Fangirl49

And he was worried like crazy about Red then too.

Lauren Helen Graham

Hm, I really don't know why he is so worried... Like he said, he looked sideways for such a long time. What changed? Why now? Why for her?

Miranda

Maybe he thought that Liz would tell Red herself? or maybe his conscience is getting too him.

Lauren Helen Graham

You think so? How would he think that when she just betrayed Red and almost got him killed?

Fangirl49

I am truly sick. Is Hisham gone? I'm also a little mad that he just left Red. I can see you wanting your own life but to tell Red you can't forgive him? For what? That makes no sense.

Miranda

I don't understand either. He has put with everything Red did for so long. Why all of sudden choose his own path and leave Red? I don't get it.

Lauren Helen Graham

I'm so worried that Hisham might be gone as well... But I don't believe that. He will be back. And somehow I hope that he took that box with him and that the content of this box will bring him back to Red. I still believe in that (and yes, I'm such a dreamer).

And actually, now I get Dembe. Let it sink in.

Fangirl49

You "get" Dembe. Lol. Not you. You always hold a tv grudge.

Miranda

I really need him to come back! I can't imagine the show without him. We already lost Samar, not Dembe as well.

I still don't get it. Why is he so fed up with it all of sudden? Why now?

The box.. let's hope he still has it bit I don't know if he will open it now.

Lauren Helen Graham

You mean me?

He is not fed up with it all of sudden... He wasn't okay with it before and he voiced it several times. Red just didn't act on it and he kept watching and watching. It's now been the point that he made a decision to keep a secret for her but nevertheless forced her to come forward in the end. He wanted to make it right. And therefore Red considered killing him. He did consider it, we know that all. He wasn't safe from the beginning, Red had to think about it and that's what made the difference.

HE WILL OPEN IT! (Dreamer mood)

Miranda

I know he wasn't agreeing on a lot of things with Red. I know that. But he could have packed up his stuff sooner and left. Why did he pick this exact moment? was it because Red had to think about what he was going do with Dembe because he lied? Dembe knows what Red does to people that lie to him But Red made an exception for Dembe because he is special to Red.

I really think he is not going to open the box. He promised Red he wouldn't open it until Red is dead. I think he is going to keep that promise.

Fangirl49

I know Red had to think about killing Dembe. And Dembe expected this. But he knows the one thing Red can't abide is disloyalty. It's like a trigger for him.

Maybe that's tied into how he lost his family, someone wasnt loyal to him or was loyal to the wrong company. Heck it could go bsck to his father being disloyal to Red.

That's why in this particular situation Red lost it. And Dembe is really lucky Red did love him enough to think about it.

Miranda

Yeah it probably all goes way back into the past. Red is who he is and I am sure he has really good reasons for that.

I just really need Dembe to come back.

Lauren Helen Graham

Because Red considered him being a mortal enemy and killing him... That was the reason why it was now. He endured it all, all the time because he never thought this possible. But when Red told him that and left, he for the first time I'm sure was afraid of Red.

And honestly, I don't believe that Dembe expected THAT.

I don't recall Dembe promising that he wouldn't open it until Red is dead?

Fangirl49

I think Red told him to open it if he ever left him.