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Old 05-07-2019, 12:54 PM
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I don't know how it can either. I needed him to tell her how angry he is. But her reaction just blows my mind.
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Old 05-07-2019, 01:03 PM
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He did that... He told her. What can be worse than anybody telling you that he would want to kill you, that he can't ever trust nor forgive you. That's the end of whatever there was between them. And still she just can't see how damaged it all is.
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Old 05-07-2019, 01:08 PM
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And she doesn't care. She just says you won't.

And even before. She was only worried about Dembe, not herself. She's so confident Red won't hurt her.
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Old 05-09-2019, 12:54 PM
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That's it... She doesn't even care.

I wish there was a reason that she wouldn't feel that safe anymore. We need a change in demeanor.
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Old 05-12-2019, 08:25 AM
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This episode, I am in love with it. It felt like old times

Red and Liz were the old red and Liz. They felt so right together. Everything about them was perfect. And I know we've not really had a reconciliation

How can one episode make me feel like this?
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Old 05-12-2019, 11:46 AM
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It's fantastic, right? And still I'm not over what has happened, you know. I'm wondering if there will be consequences in their relationship after everything they learned. We know that Red for now is proceeding but I'm wondering what will come afterwards.

I still don't feel like it, my vision is still clouded. I still am lacking the emotional involvement.
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Old 05-13-2019, 01:25 PM
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Oh believe me I know what you mean. This episode is the first one in a long time where liz has felt genuine. I don't know why I felt that way this time, when I didn't even when she thought Red her father and was trying to get along with him.


I know it probably won't last.
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Old 05-13-2019, 01:36 PM
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He did that... He told her. What can be worse than anybody telling you that he would want to kill you, that he can't ever trust nor forgive you. That's the end of whatever there was between them. And still she just can't see how damaged it all is.
She really doesn't see it and she doesn't care. And maybe by Red telling her that he wanted to kill her but that he can't might make her feel powerful in some way. Now she knows that whatever the hell she does, Red won't kill her.
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Old 05-14-2019, 01:00 PM
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After she told him, her only concern was for Dembe. It's like she knew Red wouldn't hurt her.
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Old 05-15-2019, 10:38 AM
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Exactly. It is like she knew.

I wonder if she tried to contact Dembe.
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Old 05-16-2019, 11:39 AM
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She's such a narcissist, so who knows. But that would be nice if she tried to fix what she broke.
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Old 05-18-2019, 01:00 PM
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I really hope she tries.

Wonder what Liz is going to tell Agnes about who Red is.
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Old 05-20-2019, 11:30 AM
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My heart broke when Agnes didn't recognize him.

Did Red sacrifice himself for Liz and Agnes? Why did he need to meet Katarina.

What was his Hobson's choice where he had to choose between them? Is she someone else he thought he killed?

Pretty much every idea I had about the show is messed up now.
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Old 05-20-2019, 12:53 PM
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But it is not strange that Agnes didn't recognize him. He only saw her when she was a baby and she can't remember that.

I have a feeling he did sacrifice himself for Liz and Agnes. More so for Agnes than for Liz. Why else go look for Katarina and visit her?
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Old 05-20-2019, 01:16 PM
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She saw Liz the same amount of time. Seems like she wouldn't know her either.
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