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'Cause Luke knows the romantic way, damn it! ~ Java Junkies ~ 129 Ways
^Look at our pretty new banner made by Kristi! Welcome Java Junkies! Welcome to the 129th Java Junkie thread! All you lurkers and newbies come join us for the celebration of the 4 years in the making ESKs (end of season kisses)! Title by Cheryl. Once again refering to the season finale (Raincoats and Recipes). This time where Luke is ranting (hee, we love ranting!Luke) about showing his intentions through his actions, 'Cause that's the romantinc way to to do it, damn it! If you missed it or just want to watch it over and over and over....you can download the kisses here Other ESK sources http://talented.330.ca/recipes.html http://img25.photobucket.com/albums/...01/llkiss1.jpg http://img4.photobucket.com/albums/0...a/llkiss2b.jpg If you want something added to the intro or have a request, please PM Genevieve Come visit our thread website: Guilty Pleasure Don't forget to go sign the Java Junkie Guest Map! This JJ disease has infected the whole world. ************* L/L Moments...from the beginning [List by: Kay ] Season One The Pilot -L/L's first exchange. "Junkie." "Angel. You've got wings, baby." -The first "you look good" between L/L. The Lorelais First Day at Chilton -Our first glimpse at JealousLuke. Rory's Birthday Parties -"Will you marry me?" "What?" "Just looking for something to shut you up" Aw, how sweet. -We get out first L/L hug. Bow chicka bow wow! Forgiveness and Stuff -Luke comes to the rescue when Richard ends up in the hospital. -The second "you look good", this time, from Lorelai to Luke. -Our second L/L hug. -Third "you look good" from Luke to Lorelai at the end of the episode. Double Date -Luke almost asks out Lorelai, but Mrs. Kim barges into the diner, ruining the moment. -Sweet "is there something more here?" look from Lorelai to Luke at the end of the episode. Concert Interruptus -Cute L/L scene at the end, where Luke apologizes to Lorelai for yelling at her about wearing Rachel's sweatshirt. That Damn Donna Reed -AlmostKiss between Luke and Lorelai. -Invitation to come over her house and "look for a chick" Christopher Returns -Lorelai paints the diner for Luke. Star Crossed Lovers and Other Strangers -Lorelai and Luke share a moment at the Firelight Festival, talking about Rachel. "Is she staying?" "I don't know" "Do you want her to?" "I don't know" Emily in Wonderland -Rachel asks Luke if Lorelai's eyes are beautiful, and he says they're very symmetrical. Cue awkward moment. -Luke gets clumsy around Lorelai, and overfills her coffee cup. -Lorelai asks Luke to take a risk and go for what's "right in front of him". "Unless there's some other reason" "Like what?" "Like, I don't know" "There's no other reason" "Ok, well, fine, then, there's no other reason" ...AND THE REASON IS YOU -Our first glimpse at JealousLorelai, who watches Luke and Rachel laugh and smile at the end of the episode. P.S., I Lo.. -Lorelai buys clothes for Luke. -Luke parades around in the clothes Lorelai bought him, and she is pleasantly surprised with how hot he looks. -L/L are caught by Rachel with Lorelai adjusting Luke's belt. Cue awkward moment. Love, Daisies, and Troubadours -Luke is fixing Lorelai's porch rail at 630 in the morning, and she's not too happy. -Lorelai talks with Luke about avoiding Rachel. -Lorelai gives Luke a flower at the end of the episode. Season Two Sadie, Sadie -Lorelai is upset when Luke doesn't seem more upset that she's getting married to Max. Hammers and Veils -Luke shows up at Lorelai's engagement party, and they share a sweet smile, where he winks at her. There's cute little flower girls sitting next to Luke. Foreshadowing? Red Light on the Wedding Night -Luke builds Lorelai a chuppah for her wedding. -L/L have a talk about "finding that one person". -They end up standing underneath the chuppah together. -Lorelai decides to not marry Max at the end of the episode, not too long after talking to Luke. Like Mother, Like Daughter -Our second glimpse of JealousLorelai, when a woman at the DAR fashion show is flirting with him. -Lorelai tells Luke not to date the DAR woman, to which he responds that it's none of her business. He also says that he was just giving the woman directions. Run Away, Little Boy -Lorelai makes it clear to Luke that he is one of the few people that will always be there for her, and who she will always be there for. A Tisket, a Tasket -Luke bids on Lorelai's basket, and they end up having a picnic together. Luke admits that it's nice, just as Dean comes up to talk to Lorelai, ruining the moment. Lost and Found -Lorelai pretends to be Luke's girlfriend, and is really flirty with him as they're looking at an apartment for Luke. The realtor says, "if my husband and I looked anything like the two of you, we’d never get dressed" Dead Uncles and Vegetables -Lorelai helps Luke out when his uncle dies. -Lorelai lets Luke know that he isn't a loner, and that he's a great guy. Teach Me Tonight -L/L get in a huge fight about Jess. It ends with them both telling each other to go to hell. Season Three Those Lazy, Hazy, Crazy Days -Lorelai dreams that she's married to Luke, and that they kiss, and she's having twins. -L/L make up at the end of the episode. They Shoot Gilmores, Don't They? -Luke fixes Lorelai's shoe for her, and they share a moment, where they talk about kids, and Luke says, "if I ever happen to meet the right person. . .well, it would be a discussion" Lorelai says, "if I ever happen to meet the right person, another kid might be nice" They stare at each other. A Deep Fried Korean Thanksgiving -Lorelai brings Luke flowers for Thanksgiving, and they bicker like an old married couple. Lorelai Out of Water -Luke teaches Lorelai how to fish. They share a moment when she tells him about Alex. Dear Emily and Richard -Lorelai meets Nicole for the first time, and gets to see Luke all dressed up and sexy for his date with Nicole. -Lorelai and Luke have some sort of weird handfight. A Tale of Poes and Fire -Lorelai sleeps over Luke's when the inn catches fire, and there's no room at her house to sleep. -Luke reveals that he talked about Lorelai on a date with Nicole. -Lorelai tells Luke about the dream she had. LORELAI: It's the alarm clock. I had a dream once that you set eighteen alarm clocks to get me up, which is not a bad way to get me up. LUKE: Where were we? LORELAI: We were, um, at my house. I got up, I went downstairs for coffee, and you talked to my stomach. LUKE: Why on earth I do that? LORELAI: Well, because I was pregnant. Twins. LUKE: Mine? LORELAI: What am I, dream tramp? Of course yours. LUKE: We were married? LORELAI: Um, yeah. Did I not mention that? LUKE: No. You know, you shouldn't drink coffee when you're pregnant. LORELAI: Uh, true. LUKE: It's probably why Rory's a caffeine addict. LORELAI: Right, you're right. LUKE: Dream go beyond that? LORELAI: No. Um, you talked to my stomach and then you ki. . .well, no. LUKE: Oh, okay. Well. . .night. LORELAI: Yeah, night. Those are Strings, Pinocchio -L/L talk about Luke going on the cruise with Nicole. She tells him to go, and he asks, "Really? You think that's okay considering. . .I don't know. . .everything?" -Luke dreams that Lorelai tells him not to go on the cruise. Season Four Ballrooms and Biscotti -Luke tells Lorelai that he got married to Nicole while on the cruise. He also tells her that they're planning on getting a divorce. The Fundamental Things Apply -Lorelai invites Luke over to watch a movie at her house. -Luke falls asleep, and, in the morning, Rory says that he looks good there, and Lorelai responds with, "yeah, he does" In the Clamor and the Clanger -Lorelai gets mad at Luke for not telling her that he moved to Litchfield with Nicole. -L/L break the bells in the church together, and Lorelai admits that she doesn't want Luke to move, because she cares. Nag Hammadi Is Where They Found the Gnostic Gospels -Lorelai finds Luke drunk in her house, fixing her broken window, so, she helps him out. -Luke gives Lorelai earrings that Liz made, even though Liz told him to give them to his wife, or Lorelai. The Incredible Shrinking Lorelais -Luke comforts Lorelai when she has a meltdown. -Luke offers to loan Lorelai a huge amount of money for the inn. Luke Can See Her Face -Luke asks Lorelai to go to Liz's wedding with him, and she says yes. Last Week Fights, This Week Tights -L/L share a sweet dance at Liz's wedding. -Lorelai admits that her favorite part of the night was the dance. -Luke asks Lorelai out, and she says yes. Raincoats and Recipes -Lorelai gets all clumsy around Luke. -Luke brings Lorelai flowers for the opening of the Dragonfly. -L/L kiss. Twice. And, it's gooooooood. *********** Also By Kay: Number of times someone has questioned whether or not L/L are just friends-9 1-Emily to Lorelai in "Rory's Birthday Parties" EMILY: And this man with the ice. LORELAI: Luke. EMILY: How long have you been seeing him? LORELAI: Luke? I'm not seeing Luke. He's just a friend. EMILY: Mm-hmm. LORELAI: Mom, I swear. Luke keeps me in coffee, nothing else. EMILY: He seems to like you. LORELAI: And you're judging this by what? EMILY: By they way he looked at you. LORELAI: Which is how? EMILY: Like you were about to give him a lap dance. LORELAI: Mom, he did not look at me like that. EMILY: You're pleased. LORELAI: What? EMILY: You smiled. You're pleased that the ice man looked at you like a Porterhouse steak. LORELAI: I'm smiling because you're crazy and that's what you do to crazy people to keep them calm. 2-Emily to Luke in "Forgiveness and Stuff" EMILY: So what exactly is going on between the two of you? LUKE: Nothing. Really. We’re friends, that’s it. EMILY: You’re idiots, the both of you. 3-Sookie to Lorelai in "Concert Interruptus" LORELAI: I never pictured Luke with an Elle MacPherson kind of pretty. SOOKIE: No? Pictured him more with a Lorelai Gilmore kind of pretty? LORELAI: Oh, the air up here must be very thin because you’re delirious. SOOKIE: And you’re jealous. LORELAI: What? SOOKIE: You’re jealous of Rachel. LORELAI: You’re accusing me of being jealous of a woman who dumped a man I’m not even interested in five years ago? SOOKIE: Yes. LORELAI: And you don’t think that’s crazy? SOOKIE: Oh I do think that’s crazy? LORELAI: Right, I’m not jealous. SOOKIE: Yeah you are. 4-Sookie to Lorelai in "That Damn Donna Reed" LORELAI: What is your point? SOOKIE: My point is that you called Luke. Out of all the people in town that you could have called that would have come over and dropped what they were doing, you called Luke. LORELAI: Because I had just been with him. We were picking out paint samples. He was on my mind. It was purely a timing thing. SOOKIE: Picking out samples. LORELAI: Yes. SOOKIE: For Luke's place. LORELAI: Yes. SOOKIE: So you could paint together. LORELAI: Once again, yes! SOOKIE: Mm-hmm. Which I believe was your idea. LORELAI: OK, so now the fact that I suggested painting Luke's diner also means that I wanted to get him in bed. All of a sudden I'm trying to get any poor, unsuspecting person in bed with me. I'm like -- I'm Michael Douglas! SOOKIE: Lorelai. This -- LORELAI: Just -- thanks for the omelette. SOOKIE: No, honey, I'm sorry. I don't want you to be mad. Don't be mad at me. LORELAI: I'm not mad, I'm not mad. I'm tired. SOOKIE: OK. You know, Luke is a really nice man. LORELAI: Bye, Sookie. 5-Emily to Lorelai in "That Damn Donna Reed" EMILY: This man was at Rory's birthday party, he came to the hospital with you, he's the male lead in every story you tell, you go to the diner every single day. I've seen the way he looks at you, the way you look at him. I'm not a fool. LORELAI: Mom, please. EMILY: Why do you treat me like I don't have a clue in the world as to what is going on in your life? Now I'm asking you, as a favor, if you have any respect for me at all as your mother, just tell me. Do you have feelings for this man? LORELAI: I don't know. Maybe I do. I haven't given it much thought. Maybe I do. EMILY: Thank you. I'm glad you were finally honest with me. Now we can discuss what on earth you could possibly be thinking. Don't forget the ice. 6-Rachel to Luke in "Love, Daisies, and Troubadours" RACHEL: The other girl isn't for me Luke, it's for you. LUKE: Okay. Now that's crazy. RACHEL: Yeah? LUKE: Yeah. RACHEL: No. LUKE: You feel you need a different excuse this time to mix things up a little, fine. But you are not leaving because of me. RACHEL: I'm sure you tried Luke. But admit it, you're heart wasn't in it. LUKE: My heart was in it. I was here, I didn't leave. . . .I don't get this. RACHEL: Luke. LUKE: And what are you talking about, another girl. What other girl? (Rachel stares at him) Oh Rachel, no, you don't mean. . . She and I are just friends. I told you that a thousand times. RACHEL: No. You told it to me once. And you could barely get it out then. LUKE: Okay, this is crazy. You've got it wrong here. It's not. . .She and I are. . .uh. . . RACHEL: I'm gonna go. I'll miss you (she hugs him goodbye) Stay in touch. LUKE: Rachel, come on. (Rachel walks to the door and stops. She turns around to look at Luke.) RACHEL: So don't wait too long okay. LUKE: To what? RACHEL: To tell her. (Rachel leaves.) 7-Rory to Lorelai in "Sadie, Sadie" LORELAI: This is crazy. Why is everybody making such a big deal about this? RORY: Because everyone knows that Luke has a thing for you. LORELAI: Luke does not have a thing for me. 8-Sookie to Lorelai in "Run Away, Little Boy" LORELAI: Although, I gotta tell ya, I am still pretty peeved by how he acted earlier. I swear, that guy runs so hot and cold on me. SOOKIE: What? LORELAI: Well, one minute he's all sweet and building me a chuppah, and the next he's being a total jerk for God knows what reason. SOOKIE: For God knows what reason? Come on Lorelai. LORELAI: What? SOOKIE: Don't you understand that Luke is so into you? LORELAI: Okay, stop. SOOKIE: He has had to watch you go from one guy to another, and then the engagement, and then the engagement was off, and patiently he's waited. And now in walks this kid and he says, 'My God, will she date anyone else in the world before she'll date me?' LORELAI: Sookie, that? SOOKIE: Hey, maybe it's crazy, maybe it's irrational, but it's there. Just look the guy in the eye, it's right there. 9-Jess to Luke in "One's Got Class, and the Other One Dyes" JESS: Hey, the girls that I like don’t give a damn about me! And unlike some other people I know, I’m not gonna sit around hoping that they change their minds and suddenly notice me. LUKE: What’s that supposed to mean? JESS: You fixed any neighbor’s porches lately? Or you go on a picnic or you get rooked into giving a ridiculous speech at a high school? LUKE: Shut up. JESS: At least I’ve got a little self-esteem. LUKE: Shut up. JESS: I’m not playing Golden Retriever, hoping one day she’ll turn around and fall in my arms. If she doesn’t wanna be with me, then fine. LUKE: You have no idea what you’re talking about. ************* Java Junkie Timeline At the moment, it's not here. I'll be up again soon The Java Junkie Stamp The Java Junkie ESK Song 'Cause we're rootin for an ESK I hope we get one by the end of May ASP better listen to what we say Luke and Lorelai all the way Because four years is too long we know cause one of us made up a song and thats just really sad especially because its so damn bad oh, ASP why won't / you just give us what we want? We know their perfect together / so why you gotta flaunt? We have toolboxes, baby chicks, casablanca and other flicks A JJ stamp, a JJ song, an offical game, how can you go wrong? So for the last time we declare With an evil Java Junkie stare Please give us our End of the Season Kiss And fill our JJ hearts with joy and bliss One last thing before this song is over MMS needs to come by October A wedding should come soon there after Mixed in with a baby's laughter 'Cause we're rootin for an ESK I hope we get one by the end of May ASP better listen to what we say Luke and Lorelai all the way! By: Emily The Mad Monkey Sex Song Also By: Emily One moan, two moan, three moan, four. Who's that bang-bangin' on the floor? It's Luke and Lorelai demonstarting MMS Putting their backs and their lungs to the test In, out, up, down, and all around Taylor's in his soda shop wondering "what the hells that sound?" Creak, crack, whip, slap, and handcuffs too MMS the way we want it - till their faces are blue ASP you gave us the coveted ESK Now give us some MMS - the JJ Thread way We don't want the scene to fade to black when things heat up we wanna see Luke's hot sweaty body right before they ! Dirt on his hands, dirt on her knees Tearing at clothes and pulling on sleeves Mad Monkey Sex coming at full speed And when we say coming, we mean coming indeed! The Java Junkie song! "All you newbies, and the lurkers. Grab some coffees, don't be Tay-lers. Step on the daisy, don't be lazy. IV the caffiene, we're not mean. Scream some STELLA!!, it's ok to yell--a!" "Goodbye lovers of the past, like Jason, Chris, Alex... Oh yes, we've forgotten Max. Don't forget Rachel and Nicole, does anything even rythme with Nicole! Say hello to a new start, Luke and Lorelai...wouldn't an end of season kiss be smart." "Just grab yer earrings and grab yer chuppas, all you junkies and all you townies, we're wishing for a kiss this season...today!" By: Elisabeth The Java Junkie Official Game Bagel Hockey Positions: Lorelai - Offense Rory - Defense Luke - Goalie The Java Junkie To-The-Point Thread Rules! Be sure to check out the GG board rules first! (Thanks to our great mods) 1. No spoilers! Simple as that! 2. Be careful with Max, Christopher, and Jason bashing! 3 Try to stay on topic... we could have used this rule during the corn fiasco! You can be OT, but keep the Luke and Lorelai love in mind! 4. Respect each other! 'Cause all we need is a little R-E-S-P-E-C-T! 5. Drink coffee. Lots and lots of it! (but don't take from the secret stash) If you have any concerns, don't be afraid to bring it up! The Java Junkie Theories JavaSex Theory Luke keeps Lorelai in coffee, nothing else. We all know coffee is Lorelai's biggest pleasure. So possibly when she wasn't "gettin any" of Luke's special "coffee," she turned to life's second greatest pleasure...sex. Christopher just happened to be the first warm body to be in her vacinity while she going through her Luke's Coffee Deprivation Period. ~credit: Alexis ~name: Kitty Name Game In LHCD - Lor defines the whole package as "Love, Comfort & Safety." Look below -Coincidence? I think not. L=love U=understanding C=comfort A=and S=safety credit: Gluglug The Java Junkie Smilies! The Angel, Luke ----> The Junkie, Lorelai ----> The Java Junkie Mascots! "STELLAAAA!!" "Goodnight, Bert!" "It has a hat and everything!" "No one has ever made me a chuppah before." 'Cause one day it won't be a dream! Reasons Why We Love Luke and Lorelai! 1-100 101-200 201-300 301. 'Cause progress is a bitch! 302. 'Cause they won't have an affair, but they still want each other. 303. 'Cause the sparkle's gone in his eye... and its her fault 304. 'Cause Luke is conversationally committed! 305. 'Cause Luke's committed to one woman... and it's not his wife. 306. 'Cause he's her knight in shining armor. 307. 'Cause she thinks he's The Good One. 308. 'Cause Luke gave Lorelai the earrings -instead of his wife. 309. 'Cause she's all dressed up - just for him. 310. 'Cause you can't help but fall in love with them 311. 'Cause We're starting to get disgruntled. 312. 'Cause she's got his arms around her waist. 313. 'Cause we're patiently waiting for The Dance. 314. 'Cause she's a lot of work, but he loves her anyway. 315. 'Cause they look like they're about to kiss when they dance. 316. 'Cause he finally asked her out...and she has no idea. 317. 'Cause we wanna know what he'll put in her mouth next! 318. 'Cause a dance and a kiss is a good way to start 319. 'Cause he told her she looks beautiful 320. 'Cause Luke and Lorelai spell perfection 321. 'Cause he finally freakin' realized his feelings 322. 'Cause we FINALLY got an ESK! 323. 'Cause Luke and Lorelai finally kissed! 324. 'Cause the kiss was hot!! 325. 'Cause they are both finally standing still 326. 'Cause we know that third kiss would have led to MMS! 327. 'Cause it's not jumping the shark, it's long overdue! 328. 'Cause she wasn't taken, but now she is. 329. 'Cause Luke knows the romantic way, damn it! The Java Junkie List of Thread Somethings Part of Java Junkie tradition, with each new thread #, we have L/L items to go with it! 1 Luke and Lorelai 2 Santa Burgers 3 Blue Hats 4 Lucky Cards 5 Chicks 6 Coffee Mugs/Paintbrushes 7 Pickles 8 Toolboxes 9 Cornstalks 10 Broken Locks 11 Handkerchieves 12 Empty Threats 13 Porterhouse Steaks 14 Lemon Lamps 15 Bags of Ice 16 Longing Looks 17 Cans of Paint 18 Frilly Curtains 19 Black Leather Belts 20 Chuppas 21 Danishes 22 Goats 23 Runways 24 Sleigh Rides 25 Messenger Boys 26 Flirts 27 Popsicles 28 AlmostKisses 29 GutterThoughts 30 Fishnet Stockings 31 Loan Offers 32 Picnic Baskets 33 Brownies 34 Goalies 35 Subtle Glances 36 Non-Denials 37 Pet Names 38 Double Beds 39 Pancakes 40 Falling Ceilings 41 Omelettes 42 Chocolate Brownies 43 Apologies 44 Party Poses 45 Daily Pleasures 46 Heatwaves 47 Horizontal Tangos 48 Long Summers 49 Mental Kicks 50 Parties 51 Reconciliations 52 Cards 53 Soulmates 54 Insinuations 55 Masquerades 56 Realizations 57 Mini Fics 58 Metaphors 59 Dreams 60 Donuts 61 Moments of Silence 62 Packages 63 Things 64 Rubber Ducks 65 Love Songs 66 Propositions 67 Discussions 68 Hands 69 Sexual References 70 Devoted Fans 71 Hammers - Dirty! 72 JJ Cheers 73 Games 74 Sexy Toys 75 Beautiful Dreamers 76 White Dresses 77 Special Spoons 78 Gloves 79 Fishing Rods 80 Reasons 81 Leans 82 Twins 83 Sleepovers 84 Assets 85 Alarm Clocks 86 Futures 87 Touches 88 Dirty! 89 Addictions 90 Jealous Rages 91 Get-On-With-It's 92 Late Night Specials 93 Luke's Married?! 94 Enganches 95 Tornadoes 96 Mattresses 97 Gut Feelings 98 Movie Nights 99 Eat A Burger! 100 Celebrations 101 Rendevous 102 No Names 103 Diner Conversations 104 Earrings 105 Bonnie & Clydes 106 Roses 107 Confessions 108 Gifts 109 Flirtations 110 Parties/Second Chances 111 Still Waitings 112 Not so funny thens 113 Touches 114 Soulmates 115 Compliments 116 Close and Comfortables 117 Chores 118 Wishes 119 Bites 120 Zucchinis 121 Epiphanies 122 Slow Motion Replays 123 Dates and Makeout Sessions 124 Cold Showers 125 Big Things, WOW things 126 Raincoats 127 Kisses 128 Sexy Stares 129 Ways Future Possible Thread Titles 'Cause who cares if it was just a dream, we got a KISS! 'Cause we know that's how it'll be when they're together 'Cause Rory spoke the truth! 'Cause he'll be *home* early 'Cause we know that's how it'll be when they're together 'Cause we finally got a kiss! And not one, three! 'Cause Chris is no longer in the picture! 'Cause Luke agrees with Kirk's taste in women (strangely enough) 'Cause now that we got a kiss, we want more 'Cause they just look right together. What else do you need 'Cause Rory was right the first time~-- explanations 'Cause she's having his dream babies~-- offspring 'Cause there's more to love! ~-- heads 'Cause if clocks weren't a symbol of love before, he made them one ~-- clocks 'Cause logically, he loves Mimi too~ -- "new" customers Java Junkie Keeperships Kitty: Luke's hat, Bert (toolbox), Luke and Lorelai's first real kiss, Flowers Lor gives Luke ever Thanksgiving, Lorelai Gilmore, Luke's hungry look that he gave Lorelai before the kiss, The first 'I love you' between Luke and Lorelai. Di Di: L/L's dreamkiss, Luke & Lor's honeymoon, Movie that Luke & Lor go to see on their first date. CherylS: Luke's hammer Nutters: Stella, Rose Lorelai gave to Luke in 'Scene In a Mall', Luke's plates for the girls' pie in 'Scene in a Mall', L&L (the L with the & and the L) Emily: Chuppah, The first L/L MMS moment, Wedding, and Wedding Song; Luke and Lorelai: The Couple (married and/or boyfriend and girlfriend) *~Alissa~*: Santa Burger Cher: Luke's truck, Luke's fishing rod LukeLorelai4EVER: Luke & Lorelai's almost kiss in TDDR Mandy: Lorelai's ice skates that Luke polished for her in 'Cinnamon's Wake', 'Thank You' napkin from Lorelai to Luke in 'Scene in a Mall', The walk and the 'Moment' from LWFTWT, The porch of the Dragonfly, The proposal Sharla: Luke's Coffee, Luke's soft "yes" to Lor in 'Ballroom & Biscotti' and Barbie Bandaids Genevieve: the earrings Luke gave to Lorelai in NHIWTFTGG, Luke's 'You look Beautiful' to Lorelai, The to-do lists from LCSHF, Lucky Room/Door #7 from R&R ReeMaria: L/L's first dance, and the song played during the dance, Luke & Lorelai's leather jackets from Poes and Fire, The Diner -Tina- : the L/L look in the promo, the bed that Luke let Lor sleep in and sleeps in himself, L/L stare and smiles during the staring-at-my-salad scene Horizon: Luke's plaid shirt Valerina: the song playing when L&L finally kiss, The Danish Luke feeds Loralai in Afterboom; Luke and Lorelai: The Offspring., future MMS in the Dragonfly Van Kwistina: Luke Danes The broken toaster and 'no cell phones' sign in the Diner; suncharm682: The coffee cups Luke gives Lorelai to drink out of. MsHighStrung: - The Moment When Lorelai Gets a Clue, Stars Hollow's Reaction to L/L as a Couple JavaAngel: L/L's first "real" date i heart jai: The word Dirty! Janetmaca: the self-help tapes that gave Luke his epiphany Startstruck: The flowers Luke gives to Loralai in the promo, the zucchini from LCSHF Elspeth the Wicked: The alarm clocks DreamLuke set to wake DreamLorelai up. The birth of the name Java Junkie: when Luke says "Junkie" and Lorelai responds, "Angel. You've got wings, baby." The dream twins of L/L: Sid/Leopold and Nancy/Loeb froukje: Lorelai's arms during the ESK Scubagurl: the smug look Luke's going to give Jason next time he sees him. Gaelicmaiden: Luke Holding Lorelai in Bed Arista: the belt that Lorelai bought for Luke in "P.S. I Lo... Niuxita: Lorelai's crashes against the table at the diner, the door at the inn and the waiter, the initial L/L post-kiss awkwardness Java Junkie Quotes .. these are quotes from GG or any other source that we feel are JJ worthy! **I love you. And not in a friendly way, although I think we're great friends. And not in a misplaced affection, puppy-dog way, although I'm sure that's what you'll call it. And it's not because you're unattainable. I love you. Very simply, very truly. You're the epitome of every attribute and quality I've ever looked for in another person. ~Chasing Amy **LORELAI: I'm talking about a lady friend. LUKE: Oh. LORELAI: A red-hot mama. LUKE: Okay. LORELAI: A big, pretty dish of lovin' with a spoon made especially for you. ~Lost And Found **LUKE: ..But we both agreed that there's nothing like some good lovin' to shut a person up, if you know what I mean. Java Junkie Fanart Here are some great Java Junkie Fanart! Thanks to Carmen for this great idea! One Cold Canadian Bajo2005 Denise Denise Christy Christy Cheryl Cheryl Kwistina Kwistina luscious-kiss.net luscious-kiss.net Kwistina Java Junkie FanFics Luke/Lorelai fiction recommended by you and your fellow junkies. Legend: Expresso (for fics that are not primarily L/L ) , Steaming Cup (for NC-17 or R ones), to Hazelnut Heaven (for primarily L/L fics). STORIES *16 Going On 35 by bachelorgirl aka Elisabeth *HH* *Jessie by Kasey22 *EX* *And They Danced & The Long Road Home by daydreamer4 *HH* *Spoiler Warning* *Scavenger Hunt By Steph5 *EX* *Any Other Day by LegalBlonde *HH* *Baby by Sarah9 *HH* *What the Sock Man Saw by justwords *EX* *We're Playing Hardball Now by AstaLaila *EX* *Cheeseburger in Paradise by aliasrose *EX* *It‘s Right There & It‘s Still There by CoffeeDrinker *HH* *The Longest Walk of Their Lives by JJ Addict aka Cheryl *HH* *Togetherness by crazy-dreams *HH* *A Day in the Life by Anjali Organna *EX* *See Me by kinofille *HH* *Emily in Wonderland Part 2 by bachelorgirl aka Elisabeth *HH* *Three Fairy ’Stars Hollow?Tales by bachelorgirl aka Elisabeth *EX* *Screw misery, keep ME company! & Finally by Kristi908 aka Kwistina, Kristi, Krizzle... *HH* AUTHORS (we love everything they write) *Netherfield *gluglug *Connecticut Junkie *CoffeDrinker *dukesmom *Serenity Goddess *d - nise *Luke Rules *Mandy Renay *Parvulissula aka Jo *Kristi908 aka Kwistina *jj addict aka CherylS *Kaybee aka Kay THREAD MINI FICS Gutter fics inspired by our favorite couple! *Warning: These are primarily Rated R and NC-17* Heatwave ver. 1 Heatwave ver. 2 Whipped Cream ver. 1 Whipped Cream ver. 2 Pool Party JealousLorelai Under The Mistletoe Painting Stuck Shower 1 Shower 2 Karaoke How it should have gone Movie Night Halloween Ball Late Night Meeting Secret Santas Handcuffs *unfinished* Pancake Day Dreams Snowball Fight FIC WEBSITES Stars-Hollow.net The Chilton Library Gilmore Girls Fanfiction Archive Laura’s GG Fan Fiction GilmoreGirlsAdultFic FanFiction.net JavaJunkie Index Java Junkie Songs Java Junkie Song List Compiled by the the ever wonderful Mandy! If you have any additions you want to make, just PM or IM her. Java Junkie Videos Emily-What Should Have Happened Cheryl-At the Beginning Cheryl-When the Lights Go Down Cheryl-Why Can't They? Cheryl-Stars Hollow Angel Black Lake Cindy-I had the time of my life Cindy-Eclipse of the heart Cindy-Thank God I found you Cindy-Together forever Java Junkie Websites Java Obsessions Java Junkies.net Off the Wall Just Friends DreamTramp Guilty Pleasure (Our Thread Website) Now retired: The ESK SUPPORTERS List *ESK: End of Season Kiss* We got our wish on May 18th, 2004 #1 ~~CherylS~~ #2 Nutters #3 Mare C #4 * Genevieve * #5 sharla #6 ~Kitty #7 ESipher #8 ReeMaria #9 Mandy Renay #10 Çheri?£u£u #11 Valerina #12 Kwistina #13 - Tina - #14 *Steffie* #15 dkimes #16 MsHighStrung #17 ~Nicole~ #18 elduccia #19 jennarose #20 A. B. Normal #21 **Maddy** #22 LukeLorelai4EVER #23 Startstruck #24 suncharm682 #25 Janetmaca #26 Imaginary_Immortal #27 Lorelai Obsessed #28 i heart jai #29 ~-Sarah-~ #30 Elspeth the Wicked #31 WBFreak #32 Debbie555 #33 *Arista* #34 Nanda #35 *Sarah Marie* On to bigger and better things.... Java Junkie MMS Supporters *MMS: Mad Monkey Sex* #1 Esipher #2 NaturallyNawlins #3 * Genevieve * #4 Parvulissula #5 Nutters #6 sharla #7 ~~ CherylS ~~ #8 Çheri?£u£u #9 under the table and dreaming #10 ~Kitty #11 Melinda Marie #12 *Kay* #13 Nate the Lizaphile #14 suncharm682 #15 Mandy Renay #16 Valerina #17 Kwistina #18 - Tina - #19 *Steffie* #20 dkimes #21 MsHighStrung #22 ~Nicole~ #23 elduccia #24 jennarose #25 A. B. Normal #26 **Maddy** #27 LukeLorelai4EVER #28 Startstruck #29 Janetmaca #30 ~-Sarah-~ #31 Elspeth the Wicked #32 WBFreak #33 Debbie555 #34 *Arista* #35 Nanda #36 -Alex- #37 bballplayer30 #38 hyde&jackie1991 #39 Emma #40 Jen2003 #41 scubagurl #42 mimi mojo java #43 Niuxita #44 Luke&Lor4-ever Places where MMS should take place *the counter in the diner *the storage room *Luke's apartment *Luke's truck *the bridge *Lorelai's roof *under the chuppah *the gazebo *the stable at the Inn *her old room at Emily's (so she would finally have a good memory there) *Lorelai's jeep *Luke's shower *Lorelai's shower *Lorelai's kitchen *The roof of the diner/apartment *the Honeymoon suite at the Inn *Lucky room #7 at the Inn ILY Supporters *ILY: I Love You* (when Luke and/or Lorelai says "I love you") #1. Kwistina #2. Esipher #3. -Tina- #4. Sick And Twisted. #5. Janetmaca #6. beccabv #7. sunnykerr #8. *Arista* #9. ~Nicole~ #10. Valerina #11. Genevieve #12. Bono's Girl #13. NutMeg82 #14. *Melissa #15. aimie_joe #16. elduccia #17. froukje #18. LukeLorelai4EVER #19. Gaelicmaiden #20. *Lor* #21. ~~ CherylS ~~ #22. startstruck #23. Tajak #24. ~*~Di Di~*~ #25. OpheliaLane #26. Lorelai Obsessed #27. suncharm682 #28. Deranged Pixie #29. **Maddy** #30. * Kay * #31. ~Kitty #32. Çheri?£u£u #33. Wes&FredFan #34. unagi901 #35. bballplayer30 #36. Imaginary_Immortal #37. DobblersGirl #38. DarkB #39. gilmoregal #40. mindy1235 #41. MOTL6 #42. mimi mojo java #43. hyde&jackie1991 #44. jennarose #45. ReeMaria #46. -Alex- #47. Emma #48. Jen2003 #49. Luke&Lor4-Ever #50. Niuxita #51. i heart jai #52. Parvulissula #52. Elspeth the Wicked Java Junkie AIM/MSN List 1GGFan (Leslie) - (MSN leslie_bresser@hotmail.com) Ai Kago - Gabrielle7946 alexisfreak2 (Alexis) - Smiles Right Amanda Catherine (Amanda) - Lilithsternn Bajo2005 (Jo) - SoFtBaLL GuRL JO (MSN Parvulissula, YAHOO Parvulissula) Barbara Ann (Barb) - JavaJunkieGG, FuzzyAnimalQueen BethAnn (Beth Ann) - BethAnn528, SantaBurger bibleboymary4ever (Joan) - bibleboymary4ever catkok (Kitty) - ( rorygilmore1@yahoo.com ) Çheri?£u£u (Cheryl) - nightdreamer5474 (MSN starryeyes704@hotmail.com) Dani Wanna Be - StardustDani DCreekFreak (Ariel) - Mcphee44 Define Silence (Tav) - DefineSilence (MSN definesilence@hotmail.com) ~Di Di~ - SwtKiana77 ( SwtKiana77@msn.com ) d-nise (Denise) - pantalonorange47 (MSN: pantalonorange@hotmail.com) Eliii (Eli) - InvaderQueen ( b_nils@yahoo.com ) ~Elodie~ - (MSN e_l_o_d_i_z@hotmail.com) Elspeth the Wicked (Elisabeth) - Wacky Buffy (MSN rainbow_boo@hotmail.com) ~Emma~ - groovgirlemmy@hotmail.com EmpireGirl (Jo) - EmpireGirl7 ESipher (Emily) - ESipher@hotmail.com Froujke - froeke1983@hotmail.com Genevieve - Genevieve719 (MSN Genevieve71982@hotmail.com) Hawaiian1902 - Hawaiian1802 (LauraWestlake@msn.com) ~*~Hopeless Romantic~*~ (Daphne) - Roswellbabe22 or oHollywoodAngelo Imaginary_Immortal (Alissa) - Ifelloffthecheesewagon@hotmail.com JasonBehrsBabe22@hotmail.com) Janetmaca - (MSN goddessgoddess69@hotmail.com) javadebater (Megs) - barlowgirl1524 (MSN barlowgirl1524@hotmail.com ) javajunkie16 (Katie) - Kates685 jennarose (Jenna) - jennarose20 ( jenna@gilmore-girls.net ) Karen MR (Karen) MbCasper412 (@aol.com) KatieHolmes1981 (Amanda) - Bookish Hermione Kaybee28 - javachic5 ( java128888@yahoo.com ) Kristin92781 (Kristin) - Kristin92781 Kelsey78 (Kelsey)- dramaqueen892 Kwistina (Kristi)- (MSN little_kristi@hotmail.com) L.Grace (Leah) - (MSN juliet_ip_31@hotmail.com) LiL' BlueDevil22 (Nic) - DukeNM1/ Dukenm1@aol.com Lor - (MSN martimmy123@hotmail.com) Lorelai Obsessed (Suzie) - (MSN jeleesa@gmx.de) love21 (Heathyr) - picaboocu LukeLorelaiEVER (Yvonne) - LaurenGrahamFan1 (MSN LukeLorelai4EVER@hotmail.com) MichaelVartanIsSexy - MelLuvsAlias (MSN Darkangel_x5493@hotmail.com) Motylik20 - (MSN eva@evassite.net ) Mysti (Laura) - ( mysticstar84@yahoo.com ) Nanda - (MSN ferdy_caramelo@hotmail.com) Nate the Lizaphile (Nathan) - Mantra720 (MSN nathanschimpf@hotmail.com) Nicole - SunshineRose523 ( SunshineRose523@hotmail.com ) Nutters - Nabetse83 piper_maru (Carmen) - thankyoudj PoP NoT SoDa (Dana) - (MSN harvard_uni@hotmail.com) Princess Twilite - Princesstwilite2 ( Princesstwilite2@aol.com ) rapunzel (Danni) - (MSN aluminumgiraffle@hotmail.com) reeka - (MSN awriter78@hotmail.com) reza (Reza) - sweethunnie031 rockerchick326 (Victoria) - clumsypoet1414 (MSN rockerchick326@hotmail.com) *Sarah Marie* - xSarahxMariex510 SchmoopieAlly (Ally) - JavaJunkieGal (MSN <br /> scubagurl - cdmdslg (yahoo s...otmail.com</a>) Sharla - ( sharladi@yahoo.com ) spacecadet34 (Colleen) - snowqtie23 tanub87 (Tanu) - (MSN b_tanu@hotmail.com) The Christmas Tree Nazi (Gwen) - GumdropSwirl (MSN Fool_for_Love42@hotmail.com) Tina - (MSN javajunkielover06@yahoo.com ) Valerina - (MSN Valerina719@hotmail.com ) WBFreak (Lisa) - Peace0303 Java Junkie Birthday ROLL CALL Because celebrating is fun! Besides, we get to break out the secret stash for b-day parties! January 1st ~ -Tina- 5th ~ Froukje 7th ~ Janetmaca 21st ~ Niuxita 24th ~ Nate the Lizaphile (Nathan) 24th ~ nanda 28th ~ Kaybee28 28th ~ KatieHolmes1981 (Amanda) February 1st ~ oscar-ixander 7th ~ NaturallyNawlins (Carly) 9th ~ ican'tbelieveitsnotbutter/sk8er_chic (Alex) 16th ~ Emma 18th ~ Mysti (Laura) 20th ~ Chelios24 (Lissa) 27th ~ Elspeth the Wicked (Elisabeth) March 3rd ~ Snowwhite388 5th ~ MichaelVartanIsSexy 5th ~ love21 (Heathyr) 7th ~ i heart jai (Michelle) 11th ~ Amanda Catherine (Amanda) 14th ~ Sharla 26th ~ rockerchick326 (Victoria) 26th ~ grezzie (Greet) 29th ~ girlchic April 5th ~ SchmoopieAlly (Ally) 6th ~ JavaJunkie01 (Piper), Starstruck (Karen) 7th ~ Ai Kago 11th ~ d-nise (Denise) 11th ~ Bajo2005 (Jo) 12th ~ Karen MR (Karen) 14th ~ L.Grace (Leah) 16th ~ LiL' BlueDevil22 (Nic) 25th ~ Gwenster/The Christmas Tree Nazi (Gwen) 26th ~ ~*~Hopeless Romantic~*~ (Daphne) May 1st ~ tanub87 (Tanu) 4th ~ bibleboymary4ever (Joan) 10th ~ Sarah Marie 23rd ~ ~Nicole~ 26th ~ Stack (Stacy) 28th ~ spacecadet34 (Colleen) 28th ~ BethAnn (Beth Ann) June 4th ~ PoP NoT SoDa (Dana) 16th ~ Luke Rules (Sandra) 17th ~ javajunkie16 (Katie) 23rd ~ DawsonsCreekFan9 (Alissa) 26th ~ ~Kitty July 4th ~ Çheri?£u£u (Cheryl/Cher) 5th ~ Kwistina (Kristi) 6th ~ suncharm682 (Carla) 12th ~ Mandy Renay (Mandy) 12th ~ Valerina (Val) 13th ~ 1GGfan (Leslie) 16th ~ dkimes (Di Di) 19th ~ Genevieve 23rd ~ AwShucks (Steph) 24th ~ WBFreak (Lisa) August 1st ~ gluglug 3rd - Debbie555 7th ~ Define Silence (Tav) 8th ~ Lor 12th ~ lorelailukefan 17th ~ mimi mojo java 21st ~ ReeMaria 22nd ~ Kanes_Sugar (Christy) 25th ~ javadebater (Megs) 31st ~ reza (Reza) 31st ~ Brie (Sabrina) September 4th ~ zepposgirl (Teresa) 6th ~ rapunzel (Dannie) 13th ~ reeka (Steph) 15th ~ Eliii (Eli) 21st ~ ~Elodie~ 27th ~ Kristin92781 (Kristin) October 3rd ~ Lorelai Obsessed (Suzie) 5th ~ Jwkosmicat (Jane) 11th ~ Snowblue (Kate) 19th ~ Barbara Ann (Barb) 22nd ~ EmpireGirl (Jo) 26th ~ enigmatic7777 (Dana) November 2nd ~ Cougar (Bea) 10th ~ **Marie** (Marie) 10th ~ alexisfreak2/A.B. Normal (Alexis) 13th ~ Star400 (Sara) 15th ~ Horizon 22nd ~ Dani Wanna Be 24th - **Maddy** December 8th ~ Shrty1283 19th ~ bballplayer30 (Katy) 20th ~ SwingKitten 21st ~ Nutters Random Stuff JJ PICS In our imaginary worlds.. they're dating in real life too! NEWS We have a Java Junkie Guest Map! Come add your location and spread the JJ love across the world! The template is still being worked on. We've have lots of things to add. If you have any suggestions or ideas, PM ~Kitty Read the winning fan fic and all the submissions to the Java Junkie Fanfiction Contest! Happy Reading! Looking for a Java Junkie avatar? Check out Carmen's site: JavaJunkies.net If you want to start a new thread, use the awesome Java Junkie Thread Template Nate and Kitty made for us ! If you need help starting a new thread, please ask us. We'll have the 'Starting a new template' notes back up soon. **** This poem was written in memory of Kevin, the husband of a dear friend and fellow JJ! We love you Kitty! *Written by: Diana Kimes (~*~Di Di~*~) -------------------------------------------------------------- Have fun posting! Thread #128 Last edited by -Genevieve-; 06-03-2004 at 11:20 PM |
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Wheeee, new thread!
ETA: I'll make sure the stuff mentioned last night in the old thread gets added today. Gotta go shower and get dressed. Catch ya all from school |
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Do you guys want me to gather the transcripts for the 'Number of times someone has questioned whether or not L/L are just friends' that Kay didn't mention? (The times other board members have posted about). So they can be added to the list?
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...will you just stand still? Lorelai and Luke of Gilmore Girls Eternal Flame | MMS #40 ~ ILY #48 ~ WYMM #1 |
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That would be fantabulous Jen! Elduccia just mentioned another one on the old thread. Thanks a million. I'll edit the post from school. Ok, I gotta go! Bye!
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re-post. B/C you hit new thread too fast for me to keep up with you
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Sorry, only ranting. To Kay: your lists where great. Both the JJ moments and the number of times someone has pointed at Luke and Lor as a couple. Speaking of which: may I add another item to your list? You said there were 9 times. Well, actually they were 10. On episode 4.12 - Family matter, the opening scene at the Diner: Lor tells to Rory that she's meeting Jason and do furniture shopping and show him Stars Hollow. But when Luke gets to the table to pour coffee to Lor she only babbles "mmh...mmh" to Rory in order to avoid mentioning Jason. Then it goes like: Rory: Good thinking Lor: What? Rory: climbing up (not sure if this is the phrase). He's always had a problem with your guys. Better ease into it Lor: oh...no no, that's not why I stopped talking Well I hope this fits into that lists... Gen, do you think it's worth adding this episode to that list? __________________
Wilson: No, you're not afraid of authority, you're afraid she actually is right for you. You're afraid to take a chance, because it's too big a chance. If it doesn't work with her, then maybe there's no one out there. |
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okay . It may take a little bit, depends on when I start working, which varies. But, anyway, I'll put them into Kay's list in the order they happened, too.
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Me again. Seriously someone needs to pry me away or I'm going to school in PJs.
Over The Hurdles and Through The Hoops By Emily Ch. 2 of Variations on a Theme ...and I'm gone! |
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Re: re-post. B/C you hit new thread too fast for me to keep up with you
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I think a little MMS could set the fire alarms off, anyway __________________
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Great start! I love those lists.. I'm thinking of putting the moments and stuff on a separate page then link them. It'll make the intro easier to read.
And thank you Gen , for the fic links. I'll PM you back here in a bit. __________________
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Damn ya'll post a lot! I was al excited today thinking I might actually get caught up, and I see new threads.
Is it sad when I only get a limited amount of time each day to go on the internet and I spend all of it here? I'm starting to think it's becoming an obsession. Oh well, there are worse things to obsess over than L/L. Gotta go to work but I'll be back tomorrow hopefully. Laterz |
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Yep, you guessed it. More lyrics
Shines Right Through Me Great Big Sea These days I feel a change, All the patterns rearranged Though I can't explain, I know I’m not afraid Now I realize all good things can be supplied And they come from you Chorus It's all brand new, and it shines right through Shines Right Through Me I look at you and you, and it shines right through Shines Right Through Me This feeling that I've found, like sleeping on a cloud Smiling at the sky, Not even knowing why Strange how things work out, I know without a doubt That it comes from you Break me out of emptiness, Lead me to your light Anything worth having is worth some sacrifice Laid too long in lonliness, This world was made to change Half an hour of sunshine is worth a week of rain Air is flowing free, it's a little easier to breathe This soul unbound, was lost and found No reason left to hide, I feel a light inside and it comes from you __________________
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BTW: I'd just like to add my Josh/Donna love. I never even watched the show before, but then my sister showed me the episode where Josh and the guys throw the snowballs at her window. I've been hooked on that couple ever since.
Anyway, back on track . . . Java Junkies Rule!!!!! __________________
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Hey Friends
I'm gonna let Jen collect all the questioning moments but I added those other places we want MMS to take place. Kitty- I think that's an excellent idea and was gonna ask if you could do something like that. I just put them in the intro so they didn't get lost. I'm gonna go read those fic updates then I have to get going to pick up some stuff from work and figure out my schedule for next semester. I register today adn have no idea which classes to take when. Lator Gators. |
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Yay Gaelicmaiden!!! Great job on the thread Gen. The new banner looks good on this thread .
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Delurking to say: I love Great Big Sea...seen them live twice! Anyway, that's a great song! __________________
Love is hard to believe, ask any lover. Life is hard to belief, ask any scientist. God is hard to believe, ask any believer. What is your problem with hard to believe? - Life of Pi
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