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Miss Cam 05-02-2016 07:43 PM

Last Rites {5.21} - Episode Discussion
 
Last Rites {5.21} Episode Discussion

“Once Upon a Time,” SUNDAY, May 7th (8:00-9:00 p.m., ET) on the ABC Television Network.





DANGER LOOMS IN STORYBROOKE AS HADES GROWS MORE POWERFUL,
BUT CLASHING WITH HIM MEANS LIVES WILL BE LOST – AND SAVED – ON ABC’S ‘ONCE UPON A TIME’

Greg Germann Guest Stars as Hades, Amy Manson as Merida and Liam Garrigan as King Arthur


“Last Rites” — Emma, David, Regina, Robin and Henry are finally back home in Storybrooke and reunited with Snow, but, unfortunately, they still have to contend with Hades, who continues to deceive Zelena as he lays out his plan to use the all-powerful Olympian Crystal to take over the town. The heroes desperately search for a way to defeat Hades while Hook does the same in the Underworld, looking for those missing storybook pages. Regina and Robin take a more direct approach, which culminates in an epic showdown that will leave our heroes forever changed, on “Once Upon a Time,” SUNDAY, MAY 8 (8:00-9:00 p.m. EST), on the ABC Television Network.

“Once Upon a Time” stars Ginnifer Goodwin as Snow White/Mary Margaret, Jennifer Morrison as Emma Swan, Lana Parrilla as the Evil Queen/Regina, Josh Dallas as Prince Charming/David, Emilie de Ravin as Belle, Colin O’Donoghue as Hook, Jared S. Gilmore as Henry Mills, Sean Maguire as Robin Hood, Rebecca Mader as the Wicked Witch/Zelena and Robert Carlyle as Rumplestiltskin/Mr. Gold.

Guest stars include Lee Arenberg as Leroy/Grumpy, Beverley Elliott as Granny, Emma Caulfield as the Blind Witch, Amy Manson as Merida, Victoria Smurfit as Cruella De Vil, Liam Garrigan as King Arthur, David-Paul Grove as Doc, Gabe Khouth as Sneezy, Faustino Di Bauda as Sleepy, Michael Coleman as Happy, Mig Marcario as Bashful, Eric Keenleyside as Moe French, Raphael Alejandro as Roland, Michael P. Northey as Friar Tuck, Jason Burkart as Little John, David Hoflin as Zeus, Kiefer Bahrich as Sad-eyed Boy and Greg Germann as Hades.

“Last Rites” was written by Jerome Schwartz and directed by Craig Powell.

ABC


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Austenphile 05-08-2016 02:35 PM

TFTNT :flowers:

MiniAnneBoleynx8 05-08-2016 04:23 PM

TFTNT :flowers:

Very anxious for tonight’s episode, based on the previews it looks like we’re in for an emotional roller coaster.

IcyBerry 05-08-2016 06:02 PM

My Outlaw Queen loving heart just broke...:cry:

Jinzle 05-08-2016 06:04 PM

Thoughts on tonight.

1. Moe is an arse. Really? You would leave your daughter under an eternal sleeping curse rather than she be with a man you don't like?

2. All I could think about while Hades and Zelena were on the bridge is why they were standing in the rain with a baby and why was it raining in some places, but not others.

3. Zeus could reward Killian, but not Robin?

4. Is the Charming/Evil Queen feud starting up again?

5. The Crystal to awaken Belle? I want TLK, dang it.

6. Rumple and Hades? Rumple Rumple Rumple, what would Belle say? After that phone call you deserve a head slap. But you are so sexy when you are so bad.

fox24 05-08-2016 06:07 PM

I am a emotional wreck right now. I am happy for cs but sad for Robin

IrishWristWatch 05-08-2016 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Jinzle (Post 86028449)
Thoughts on tonight.

1. Moe is an arse. Really? You would leave your daughter under an eternal sleeping curse rather than she be with a man you don't like?

:( Doesn't surprise me at all

Quote:


3. Zeus could reward Killian, but not Robin?
I have faith they will fix this next week!

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6. Rumple and Hades? Rumple Rumple Rumple, what would Belle say? After that phone call you deserve a head slap. But you are so sexy when you are so bad.
"You're in MY kingdom now" :melt:

IrishWristWatch 05-08-2016 06:20 PM

Wow, that was so sad! :( :( :( RH’s death was a bit dark for OUAT, so I’m holding out hope for a decent sendoff next week!!! That was sweet and fitting that Zelena named their baby “Robin”. Nice to see Arthur redeem himself, he will be the new Lord of the Underworld and do right by everyone down there. Underwhelmed by Zeus, got myself too excited by hoping for a ridiculously ripped, angry guy shooting lightning bolts everywhere LOL

MiniAnneBoleynx8 05-08-2016 06:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jinzle (Post 86028449)
Thoughts on tonight.

1. Moe is an arse. Really? You would leave your daughter under an eternal sleeping curse rather than she be with a man you don't like?

2. All I could think about while Hades and Zelena were on the bridge is why they were standing in the rain with a baby and why was it raining in some places, but not others.

3. Zeus could reward Killian, but not Robin?

4. Is the Charming/Evil Queen feud starting up again?

5. The Crystal to awaken Belle? I want TLK, dang it.

6. Rumple and Hades? Rumple Rumple Rumple, what would Belle say? After that phone call you deserve a head slap. But you are so sexy when you are so bad.

^Agreed on all these points.

Also, when Zeus showed up I immediately thought, “Oh, maybe this will be Hermes” (both because in Greek mythology Hermes is the guide of souls and the actor looks very young, but...nope, guess it was zeus :P ). I want more of the gods!

As soon as I saw that OUAT was ACTUALLY giving Robin substantial screen time in the beginning, I feared he was a goner. :( While it’s great to see Zelena and Regina together, Robin did NOT deserve to die, especially being so underused. :(

The Captain Swan reunion was BEAUTIFUL :in_love: :love:

Also enjoyed the unexpected Hook/Arthur bromance(but someone needs to help poor Guinevere ASAP)

fox24 05-08-2016 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by MiniAnneBoleynx8 (Post 86028684)
^Agreed on all these points.

Also, when Zeus showed up I immediately thought, “Oh, maybe this will be Hermes” (both because in Greek mythology Hermes is the guide of souls and the actor looks very young, but...nope, guess it was zeus :P ). I want more of the gods!

As soon as I saw that OUAT was ACTUALLY giving Robin substantial screen time in the beginning, I feared he was a goner. :( While it’s great to see Zelena and Regina together, Robin did NOT deserve to die, especially being so underused. :(

The Captain Swan reunion was BEAUTIFUL :in_love: :love:

Also enjoyed the unexpected Hook/Arthur bromance(but someone needs to help poor Guinevere ASAP)

I agree with all of this

T'Lynn 05-08-2016 06:45 PM

I'm sad that Robin had to die. But man, I really enjoyed that episode!

Austenphile 05-08-2016 06:48 PM

If they would just permanently cut the flashbacks, we could have great episodes like this one where every character had a chance to shine all the time.

DR76 05-08-2016 07:02 PM

Screw this damn show, and screw A&E.

killianfan 05-08-2016 07:20 PM

I'm hoping next season we'll be rid of the flashbacks. These last two episodes have been brilliant emotional rollercoasters full of excellent writing and powerful acting.

I love Rumple at his most evil and his 'You're in MY kingdom now' made me cackle with glee. I want him to be evil forever. And I want him to be deliciously evil with Cruella, the queen of unrepentant sass.

Loved the Hook and Arthur teamup so much. The Hook/Emma reunion was beautiful and I'm looking forward to Regina going all Evil Queen and pulling herself back from it with the love of her friends and family.

Even David and Snow got moments with Emma that were beautiful.

I feel - nothing, sadly, about Robin dying. He was so underused, that I just didn't connect with him or care about him as a character.

Zeus couldn't bring Robin back because his soul literally disintegrated right in front of Regina. Hook's didn't.

rainydays6 05-08-2016 07:41 PM

I agree that the show should stop with the flashbacks. Last week and this weeks episodes were really balanced and didn't seem rushed.

I have not been a fan of Robin for sometime. I really liked the character and his potential and Outlaw Queen during season 3. I didn't like the way they went with him during season 4 and he was underused this season. I feel like he was just a prop for Regina and Zelena it's a shame because I really like Sean and am sad to see him leave.

Not really looking for Regina going back to being the Evil Queen, from the previews.
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Kelaine 05-08-2016 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Jinzle (Post 86028449)
3. Zeus could reward Killian, but not Robin?

I think Zeus was trying to tick off Hera after one of their fights when she made the mistake of telling him she's an OQ fan.

obisgirl 05-08-2016 08:14 PM

Hey, that's not nice. Someone's favorite died tonight. :nono: Jokes are really insensitive at this time.

sos75 05-08-2016 08:15 PM

Such an emotional episode. They really got me. I thought there was so way Hook was coming back when he met up with Zeus. So it was a great surprise when he came back. Loved that scene. But so sad about Robin. For a minute, I was thinking maybe he didn't die because Rumple still had his heart for some reason. But then seeing his soul basically say goodbye to Regina and disappear was the end of that possibility. Who knows, maybe he can come back somehow because I thought Hook was done for. Such an emotional episode. I'm still feeling it.

fox24 05-08-2016 08:19 PM

I am hoping that they can at least save Robin soul

baelfire24 05-08-2016 08:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by obisgirl (Post 86030081)
Hey, that's not nice. Someone's favorite died tonight. :nono: Jokes are really insensitive at this time.

:nod:

Against_all_odds 05-08-2016 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by sos75 (Post 86030087)
Such an emotional episode. They really got me. I thought there was so way Hook was coming back when he met up with Zeus. So it was a great surprise when he came back. Loved that scene. But so sad about Robin. For a minute, I was thinking maybe he didn't die because Rumple still had his heart for some reason. But then seeing his soul basically say goodbye to Regina and disappear was the end of that possibility. Who knows, maybe he can come back somehow because I thought Hook was done for. Such an emotional episode. I'm still feeling it.

I'd love to believe it,but based on the preview,I doubt it. They need Regina to be evil in her moment of grief. Henry can then make magic disappear forever in an effort to fix things.

Poor Robin-I called it,but I wasn't sure. OQ is a pretty popular ship and unlike Swan Queen, everyone's behind it. I guess Regina and Zelena will have to raise Robin and Roland together.

I'm really surprised that Zelena was the one to kill Hades. I thought Emma or Regina would do it. I feel so bad for her. Someone loved her,but he made her pick. What are the odds that anyone else will love her?

Hook's return reminded me of Harry Potter and so did his quest with Arthur. I like the idea of him ruling the underworld-No one's going to care if he's selfish and evil now. I feel sorry for Milah,but she was a minor character.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jinzle (Post 86028449)
Thoughts on tonight.

1. Moe is an arse. Really? You would leave your daughter under an eternal sleeping curse rather than she be with a man you don't like?

2. All I could think about while Hades and Zelena were on the bridge is why they were standing in the rain with a baby and why was it raining in some places, but not others.

3. Zeus could reward Killian, but not Robin?

4. Is the Charming/Evil Queen feud starting up again?

5. The Crystal to awaken Belle? I want TLK, dang it.

6. Rumple and Hades? Rumple Rumple Rumple, what would Belle say? After that phone call you deserve a head slap. But you are so sexy when you are so bad.

:lol:

It's not going to teach her a lesson, which is what he's aiming or. Nothing can make her stop getting hurt time and time again.

I never get that part in a show or movie when it rains in some places,but doesn't in others.

I don't want the Charming/EQ feud to go on again. What makes this show so special is that they ended it. All the other remixes,reboots and whatnot don't have that.

What I don't get is why TLK has to do with morality. It's about love,not good or evil. If it doesn't work,then it means she's not his true love. Belle would be furious with him about the phone call and he deserves more than a head slap. This is why I bash his character-Why does he keep doing this to her? If evil is who he is and she can't accept that, then they shouldn't be together. He should be with Cruella or someone who can be evil with him. Until she died,I shipped him with Cora. She saw him as is and never saw the need to change him or make him anything. Coward,Dark One...it didn't matter.

Jinzle 05-09-2016 03:17 AM

I think this is the first time a villain had zero back story. Why did Zeus stop his heart and place him in the underworld. What kind of man was he before? I think if we could have seen some of that, we might have been able to understand why Zelena wasn't enough and even have some sympathy for him. As it was, he was just a one dimensional mustache twisting villain.

scififan2009 05-09-2016 04:06 AM

No time for flashbacks. There was too much going on in this episode.

Against_all_odds 05-09-2016 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Jinzle (Post 86032428)
I think this is the first time a villain had zero back story. Why did Zeus stop his heart and place him in the underworld. What kind of man was he before? I think if we could have seen some of that, we might have been able to understand why Zelena wasn't enough and even have some sympathy for him. As it was, he was just a one dimensional mustache twisting villain.

I think it was for the same reason Robin didn't get much backstory. Everyone knows Greek mythology and the story of Robin Hood. I think they made a mistake, though. I didn't watch Hercules and they can't assume that everyone in their audience has seen every single movie they've ever made. I never saw Brace and only know about Frozen because it was shoved down my throat.

I think what unlike her,he couldn't move on from his hatred. He wanted and needed revenge too badly. He didn't why she could possibly be angry with him for killing the father of her child. Zelena never planned on killing him,she planned on taking the baby away.

I feel so bad for OQ fans. It's almost as bad as it is for Swanfire fans. There was no need to kill off Neal, they just needed to do something with his character. I dislike how they handle characters they don't know how to deal with. Take Mulan, for example. I know Aurora and Mulan didn't happen b/c Jamie was leaving,but why couldn't she be with Merida or Ruby? They didn't even show her exploits with the merry men. They handled the Camelot storyline terribly and it was just a giant mess.

This EQ thing is going to be stupid. It's just like when Emma went dark. Swan Queen's love saves the day and everything is wonderful again. Henry can order pizza and they can watch tv.

scififan2009 05-09-2016 07:39 AM

Poor Zelena. Now she has to raise Robin all by herself.


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