crazy_diamond

crazy_diamond

finally it's here, we've been waiting months

Going to be a rollercoaster tonight I feel

baelfire24

Definitely felt like a rollercoaster!

I felt bad for Rumple in this episode (in Hyperion Heights and the Enchanted Forest)

Loved the Alice and Rumple scenes in both worlds

I had a feeling that Alice/Robyn would be Rumbelle 2.0

Meliana

Oh wow! Such a good episode!

Such great Alice/Rumple scenes in the flashback. I really didn't know what was going to happen after the Darkness came out of him. But when he took it back again it was to help Alice and not because he wanted it, which is an amazing step forward.

Loved the Hook/Rumple scenes too, they actually shook hands and declared themselves friends! Amazing!

Nice love story developing between Tilly and Margot, I almost thought Tilly was remembering when she took that bracelet.

It's really building up momentum before the final now, as more evidence of something other-worldy is mounting for all our characters.

I knew curing Henry wasn't going to be that easy. I felt bad for Rumple that he felt so guilty about betraying Regina, and also that he'd made a misstep on his path to Belle.

crazy_diamond

Oh MYYYY!!!! , I the eppy, it's my joint fave of the season, so many great characters scenes and twists and turns...right here goes:

Rumple:
-The SHRINE!!!!, I was not prepared for it . Aww talking to Belle and also a Gideon mention , such a beautiful setting, the feelings...
- Facilier, you haven't got a clue about Rumple have you, a pin cushion and how dare you interrupt Rumbelle time!
- Ahh my detective duo , and Rogers is getting worried for Rumple, he knows when his bro is worried
- Aww Regina you do know when you say to Rumple 'don't do anything crazy' he must probably will
- Great 2 scenes with Hook and Rumple in EF2 and they shook hands at the end and became friends , I never knew I needed that until now..
- Oh my Rumple is changing and putting Tily to the test , blimey Rumple could you have chosen another way. Glad she passed, phew!. Awesome acting from Robert in that scene...
- Aww Alice and Rumple being friends...
- Rumple is not thinking straight here, he's leading on emotion and panic, aww Rumple I had a feeling you would take the magic.
- the scene with Rumple and Alice at Belle's shrine and Alice OMG taking the darkness and then Rumple taking it back again, wanting Alice and Robyn to live a normal happy life together
- Now Rumple knows what truly happened with the dagger ....
- Regina now cut off communication with Rumple because of the magic....he did wrong and he knows it, he put his grandson on sort of standby and he knew he would be ok, but this will not be glossed over easily...they need to have a good ol' sit down after the dust has settled...

Other stuff:
- Lovely scenes with Tily and Margot and that Tily loves bookshops
- Also cute scenes with Alice and Robyn, while their 2 Dads watch over them
- Glad that Rogers is getting more suspicious about what is going on the town
- Yes Regina Facilier didn't steal the dagger, but still don't trust him girl....
- So Henry now tells Jacinda about being Henry's father, that's going to be a thought process for her

All in all a brilliant episode and Robert was awesome in it

Meliana

I thought the same thing when Facilier tried to use the pin on Rumple. That was not going to work!

It was such a good episode!

IrishWristWatch

Hi guys, I was a little confused over last nights epi and wanted to ask what you thought about:

1) the Guardian’s purpose: I had thought that the Guardian was supposed to be able to absorb the Dark Curse without it affecting them; I didn’t know it would make them immortal. I couldn’t tell if Rumple already knew this or if he realized it during the curse being taken from him (Alice’s eyes looked like they were changing?). Anyway, he did the right thing by stopping her and knows he must seek a different way to Belle now. Do you think the Guardian will be a part of this but in a different way?

2) Belle’s “Day of the Dead” shrine: Was it part of Rumple’s home? I know they like to have plenty of Disney references (and Belle’s shrine made me think of “Coco”, with its DotD references), but it just didn’t seem to fit Rumple IMO. He didn’t have one for Bae and I know Bae must be on his mind all the time.

3) I was confused why the dagger was in Alice’s backpack. Facilier has magic, did he poof it there to show Rumple that he can get it any time he wants? Because Alice was the Guardian, did the dagger go into her backpack to protect it against anyone trying to steal it? Alice seemed confused herself as to why it was in there but I think that’s cuz she doesn’t know her true identity yet?

I can't believe there's only 4 epis left!!! Can't wait to see Sbrooke one last time and especially RumBelle’s reunion!!!

ETA: When Hook/Rumple shook hands, I had "all the feels" as my teens say LOL, never thought I would see that!

Oh I know! The first time he became the DO, he was tricked and horrified, although he quickly embraced it. The 2nd time, he really wanted it. This time, he so didn't want it but did the right thing for Alice's sake

I was staring at the TV, not believing what I was seeing!

I love them together

crazy_diamond

Yeah I thought he doesn't know anything

joint best of the season for me...

Irish, the dagger was in Alice's backpack, because she is the Guardian of the dagger, although in HH, she doesn't know this. Because the dagger sensed it was in danger, it went into Alice's backpack because she is the guardian of it...

I don't think it was part of Rumple's home. It seemed like a cave structure and somewhere safe, well mainly safe...

It is to absorb the darkness, but it will burden whoever took it on with immortality and rumple didn't want that for Alice... I do think now Rumple is the Ultimate Guardian.

IrishWristWatch

Crazy D thank you for your answers!

that makes the most sense to me and is more reassuring at the same time


I'm glad that he still has some faith deep inside that he can find his way to Belle, and we know he will, but right now is so difficult for him!

crazy_diamond

No worries Irish

It's now clear that 'The Guardian' is the ultimate test really. Rumple can't pass on the darkness because the burden will be passed onto someone else and without it he really can't move on to see Belle.

Has to be a loophole somewhere..

Another point really liked Rogers/Henry scenes this week

Seamstress90

It was a great episode! Bobby was amazing!

I agree

I got the impression it was some kind of public place where anyone can go to talk to the dead (at least that's what Facilier suggested in the opening scene).

I think the Guardian would become a immortal light magician like Merlin.

I think so too.

IrishWristWatch

Thanks for answering my ?s, Seamstress!

crazy_diamond

I wouldn't be surprised if that happened...

I do wonder if Henry and Rogers will be sort of working together in trying to find out what the dickens is happening in HH

Belleislove

Yes, that's what I got out of it too. Although I am perfectly fine with him having a shrine to Belle. I actually saw people complaining about this to Adam on Twitter saying was ridiculous and so on. Really? People have never seen gravestones with all kinds of flowers and assorted things on them? But yes, I think this was a general place people can go to talk to the dead.

The episode was beautiful and he was just fabulous. No complaints. I also got why he stole the magic from Regina. Yes, she has a right to be mad. This is her son's life she's worried about.

However, in the past whenever Rumple was worried about Belle and Belle was kind of in danger people weren't overly concerned for him. In fact I remember a scene with Henry where Rumple was worried about Belle and what the Black Fairy had done to her and him being told pretty much that Belle would have to wait, that what Henry wanted was more important. And I got where Henry was coming from but I also got where Rumple is coming from. So I wasn't really too upset about that. He was wrong certainly yes, I get Regina being angry.

But to Rumple, the thought of being controlled again by the dagger and someone having that power over the Dark One again took precedence so he made a decision that could cost his grandson. I'm not excusing it. He was wrong. But I do understand his thinking.

I think he was clearly shaken that he believed she was right, that he hadn't changed at all and that he had hurt Henry. And I think he'll make it up to him. And I think he cares about Rogers and Tilly and Regina as well. And he'll make a sacrifice. For some viewers it will never be enough and for some it will be too much, imo.

In the past, others of the heroes have done things in the name of love that may not have been the best choices. Emma turning Hook into a Dark One, all of them leaving SB and taking Henry to the underworld and possibly leaving their children orphans. They did these things to save someone they cared about. So honestly I'm not condemning Rumple for doing the same. Sometimes we don't make good choices. And Rumple is always called out for his bad choices but I think that works both ways.

If that is "woobifying" Rumple so be it. I'm guilty.

But anyway he was just spot on in his performance as usual. The voice inflections, the tears. What a great episode.

Seamstress90

ITA with everything you said!

I wouldn't mind Rumple building a shrine for Belle, either I doubt he'd decorate it with skulls, though