I don't think it worked for most people, most the fans I talked to were just really frustrated with the second half of season 1!

Unfortunately, I do have experience with CW shows, & I agree that they give fans what they want, but I think they do it too much imo & tend to give in too easily, & they tend to give into the the fans that yell the loudest because they assume that htey represent the majority even though they don't. I think that's different with HoD, never before have a seen a supposed 'triangle' where one side is so much more popular than the other. & you don't have to try very hard to find it. I mean look at this thread, look at what couple the critics focus on, look at the HoD tag on tumblr. I don't know how anyone could miss it.

Unfortunately, I do have experience with CW shows, & I agree that they give fans what they want

I don't think it worked for most people, most the fans I talked to were just really frustrated with the second half of season 1!

Unfortunately, I do have experience with CW shows, & I agree that they give fans what they want, but I think they do it too much imo & tend to give in too easily, & they tend to give into the the fans that yell the loudest because they assume that htey represent the majority even though they don't. I think that's different with HoD, never before have a seen a supposed 'triangle' where one side is so much more popular than the other. & you don't have to try very hard to find it. I mean look at this thread, look at what couple the critics focus on, look at the HoD tag on tumblr. I don't know how anyone could miss it.

I am so glad I marathoned season 1 and didn't have to wait a week in between the second half episodes. Question: what was the promo for the finale like? Did you get any indication there was hope for WZ then?

I agree with you, Sophie, I do think some execs give into what they perceive as the majority... I can't speak to CW but I've seen it on other shows. I think the online fandom is such a minor percentage of a fanbase, it's silly to listen to it too much. I'm just so happy that what we want seems to line up with what the focus groups and media want. I'm not saying there aren't people who dislike them, but it really is quite amazing HOW popular these two are. It gets me through darker times I think.

You'd be amazed. Apparently little old grannies are sitting at home without access to the internet and are fans of the other side.

I do agree. It is strange. As I said, I'm new to the CW type shows. HoD worked for me because yes it feels like an old WB show or something light. I don't know. I guess I had nothing better to watch on Mondays. But I was also one of those who was frustrated with the 2nd half. It seemed rushed and forced. It felt like in order to balance the triangle they had to make Zoe suddenly decide that she was in love with George.

But yes the fans seem to be overwhelmingly in support of WZ.

I do realize that the internet fandom make up the small amount of the audience, but I think most of the audience probably aren't that invested in the triangle & will continue to watch while they enjoy the show overall. But I do think that the ZW fandom online must be kind of representative of how many people who don't go online support them them too...if that makes sense?

I am so glad I marathoned season 1 and didn't have to wait a week in between the second half episodes. Question: what was the promo for the finale like? Did you get any indication there was hope for WZ then?

I agree with you, Sophie, I do think some execs give into what they perceive as the majority... I can't speak to CW but I've seen it on other shows. I think the online fandom is such a minor percentage of a fanbase, it's silly to listen to it too much. I'm just so happy that what we want seems to line up with what the focus groups and media want. I'm not saying there aren't people who dislike them, but it really is quite amazing HOW popular these two are. It gets me through darker times I think.

Makes total sense. I sat at home as a casual fan last season and never got online to talk about them until after the finale. Although I leaned toward ZW. My husband watches with me and he thinks GZ have no depth. So I think that makes perfect sense.

I think the other problem with this is that fanbases that shippers are often a lot more vocal when their couple aren't together, then they get together & the opposing couple suddenly seem like they're in the majority. I've seen it with triangles over & over.

I think the other problem with this is that fanbases that shippers are often a lot more vocal when their couple aren't together, then they get together & the opposing couple suddenly seem like they're in the majority. I've seen it with triangles over & over.