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Old 06-18-2012, 12:23 PM
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Funny goal though.
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Old 06-18-2012, 12:26 PM
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hmm all those yellow cards

read impressions that the Sp-Cro match is grey
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Old 06-18-2012, 12:38 PM
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Can someone explain to me why at the moment Italy pulls through and not Croatia?
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Old 06-18-2012, 12:39 PM
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too bad the referee didn't decide on a penalty for croatia..

edit: it's because italy scored 2:2 against croatia and spain combined, and atm croatia and spain only 1:1. and because s and c are equal, their games against ireland get included again, and spain had a higher win against them. hope it's not gonna be decided by this, far too complicated
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Old 06-18-2012, 12:48 PM
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the strange unlikelyness for penalties on this champ is ridic
sometimes they NEED to be
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Old 06-18-2012, 12:51 PM
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ok or maybe i'm wrong, our commentator's talking about some point system in which italy's leading.. i think he's wrong
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Old 06-18-2012, 12:54 PM
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I just don't get it. Right now both have 5 points, but Croatia has scored four times in the tournament and Italy only three times...

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Old 06-18-2012, 12:57 PM
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he just admitted he was wrong

the confusing thing is that the goals against ireland only come into play again when everything else is equal.
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I just don't get it. Right now both have 5 points, but Croatia has scored four times in the tournament and Italy only three times...
im really not good @ counting this but it somehow depends more on who wins whom & their past games rather than number of balls scored
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Omg

Since Spain, Italy and Croatia would all have 5 points all the games against Ireland get taken out and only the ones between them count. So Italys goal difference in those is 2:2, and as of now Spains and Croatias is 1:1 so Italy is first because they scored more goals.
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Old 06-18-2012, 12:59 PM
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But Italy-Croatia ended in a draw...

I'm honestly confused

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Since Spain, Italy and Croatia would all have 5 points all the games against Ireland get taken out and only the ones between them count. So Italys goal difference in those is 2:2, and as of now Spains and Croatias is 1:1 so Italy is first.
Oooooooooooooooooh!!!! THANK YOU. That makes sense!!
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Old 06-18-2012, 01:00 PM
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can't explain it any better but spain is probably gonna score anyway so..
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Can someone explain to me why at the moment Italy pulls through and not Croatia?
Amendment to page 9, Paragraph 8.07 as per UEFA EURO 2012 Information Letter n°17 / 2012
dated 23.03.2012
8.07 If two or more teams are equal on points on completion of the group matches, the following
criteria are applied to determine the rankings:
a) Higher number of points obtained in the matches played between the teams in
question;
b) Superior goal difference resulting from the matches played between the teams in
question (if more than two teams finish equal on points);
c) Higher number of goals scored in the matches played between the teams in question
(if more than two teams finish equal on points);
d) If, after having applied criteria a) to c), two teams still have an equal ranking,
criteria a) to c) are reapplied exclusively to the matches between the two teams
in question to determine the final rankings of the two teams. If this procedure
does not lead to a decision, criteria e) to i) apply in the order given;
e) superior goal difference in all group matches;
f) higher number of goals scored in all group matches;
g) position in the UEFA national team coefficient ranking system (see annex I, paragraph
1.2.2);
h) fair play conduct of the teams (final tournament);
i) drawing of lots
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And if Spain-Croatia draw 1-1 Italy would have to win 3-1 or higher because then all the goal differences between them would be the same again and I think then the games with Ireland count again and it's the most goals scored in all the games And if they draw 2-2 or higher Italy is automatically out because they can't change their goal difference in the games that count anymore. God this is confusing but I think I understood it now
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