Hero of Time

Elektra

- Poor Cisco and Gypsy are having issues. Sad they broke up. They should have gone to Barry and Iris’s therapist.

- Cecile can help Harry now! That’s going to be cute.

- So… Clifford was an arrogant jerk even at the beginning of their relationship.

Glad Marlize left him. She looked bad-ass doing it too. "You're nothing without me!"

- Not!Dawn has yellow AND purple lightning!

I'm thinking Not!Dawn ran away from Iris because she doesn't want Mama to see her... because then Future!Mama will remember seeing her in the past, and ground her for eternity.

"Are you time traveling again, Nora Dawn Allen?! What did I tell you about that?! GO TO YOUR ROOM!"

Also... Iris would probably sense something from her... cause Mama's know their babies, even if they haven't had them yet

fire for a heart

yep glad marlize is finally realizing what clifford is doing and how he has treated her

intersting hopefully we will know for sure who she is


ceceil and harry wokjing together was awesome

Arien Siege

I never really liked Gypsy and Cisco's relationship, but I did like Gypsy alone. I whish she had a more prominent role in the serie

Caitlin is going kinda crazy. I want to see more of that xD

Good to see Cecile again. I was wondering when she was going to show up

DeVoe's plan is bananas! Marlize looks great in black. They way she left Clifford... badass

Finally the mystery girl show's up again, and she's a speedster... Her whole character is disorienting. If they don't adress whatever arc they're planning soon (and I mean, next episode), it might get messy

Elektra

In regards to The Thinker -- for a guy who is so against technology, his whole plan relies on technology, and I'm guessing for as smart as he is, he's the kind of guy that doesn't even know how to use a DVD player.

Marlize (ie: the technological genius) is absolutely correct: He is nothing without her.

Popcorn71

This ep was certainly better than the last 3 eps; it didn't bat 1000, but it was definitely better than the last 3 weeks.

So now we know that DeVoe has an aversion to tech, by using tech to serve his purpose. OK, that makes a lot of sense! And he wants to be mankind's "liberator"? I guess he wants all of mankind to be as as he is. At least Marlize has finally left him. I knew she'd come to her senses sooner or later. Maybe now she'll help the team (hate the term "Team Flash") to defeat him. That'll be interesting. Seeing the past scenes w/the present ones served up an interesting juxtaposition.

Oh, well my second favorite ship has apparently hit an iceberg. I really liked Cynco. And to make things even worse, Cisco shed a tear when Cyndi said that she's was satisfied w/the way things were. Come on, Cisco is a great catch. How could she just leave him like that? Thankfully, she didn't die. Maybe things will be better next season, & she'll be back for more eps after she comes to her senses. Barry trying to get them back together was funny. It was nice seeing him return to his adorkable ways. Speaking of which, they (the writers) actually had Barry using his brains? W/out anybody's (except Iris, who helped plant the seed) help? Is there a new day dawning?

Cecile helping Harry was a nice touch. Her mind reading powers are actually being put to good use, & it makes some sense now. One thing I am tired of is Caitlin w/her split personality. And she's gonna find a way to bring back KF by herself? That's got disaster written all over it.

I guess tptb think the vast majority of fandom is stupid. We ALL knew that was Barry & Iris' daughter when she showed up at the wedding. And she has both yellow & purple lightning? That sealed the deal right there. The only explanation I have for her fearful look at the end (& the reason she ran away) is b/c she didn't want her mother to see her. Her dad was blissfully oblivious when he met her (like most dads are), but her mom would've known who she was right away. WHY she went up there to see her granddad is beyond me. She should've known her parents were home. What if Iris had opened the door?

Hero of Time

I'm gonna be really disappointed if Mystery Girl is actually Joe and Cecile's daughter as I've seen some people theorize. I like Joe, I like Cecile, but I'm not really invested in their baby storyline.

MagnusBane

She's a Speedster and mixed race. I don't get how anyone still thinks she's Joe/Cecile's kid but I guess good on the writers because I think it's beyond obvious but they've pulled the wool over some people's eyes.

I'm sorry but this mission to get KF is garbage. She tried to kill Iris, Cecile and helped kill HR. So Caitlin spent all last year trying to get rid of her but now wants her murderous alter ego back? Can KF just take over Caitlin completely because I'm done with her?

Dawn Nora Allen is an angel. Who needs to reveal herself ASAP? Running away the moment her Mom comes to the door. We see you Dawn. And you Mom would've too that's why you had to go.

KatB

I agree. I have talked about before how I just don't care about their baby. I barley care about Joe and Cecile. I don't know why, I love Joe and Cecile is likable but IDK, there is no spark.

First off you are right about KF, how quickly she went from risking her life to get rid of KF, to trying to get her back. I don't get it. I just yawn and move on.

I think that Dawn, yes WestAllen's kid, was scared when she heard her mom's voice. Perhaps, partly because they had had a fight before she left. Perhaps Barry went missing, like the 2024 article said and she is time traveling to prevent that after her mom told her not to do so? Or something similar. In any event, I can't wait for the reveal and next season.

Arien Siege

It's funny how apparently most people don't like Caitlin trying to get KF back and I think the complete opposite. When Killer Frost started taking over, Caitlin and Team Flash tried to get rid off her, so it's understandable that she would want to go with someone who actually wanted HER. But after Caitlin started regaining cotrol and she got used to her and eventually became fond of her, and not only her but alse the team. Besides, when the nuke was about to go off KF told Barry to not let Caitlin die. So yeah, KF has come a long way and I would like to her again

FireQueen

The problem is that Killer Frost coming a long way happened off screen. I think this is why people, myself included, are upset. One day the team considers Killer Frost an antagonist or someone they couldn't 100% trust, the other she's a team member. The transition was sloppy.

There's also the fact that we haven't seen the team bonding with Killer Frost. It seems she's just there as someone that could help with her powers. I haven't seen anything suggesting that the team is actually friends with Killer Frost.

Whether Caitlin is trying to get rid of Killer Frost OR she's trying to get her back, she does selfish things that put the team in danger. And she never gets called out

Mystery Girl being a speedster doesn't mean much because both Barry and Wally are speedsters with human parents. Thare are other things that suggest she's Barry and Iris', including the fact that she has yellow and purple lightning just like them. And I don't think they'd cast a biracial actress, who actually looks biracial, to play the daughter of two black people. Cecile's pregnancy is probably a red herring.

Arien Siege

Yes, it might have happened mostly off-screen but it did happen. The hart to heart she had with Ralph was something. And even Cailtlin expressed jealousy about the team "hanging out" with KF more often than she knew

SuitUp

Rewatched a little bit of this episode. I wish Cisco would have taken the Breacher job. It feels like the lab characters never move forward.