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Old 05-01-2014, 06:19 AM
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Faction Discussion #1: Candor, Erudite, Amity, Abnegation, Dauntless and the Factionless

W E L C O M E T O T H E 1ST T H R E A D
Faction Discussion
-- C H O O S E | W I S E L Y --






theinitiates
001. sourburst (divergent)
002. a million miles (divergent)
003. wickedrum (divergent)
004. secretlife esminovela
005. HaylijahღEndgame
006. how forever feels
007. light the fuse (divergent)
008. *Dark_Angel*4eva (divergent)
009. lulu-144
010. KeepThisASecret
011. ♥Twilighter Tee♥
012. Broony
013. NicoleRenee (divergent)
014. these broken stars (divergent)
015. NicoleRenee (divergent)
016. Queen of Babble
017. x♥xBeautiful_Butterflyx♥x (divergent)

aptitudetest
OFFICAL TEST
theresults
sourburst - divergent
RESULTS: #1 , #2
SCORING HIGHEST: Dauntless

wickedrum - divergent
RESULTS: #1
SCORING HIGHEST: Amity

light the fuze - divergent
RESULTS: #1
SCORING HIGHEST: Erudite

a million miles - divergent
RESULTS: #1
SCORING HIGHEST: Amity

*Dark_Angel*4eva - divergent
RESULTS: #1
SCORING HIGHEST: Erudite

these broken stars - divergent
RESULTS: #1
SCORING HIGHEST: Candor

NicoleRenee - divergent
RESULTS: #1
SCORING HIGHEST: Dauntless

x♥xBeautiful_Butterflyx♥x - divergent
RESULTS: #1
SCORING HIGHEST: Amity
dauntlessmanifesto
We believe that cowardice is to blame for the world’s injustices.

We believe that peace is hard-won, that sometimes it is
necessary to fight for peace. But more than that: We believe
that justice is more important than peace.

We believe in freedom from fear, in denying fear the power to
influence our decisions. We believe in ordinary acts of bravery,
in the courage that drives one person to stand up for another.

We believe in acknowledging fear and the extent to which it rules
us. We believe in facing that fear no matter what the cost to our
comfort, our happiness, or even our sanity.

We believe in shouting for those who can only whisper, in
defending those who cannot defend themselves.

We believe, not just in bold words but in bold deeds to match them.
We believe that pain and death are better than cowardice and
inaction because we believe in action.

We do not believe in living comfortable lives. We do not believe
that silence is useful.

We do not believe in good manners.

We do not believe in empty heads, empty mouths, or empty hands.

We do not believe that learning to master violence encourages
unnecessary violence.

We do not believe that we should be allowed to stand idly by. We
do not believe that any other virtue is more important than bravery.

eruditemanifesto
We submit the following statements as truth:

“Ignorance” is defined not as stupidity but as lack of knowledge.
Lack of knowledge inevitable leads to disconnect among people with
differences. Lack of understanding leads to a disconnect among people
with differences. Disconnection among people with differences leads to
conflict. Knowledge is the only logical solution to the problem of conflict.
Therefore, we propose that in order to eliminate conflict, we must
eliminate the disconnect among those with differences by correcting the
lack of understanding that arises from ignorance with knowledge. The
areas in which people must be educated are:

1. Sociology

So that the individual understands how society at large functions.

2. Psychology

So that the individual understands how a person functions within the
society.

3. Mathematics

So that the individual is prepared for further study in science, engineering,
medicine, and technology.

4. Science

So that the individual better understands how the world operates. So that
the individual’s study in other areas is supplemented. So that as many individuals
as possible area prepared to enter the fields devoted to innovation and progress.

5. Communication

So that the individual knows how to speak and write clearly and effectively.

6. History

So that the individual understands the mistakes and successes that have
led us to this point. So that the individual learns to emulate those successes
and avoid those mistakes. Leaders must not be chosen base on charisma,
popularity, or ease of communication, all of which are misleading and have
little to do with the efficiency of a political leader. An objective standard must
be used in order to determine who is best fit to lead. That standard will be
an intelligence test, administered to all adults when the present leader
reaches fifty-five or begins to decline is function in a demonstrable way.
Those who, after rigorous studying, do not meet a minimum intelligence
requirement will be exiled from the faction so they can be made useful. This
is not an act of elitism but rather one of practicality: Those who are not
intelligent enough to engage in the roles assigned to us— roles that require
a considerable mental capacity—are better suited to menial work than to
faction work. Menial work is required for the survival of society, and is
therefore just as important as faction work. Information must always be
made available to all faction members at all times. The withholding of
information is punishable by reprimand, imprisonment, and, eventually,
exile. Every question that can be answered must be answered or at least engaged.
Illogical thought processes must be challenged when they arise.
Wrong answers must be corrected. Correct answers must be affirmed. If an answer
to a question is unclear, it must be put to debate. All debates require evidence.
Any controversial thought or idea must be supplemented by evidence in order to
reduce the potential for conflict. Intelligence must be used for the benefit, and
not to the detriment, of society. Those who use intelligence for their own personal
gain or to the detriment of others have not properly borne the responsibility of
their gift, and are not welcome in our faction. It bears repeating: Intelligence is
a gift, not a right. It must not be wielded not as a weapon but as a tool for the
betterment of others.

amitymanifesto
Conversations of Peace

Trust

A son says to his mother: “Mother, today I fought with my friend.”

His Mother says: “Why did you fight with your friend?”

“Because he demanded something of me, and I would not give it
to him.”

“Why did you not give it to him?”

“Because it was mine.”

“My son, you now have your possessions, but you do not have your
friend. Which would you rather have?”

“My friend.”

“Then give freely, trusting that you will also be given what you need.”

Self-Sufficiency

Daughter says to her Father: “Father, today I fought with my friend.”

Her Father says: “Why did you fight with your friend?”

“Because she insulted me, and I was angry.”

“Why were you angry?”

“Because she lied about me” (In some versions: “Because I was hurt
by her words.”)

“My daughter, did your friend’s words change who you are?”

“No.”

“Then do not be angry. The opinions of others cannot damage you.”

Forgiveness

A husband says to his wife: “Wife, today I fought with my enemy.”

“His Wife says: “Why did you fight with your enemy?”

“Because I hate him.”

“My husband, why do you hate him?”

“Because he wronged me.”

“The wrong is past. You must let it rest where it lies.”

Kindness

A Wife says to her Husband: “Husband, today I fought with my enemy.”

Her Husband says: “Why did you fight with your enemy?”

“Because I spoke cruel words to her.”

“My wife, why did you speak cruel words to her?”

“Because I believed them to be true.”

“Then you must no longer think cruel thoughts. Cruel thoughts lead
to cruel words, and hurt you as much as they hurt your target.”

candormanifesto
Dishonesty Is Rampant.

Dishonesty Is Temporary.

Dishonesty Makes Evil Possible.

As it stands now, lies pervade society, families, and even the internal
life of the individual. One group lies to another group, parents lie to
children, children lie to parents, individuals lie to themselves. Dishonesty
has become so integral to the way we relate to one another that we
rarely find ourselves in authentic relationships with others. Our dark
secrets remain our own. Yet it is our secrets that cause conflict. When
we are dishonest with the people around us, we begin to hate ourselves
for lying; when we are dishonest with ourselves, we can never attempt to
correct the flaws we find within us, the flaws we are so desperate to hide
from our loved ones, the flaws that make us lie. What has become clear
is that lies are just a temporary solution to a permanent problem. Lying
to spare a person’s feelings, even when the truth would help them to
improve, damages them in the long run. Lying to protect yourself lasts
for so long before the truth emerges. Like a wild animal, the truth is too
powerful to remain caged. These are examples we clearly see in our own
lives, yet we fail to understand that they do not just apply to the dynamic
between ourselves and our neighbors, or ourselves and our friends. What
is society but a web of individual-to-individual relationships? And what is
conflict except one person’s dark secret crashing into another person’s dark
secret? Dishonesty is a veil that shields one person from another. Dishonesty
allows evil to persist, hidden from eyes of those who would fight it. Dishonesty
Leads to Suspicion. Suspicion Leads to Conflict. Honesty Leads to Peace.
We have a vision of an honest world. In this world, parents do not lie to their
children, and children do not lie to their parents do not lie to their parents;
friends do not lie to one another; spouses do not lie to each other. When we
are asked our opinions we are free to give them without having to consider any
other responses. When we engage in conversation with others, we do not have to
evaluate their intentions, because they are transparent. We have no suspicion,
and no one suspects us. And most of all - yes, above all else - we are free to
expose our dark secrets because we know the dark secrets of our neighbors, our
friends, our spouses, our children, our parents, and our enemies. We know that
while we are flawed in a unique way, we are not unique because we are flawed.
Therefore we can be authentic. We have no suspicions. And we are at peace with
those around us. Truth ‘Makes ‘Us ‘Transparent. ‘Truth Makes Us Strong. Truth
Makes Us Inextricable We will raise our children to tell the truth. We will do this
by encouraging them to speak their minds at every moment. For the child,
withholding words is the same as lying. We will be honest with our children even
at the expense of their feelings. The only reason people cannot bear honesty
now is because they were not raised hearing the truth about themselves, and
they can’t stand to. If children are raised to hear both honest praise and honest
criticism, they will not be so fragile as to crumble beneath the scrutiny of their
peers. A life of truth makes us strong. Adulthood will be defined as a time at
which each member of society is capable of bearing every other member’s dark
secrets, just as every other member will be subjected to The Full Unveiling in which
every hidden part of their life is laid bare before their fellow members. They, too,
will see the hidden parts of their fellow members’ lives. In this way we bear one
another’s secrets. In this way we become inextricable. Truth Makes Us Inextricable.

abnegationmanifesto
I will be my undoing If I become my obsession.

I will forget the ones I love If I do not serve them.

I will war with others If I refuse to see them.

Therefore I choose to turn away From my reflection, To rely not on
myself But on my brothers and sisters, To project always outward
Until I disappear.

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