, remixed around can you guess??? It's the KNIGHT RIDER Theme Song!!!!!!!! Whooo hooooooo...lol. Somebody TELL me who does that song??? It's fantastic...

And thereeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee's Emmett!! Dancing his Clear Day Ass Off!!! (((Really, it's brilliant to see Peter Paige go wild on a dancefloor!!! THUD...))) He's dancing with a scarf held in his hands, above his head - and just before the camera pulls away from him, he snaps it at the camera...hehe. (((That HEAVY eyeliner and spikey bangs are KICKIN' on him!!!))) Alot of sweeping and swooping camera shots from above and all around as we see more of Em dancing with tons of others on the packed dance floor. Quick cut to the bar, where Michael is standing with Ben and Brian. He's showing them the pictures they took during the retreat. (((Where the heck did he hid the camera in that mini-skirt??? Ohhh, the possibilities... Let me count the ways...hehe.))) Brian's flipping through the pics as Michael points out Periwinkle and Clear Day...lol. Ben points to one of Michael in his kilt - (((it's a mini-skirt, if you please...lol))) - saying, "Don't forget the cutie in the kilt." Brian lets out a full blown chuckle, covering his mouth with his hand. Br: "I think you may have found your Christmas card." Ben kisses Michael, calling him, "Dumpling." (((hehe))) Brian jerks his head over, asking with disbelief - "Dumpling?" M: "That's my faerie name, and if you EVER so much as call me that." (((ROT****ingFLMAO - At the word "Faerie" - Brian starts flapping his hands JUST like Debbie did earlier - like wings...lol.))) When Emmett comes up and throws glitter (((oh ****, I just typed "clitter" - awwwwwwwww, THUD))) confetti at Brian and Michael. Brian throws some back at him, asking why he did it. Em, in FULL Flaming Glory by the tone of his voice - (((it's all in the pitch and inflection, darlins))) says, "Just trying to spread the magic." Ben: "Maybe next year, we all should go." (((uh, NOOOOO...))) Michael and Em agree. Ben asks how about you to Brian. Br: "I would rather have my tongue super glued to a lesbian's twat." (((THUD!!! lol...))) Em boos him and puts his scarf over Brian's eyes for a second. Once freed, Brian mentions, "Besides, I'll be too busy with my new business. And ah, my new account." M: "The Circus of Porn account isn't exactly gonna buy you a summer home in P-Town." Br: "But the Remsen Pharmaceuticals account WILL!" He throws confetti into the air as everyone smiles in surprise. Br: "Here's to Kinnetik. Drinks are on me boyz." They all down shots as Em echoes, "To KINNETIK!" (((Notice Michael doing this little shot glass roll with his wrist, coolllll!))) Brian goes back to look at the pictures, even as Em tries to get him to dance. Brian ends up putting his hand over Em's face to push him away playfully. And Michael and Ben start dancing too, until all of them try to grab the pictures from Brian but he holds them over their heads...lol. (((Loved that scene!!!)))

Woody's - Justin's sitting by himself at the bar when he sees Cody across the room with a group of others. Cody's preaching to any who'll listen about his "fight back" philosophy. Justin walks over and his greeting from Cody is, "Well, if it isn't Meg Ryan." (((ouch...))) Everyone laughs. Justin doesn't back down, he says he heard Cody at the center and he agrees with what he had to say. Cody's not concerned, "That's nice." He's very dismissive. But again, Justin gets his point across, "It's about not allowing yourself to be victimized." Wellll, that's enough to get Mr. Cody to put out his hand and shake Justin's in introduction. "Cody Bell." (((As in "Saved by the...??? Now THAT'S FUNNY!!!))) J: "Justin Taylor." Justin sits down at Cody's indication, and is asked, "Ready to kick some straight ass?" (((Luvly, really. He's such a keeper, isn't he??? A real take home to Mom type...lol.))) Justin doesn't answer, and the scene ends as the camera pans back from the table where the group starts discussing where to meet tomorrow night.

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"Guernica" - by Picasso ((Take a look at all the links for other pages of info on the work and its history)))
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Next Week -

Outside the Baths Entrance Way - Brian telling Justin, "This is where I get off." J: "It's a little early in the day, isn't it?" Then a scene of Brian walking through the hall of an obviously closed down bathhouse saying he always dreamed of having an office with a drain in the floor...lol. (((That's right, Brian's gonna use his old stomping ground at the Bathhouse as his new Ad Agency's Offices.))) Shot of Justin - with allllllll his hair buzzed off, THUD, walking down Liberty Ave with Cody - both wearing pink t-shirts, cutting to a scene of Justin telling Brian he's joined the "Pink Posse" - to protect Liberty Ave from homophobes. Brian saying Justin's going out looking for trouble. Scene of Cody kicking some guy's car. Justin questioning Brian as to why it's wrong to stand up for themselves. Michael, Em and Brian walking down the street - when opps - Em sees Ted across the way just as Ted sees him - VERY "oh ****" kinda moment. Liberty Diner - Michael's saying they should all go to this new restaurant for dinner, telling Em that Ted's gotten a job there as a singing waiter. (((ohhhhkay))) Em leaves the diner in a huff saying they can say bravo for him, he won't go. Ted seeing them at the restaurant - getting VERY angry at having them show up there because he's embarrassed. He's snapping at Michael, "Did it occur to any of you that if I had wanted you here, I would have asked." A quick flash of miscellaneous scenes that make little sense, but ending with Justin throwing a punch at the camera's direction.

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Thanks Danielle for the explanation.

Re Roswell: I was sort of an outsider there too (not going along with the 'main' couple). I loved the Max-character but I hated the Max/Liz couple. Story of my life. [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

Need help from someone internet-illiterate to finish your website? Anything to speed up your Michael smashing Brian fic. [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]

That's where I recognized your name from Velocity. I love your fic!
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I hated the Max/Liz couple.
They were SO annoying. But I didn't like the bitchy blonde.

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Yay! [img]smilies/clap.gif[/img] That's very, very cool!! [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]

EPISODE 403 CHAT:


Well, this was an okay episode. The fates seem to be on my side this season, I thankfully missed the dreaded B/J sex scene! WOOHOO! So happy my mom called me out of my room for something. [img]smilies/lol.gif[/img] Let's see...quickie recap -

*not much Ben [img]smilies/party.gif[/img]

*Ted got a job as a singing waiter - he was SO lip synching, it was ridiculous and totally laughable. Anyhoo, Michael tried to make nice, Ted blew him off. Michael and the gang got together and went to see Ted at work, thinking it was a good thing (cant imagine why) and Ted freaked out.

*Emmett was mad at everyone, particularly Michael - because they were making an effort with Ted. Poor Em, he's hurt and angry.

*Justin dropped the Meg Ryan looked for a buzz cut, actually looks good. He and the "pink posse" started their patroling...pantsed some guy who called them names, argued with Brian, was a little bitch to his mother, kissed Cody - ya baby! I know nothing will come of it, but it was really nice seeing that....Cody is a cutie.

Interesting part? When Brian referred to Cody as "this Cody" and Justin said his *mom* used to call Brian "this Brian" So, ew, once again - the whole daddy/parental side rears its ugly head. ick. Thank you Cowlip for that reminder, keep my hate alive! [img]smilies/thumbs_up.gif[/img]

I LOVED how it ended with Justin, totally snapping and BAM! fist to the camera (which was the guy's view point) *although* you could see that coming a mile away. Still, i liked it.

*Debbie walking in on Vic/Rodney [img]smilies/rolleyes.gif[/img]

*Great scene with Michael/Hunter...very much the parent/child scene, it was so good.

*Best part, naurally, the B/M scene. Although it wasn't exactly their scene...but who doesn't love it when Brian gets protective of Michael, and vice versa? What happened - Emmett was mad at Michael and was being bitchy with him in front of Brian, Michael was obviously hurt so Brian confronted Emmett and told him not to treat Michael like that, and told him that Michael is a good friend and if Emmett forces Michael to choose between Emmett and Ted, he'll choose Ted.

Remember, Brian said similar words to David in season 1. Brian knows, if you force Michael to choose you are probably going to lose. That was a good moment.

*Emmett and Michael made up....good scene...Michael all cute and pouty, Emmett and his eyeliner apologizing. It was nice.

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OK last nights episode was ook as well. I have to say that this season is turing out to not be so spectacular. Hopeully it will get better as the season goes on.

Loved the Michael & Hunter scene.

Really liking Blake for some reason.

Ted was being an ass. Emmett was being a bitch. And poor Mickey was caught in the middle.

This is the point where I have to say, give me a break. Ted was so lip syncing and it just looked so cheezy.

OK Justin, where to start. Its these types of storylines which showcase what a different level Justin is on as opposed to the rest of the cast. He is a young adult who has not found himself yet. This episode reminded me just how young and impressionable Justin really is. BTW, he is so getting into something he will regret later on. His mom and Brian are trying to tell them, but like everyone at that age, he thinks he knows best and will do it anyways. His immaturity is coming through. Though I understand how he gets into this situation given what happened to him.

Best part of course was B/M and the Emmett scene. Go Brian. I just love it when they are protective of each other. Brian reaming Emmett out was great (no pun intended). Emmett was acting so immature and Brian just let him have it for hurting Mickey's feelings. Glad to see Em and Mickey make up in the end.

Vic- Finally getting out from under Deb. This also showcased that Deb needs a life. She lives through either Mickey or Vic.

Other than that, nothing spectacular about this eppie.
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HI guys!

Just before I start my B/M rambles, I just have to say I am also a person who hated Max/Liz together...I liked them the first two seasons and then blah it was BORING! I'm so ANTI-dreamer it's not even funny. Anyways, it's not like I really LOVED the show but the first two seasons were great and s3 was sucky...they ended kinda badly...

Okay, thanks Danielle for the story links...last night I spent a lot of my time trying to read B/M fic cuz my little shipper heart couldn't quit. The sight of Brian and Justin makes me really sad and whenever I see Michael beam when Brian says something really sweet and sentimental makes me happy too.

I definitely want to make a music video sometime soon when I get B/M clips...I was listening to the Serendipity soundtrack and there were two songs that just felt like Brian and Michael.

1. Waiting in Vain by Annie Lennox - all about how Michael can't keep waiting for Brian to wake up and notice that he loves him...so it's now or never.

2. Like lovers do by Heather Nova - it could be told by both POVS but it's all about how they yearn to be together...

I will definitely PM you about the videos cuz now I'm curious...Doesn't Vince and Stuart end up together in the UK series? If they do, then B/M have to too! I mean remember that fortune teller that told Michael that Brian is his true love? Why the hell don't they pay that off? I mean everything else kinda came true too so it IS MEANT TO BE!

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That bitchy blond? You mean Tess? Actually with Roswell (and Max) began my love for slash-fics, so I never shipped him with a girl.

I always thought Lovesong from The Cure was a real B/M song. Recentely I read somewhere that it was used with a B/J scene??? I always ff through those scenes, so the music is lost on me.

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Thanks! [img]smilies/glow.gif[/img] There will be another chapter posted sometime this week.

About Ep. 403 - I must be easy to please, because I enjoyed everything but the bad dubbing for Teddy. Even the cheesy High Noon duel was entertaining.

I loved the Babylon scenes best, of course. I must've replayed Brian and Emmett's argument a dozen times. We haven't seen much of Brian's protectiveness of Michael lately and it's about damn time it resurfaced! Plus, it's fun to see Emmett and Brian square off. I think it's because they're both so... tall.

I also liked the part in the gym with Michael, Ben and Blake. Not only was there gratuitous pec grabbing, but also some nice interaction between Michael and Blake. I love that you can look at Michael and know exactly what he's feeling and when he's in Mother Bear mode, watch out!

Did Brian's artsy photos of the baths cause anyone to flash back to his photo session of Michael? I must go home and watch my Season 2 dvd's. [img]smilies/smirk.gif[/img]
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That bitchy blond? You mean Tess?
That was her name! Couldn't remember it. I wasn't much of a Roswell fan. I watched the first season, then (for me) it went downhill when season 2 started - stopped watching it altogether then.

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Not that I am aware of. *shrugs* Actually, it was the song playing when Justin and Ethan first had sex in 218. Funny thing is, lol, a B/M'er ClaireN, wrote a B/M fic in Season 1 and "love song" was actually used in that. [img]smilies/lol.gif[/img] Great song, isn't it? Love the Cure. If it was used in a B/J scene, lol, that must piss many off - I know it would if I was a fan of theirs.

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Damn right! [img]smilies/lol.gif[/img] I *love* Emmett/Brian scenes...I love that we are seeing *their* friendship being shown a bit...some in Season 3, and again in the first and this past ep of the new season. And yes, Gale must LOVE doing scenes with Peter - since when he works with Hal, Randy and the rest he's usually craning his neck down to see them. [img]smilies/lol.gif[/img]

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I did, but admit that my first thought was of Brian taking the pics for the beer ad he did in season 2 - and that guy wearing the goggles before he uh...well, you know [img]smilies/eyebrows.gif[/img] I always loved the goggles. [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]
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But do you think that, so far, compared to Season 3 it's better?

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Loved the Michael & Hunter scene.
Same here, I really did love seeing that. THAT is what I had been waiting for since Hunter was introduced.

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Really liking Blake for some reason.
Ya, me too. He made it up to me for the way he acting around Ted in the second ep. I've always liked Blake, and prefer this confident version of him rather than the twitchy version.

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Ted was so lip syncing and it just looked so cheezy.
It was SO lame. [img]smilies/rolleyes.gif[/img] I'd rather have heard Scott's real voice - no matter how horrible it is. Hell, I think David Boreanaz's off key, cracking singing voice on "Angel" is *highly* appealing! [img]smilies/sigh.gif[/img]

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This episode reminded me just how young and impressionable Justin really is.
True, and, in a way, he's showing how immature he is for his age. I'm not quite phrasing that correctly, he's not immature as in acting like a child [img]smilies/look.gif[/img] but I mean immature for a what? 21 year old? I dunno..that's what the 21/22/23 year olds I know are saying. [img]smilies/lol.gif[/img] anyway...

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Great minds! [img]smilies/lol.gif[/img] I didn't see this till now, so you do understand what I was saying. I'm truly torn with this storyline - I can't help but be resentful, we've never seen Justin *truly* as an artist (think Claire on "six feet under" if you watch it) and we've never seen him with actual friends, let alone friends his own age. But, we get to see this? It's kind of like, Cowlip totally blew this off for 1 1/2 seasons and pretty much all of Justin's storlines have revolved around Brian. But NOW they're going to bring out all the anger? You mean *shocker* Brian's "sex therapy" didn't actually get rid of all the demons? [img]smilies/rolleyes.gif[/img]

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they ended kinda badly...
How did it end again? I was told, but forget - they all fly off to the home planet as happy couples?

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I understand, wayyyyyyy too much. lol. Glad you enjoyed Anemone's fic - she makes you think, bringing up some interesting views on some matters that make you say, "I never saw it like that! Hmmmm....."

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Doesn't Vince and Stuart end up together in the UK series? If they do, then B/M have to too!
As if I'd answer that and spoil ya! [img]smilies/lol.gif[/img] But no, it doesn't mean that B/M would if S/V did get together. The creator of QaF, Russell Davies, said that (his) QaF was about two best friends who couldn't be without each other. And he likes the US version, not sure about everything but he seems very pleased and I know that he was very happy about the Debbie/Carl romance in Season 3, something he never got to give Vince's mom - a love life. But, No matter what happens with our version of QaF, I *firmly* believe that this is indeed true for Brian and Michael and that even if they weren't too end up together romantically on screen, that possibility would be left for us as it always has been - because it's always going to come back to them. And, like Hal Sparks said, B/M are together already...just not in a way that everyone understands.

Luckily, I do. [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img] Have since #101. [img]smilies/tongue.gif[/img]

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That's Cowlip for ya. [img]smilies/rolleyes.gif[/img] But, like the man said - there's more to this "epic" story and to keep watching. [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]

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Hi Danielle - I think Russell Davies' description of Vince and Stuart perfectly describes what Brian and Michael are to each other...Do you think either one can exist without the other? They'd break down, especially Brian. Even the sight of Mikey off with some guy gets him worked up.

I am definitely becoming the bitter one. I partly regret getting myself wrapped up in a show, get so in love with couple that I can't think straight and now having to be disappointed by them when everything goes wrong...It's like water torture.

As for what the hell CowLip says, I think they are big *****ing teases, that's what. I'm betting that they talk all about "epic" crap but then they don't completely the real impact of B/M or they wouldn't have gone down this path...I was okay with the first seasons, season 3 slightly doable but this season? I feel like I'm gonna be stabbed in the heart. At least last week I wouldn't have cared less if it ended in whatever way Cowlip decided...now I feel physically sick...why can't I just think of it as a tv show? I know. I'm lovesick for B/M and there's no cure...

I don't remember the last time I've ever been this disappointed and freaked out by a couple...at least with others I have hope and now I'm stuck on the other side, lost and with little faith...

BTW, Roswell ended with them having Max/Liz get married and the gang (including the humans who almost all will become part-alien) becoming kinda like hippies in a volkswagon, escaping Roswell and going on the road together, hiding from everybody...whatever, I never cared.

I think I'm gonna watch s1 and read B/M fic thinking about what could be...

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<STRONG>As for what the hell CowLip says, I think they are big *****ing teases, that's what. I'm betting that they talk all about "epic" crap but then they don't completely the real impact of B/M or they wouldn't have gone down this path... </STRONG>
Take heart! The writers are probably succumbing to the "Moonlighting" fear of getting B/M together before the end of the show. B/J fans are fickle and will bail once it happens and they know B/M shippers can wait until the end of the time, as long as we know they'll get together eventually.

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BTW, Roswell ended with them having Max/Liz get married and the gang (including the humans who almost all will become part-alien) becoming kinda like hippies in a volkswagon, escaping Roswell and going on the road together, hiding from everybody...whatever, I never cared. [/QB]
If you go in for this kind of thing, the book A New Beginning - by Kevin Ryan takes place right after they leave Roswell, but way before the Max/Lix wedding. It added a little more closure and it's great for Michael lovers. [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]

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<STRONG>I did, but admit that my first thought was of Brian taking the pics for the beer ad he did in season 2 - and that guy wearing the goggles before he uh...well, you know I always loved the goggles. </STRONG>
[img]smilies/lol.gif[/img] Now who's the perv?! [img]smilies/lol.gif[/img] I loved scuba boy too.
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Old 05-04-2004, 10:56 PM
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It's official people, QaF is coming back for a 5th season. Not that anyone should actually find this as news, I mean - no *****. Did anyone really think that after 3 seasons Showtime was suddenly advertising this show more than ever just to cancel it? Ya right. Anyway....

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Do you think either one can exist without the other? They'd break down, especially Brian. Even the sight of Mikey off with some guy gets him worked up.
Well, let's be honest - anyone can live without anyone. But of course, the romantic in me says no, they couldn't - they'd be miserable and would miss each other greatly. But, Michael would function much better than Brian would, if they were out of each others lives. I honestly don't think they'd ever be truly, really happy unless they were in each other's lives.

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I am definitely becoming the bitter one.
I know. [img]smilies/lol.gif[/img] I need to introduce you to some of my fellow B/M friends who are on the bitterness yahoo group for QaF...lol...you'd love them. Seriously. One of them is the one I turn to for spoilers. [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

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I partly regret it as well, but the pros outweigh the cons.

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I'm lovesick for B/M and there's no cure...
I know how you feel and why. But I do think what they have said is the truth, they've said too many little things and Hal has said a couple of things. What you need to remember is that Cowlip is saying that B/M will be dealt with - all cards on the table, they are not saying that the end result will be them together.

So yes, I do believe it that Cowlip knows exactly what they are doing, what they are saying and we will have some huge development in the B/M department in Season 5 - but the question is what is the end result.

And I don't think, and have never thought, it would make any sense for anything hugely groundbreaking to happen between B/M before the final season...hell, before the last couple of episodes ever! I said it when I first saw 101, and I'm still saying it and believing it after having seen 403.

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I don't remember the last time I've ever been this disappointed and freaked out by a couple
Luke and Lorelai on "Gilmore Girls" - I pretty much stopped watching the show because they were moving even slower than B/M! lol. There was nothing, it was totally and completely ignored and even a recent gossip thingie I read said something about those 2 never, ever, ever getting together. And what happened? Luke wants her. He's going after her. I knew it!! [img]smilies/party.gif[/img] lol. All of the couples I have ever shipped for have gotten together, except for Spike/Willow - but even I knew that was a long shot, ans that was before she came out! [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

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Awwww *hugs* Don't give up! [img]smilies/nono.gif[/img] Gotta stay strong! Think positive! i will motivate you! [img]smilies/blinkie.gif[/img]

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[img]smilies/lol.gif[/img] Now who's the perv?! [img]smilies/lol.gif[/img] I loved scuba boy too.</STRONG>
[img]smilies/rotfl.gif[/img] Now, now - that's not pervy, that's practical. [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img] Gotta protect the eyes! [img]smilies/cool.gif[/img] Ever see the movie "Trick"? There's a scene in it where this drag queen tells the one character about this time he uh, didn't protect his eyes and that it stings! A lot!

See? Practical. [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]

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HI ya...

I'm trying to think positive here Danielle I really am but it's hard to think that way cuz of the abundant amount of B/J love I am surrounded by...I am always known as a UC shipper (I mean I ship Lorelai/Dean too so go figure) so I at least I don't dream of it happening but B/M isn't really UC in a sense, it's just untapped potential...it's supposed to happen...I can't stop believing in it cuz I don't think I could love the show the way I do if I lost all hope.

Yes, I think I need to find other likeminded people like us cuz right now you're the only person who really understands my plight...I mean my own sister is a Brian/Justin (which shouldn't be a surprise to me cuz she's always shipped completely opposite of me) so that kinda sucks (although she does like B/M to an extent...the only thing we agree on is our UC love for Michael/Justin but that's another story completely).

I hope CowLip isn't just playing with us...I hope they truly know what they are doing cuz I'm at the bitter stage where I don't believe a word a creator of a tv show says. A lot of them (think Jason Katims) just ***** up their own tv show and lose sight of what the show is about...I don't know why but it happens. B/M is the centerpiece of the show so don't lose sight of that.

I like how you said you shipped Spike/Willow...coolness! I liked them too but I never really dreamed of them truly being together...just liked to imagine them...and Luke/Lorelai, I love them too...I think if you tuned in these days, there is more of a likeliness that it's going happen...I mean tonight's episode is proof of that...what other ships did you ship/or do you ship? I'm interested in what other shows that you watch...as for me, just check out my site Love Stories and you'll know exactly who I ship...I'm all over the board on ships but I think as I get older, I'm more and more UC every time or at least the ones that have this unsparked potential just waiting to erupt.

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That was her name! Couldn't remember it. I wasn't much of a Roswell fan. I watched the first season, then (for me) it went downhill when season 2 started - stopped watching it altogether then.
I have all three seasons on cd but my interest in Roswell (besides some fics from some great writers) has declined considerably. The first season is available on DVD now but I have no desire to get it (my bank account thanks me). [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

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Actually, it was the song playing when Justin and Ethan first had sex in 218. Funny thing is, lol, a B/M'er ClaireN, wrote a B/M fic in Season 1 and "love song" was actually used in that. Great song, isn't it? Love the Cure. If it was used in a B/J scene, lol, that must piss many off - I know it would if I was a fan of theirs.
Yeah, the Cure is one of my favorites. And you're right, it was a E/J scene (which I also ff, actually every scene with J is a ff-scene [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]).

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Take heart! The writers are probably succumbing to the "Moonlighting" fear of getting B/M together before the end of the show. B/J fans are fickle and will bail once it happens and they know B/M shippers can wait until the end of the time, as long as we know they'll get together eventually.
I agree. If B/M happen it will be at the end, b/c the B/Jers can't take it and will eventually go [img]smilies/spineyes.gif[/img] [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]

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Awwww *hugs* Don't give up! Gotta stay strong! Think positive! i will motivate you!
Thanks to you and some others I'm still somewhat positive for B/M to get together or at least that Brian will be free from the bold one. [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]
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<STRONG> It's official people, QaF is coming back for a 5th season. Not that anyone should actually find this as news, I mean - no *****. Did anyone really think that after 3 seasons Showtime was suddenly advertising this show more than ever just to cancel it? Ya right. Anyway....</STRONG>
but still... YAY!!! [img]smilies/blinkie.gif[/img] This just adds weight to our belief that B/M will have time to get together by the end of the series. Except, I hear there's only going to be 13 episodes. What's up with that?! They should be adding in more not cutting back!

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<STRONG> Ever see the movie "Trick"? There's a scene in it where this drag queen tells the one character about this time he uh, didn't protect his eyes and that it stings! A lot! See? Practical.</STRONG>
[img]smilies/wink.gif[/img] I rely upon these tips to make it through life. I haven't seen that movie (and now I have to!) but I do remember something from the movie "Old School" that had to do with that. [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] Must add protective eye wear to my shopping list...
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