[cherrypie12345]

Point is they don't seem to want a change at all.

[MysteryXX]

It would be so cool if season 5 pretended season 4 never happened. A man can dream.

[Movies]

Also first of all Morgan needs to understand there can be a freaking middle ground in life. Just chill, dude. Try not to randomly kill people, help people when you can, and if some people want to kill you or your buddies, I don't know, kill them if you must. He would be so much more likable this way. Another tip, Mo mo. Stop making everything about you. If a person tells you about their problem, don't suddenly go, "I WAS LIKE THAT TOO. BUT I CHANGED. LET'S TALK ABOUT ME NOW. " Or, for example, when all your friends are dying, don't make their death about you and tell them that they can't die since you can't lose them and you'll go back to how you were, and to shut you up and not make it awkward.

[cherrypie12345]

Morgan's selfishness will get the entire group killed. I've said it before and I'll say it again. Just because he got saved by the cheesemaker (and caused his death as a thank you) doesn't mean everyone else can be saved. Even John, the nicest and most forgiving person in your group thought it would be better to kill the Filthy Woman. But you had to try and save her. Which caused your group to almost die and you almost too late to save them. If I was in a group with Morgan I would probably left a long time ago.

[MysteryXX]

This. This a thousand times. You are spot on, everything is about him. He does not understand the concept of BALANCE! So we are expected to believe a man who will not wield a gun, nor kill, would still be alive at this point? Just because of his stick ability? Remember that scene where he disarmed the sister of the wheelchair dude when she had a knife and he did some contrived stick nonsense and knocked it out of her hand and she just gave up? Yea well, her brother in that same scene had a bloody shotgun and just let him win. Not a good writing if you ask me

[cherrypie12345]

Morgan could be interesting if implemented well but that ship has sailed. Morally he operates on the "good" side, but logically he's almost always wrong and it's not even subtle. If it wasn't quite as obvious he was making a bad call it might have been interesting to watch him.

[Movies]

I am sick and tired of this dude

[MysteryXX]

Characters whose every decision is dictated by absolutes, even in the face of overwhelming impracticality, very quickly lose their charm.

[Movies]

I gave up on Morgan after the countless times he has flipped flopped on his perspective of killing.

Considering that I've seen this dilemma happen within many TWD/FTWD characters in the past, it's just annoying at this point, especially when you’re this far in the apocalypse. It is getting old.

[MysteryXX]

Yeah, they seriously need to come up with some new writing for him.

Originally he was a good guy, then he was bad, then good, then bad again, good again, bad again, and now hes good but apparently just the drop of a hat away from murdering everyone around him at any given time. That's insane.

[cherrypie12345]

I don't even understand why he's suddenly decided to stop killing again tbh.

It's not as though there are masses of people around for him to massacre like there would be at Alexandria. There's literally 1 person who is clearly very mentally ill and he knows she's been killing innocent people for ages. Hell, less than a few weeks ago in universe, Morgan was shooting people down and stabbing their brains out with a pointy stick.

People can't just flip and switch and decide that killing is morally repugnant again. There's an obvious middle ground but the writers need Morgan to act retarded for the sake of the plot.

[Movies]

You said it yourself, everything for the sake of the plot

[cherrypie12345]

Hopefully S5 can recover but I doubt it.

[Movies]

We just wait and see. Maybe they will give us some spoilers this weekend.

[MysteryXX]

Hopefully they are good