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Old 09-01-2017, 12:51 AM
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Oh gosh, please no full beard.
I love a good scruff, not a fan of beards.
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Old 09-01-2017, 08:22 AM
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Glad that you're on team No Beard too, Paula.

Analysis of the Bellamy/Kane scene in 4X07, worth a read.

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But what I really want to talk about is Beard Dad and Bellamy having it out over a radio. First of all, I’m really glad both Ian and Bob got some solid material for their highlight reels because they both acted the **** out of those scenes with just radios to play towards. But everything was gut wrenching and in character, because Kane was parenting the **** out of everyone and nobody was having it, not even his Favorite Son Slash Trainee Dad.

People have already said it already, but thank all that is holy for a Bellamy story that did not revolve around the massacre, but who he is as a person. And who he is as a person is someone who will save the person in front of him every goddamn time, no matter the risk. But lately, he’s been fading because he keeps trying to protect people and no matter what, they’re leaving him or dying and he’s utterly powerless against the oncoming radiation. Bellamy telling those men that he wasn’t coming was agonizing to watch, and it reminded me of Bellamy finding Atom in the woods– he’s helpless and all he can do is listen to them die. He can’t even give them mercy like Clarke did for Atom. It’s a stark moment, and we feel every last bit of despair that Bellamy has been fighting for weeks.

And man, poor Kane. He was dadding Bellamy as best he could, but Kane has put his season one self so firmly in the past he forgot that not everyone has. Bellamy bringing up Kane’s role in his mother’s death complicates their relationship in a really challenging way, because so much of who Bellamy is now is because he lost her. He’s been carrying that guilt and anger around on his own for years, and you could tell it hurt him just a little to unload it on Kane, as deserved as it might be. (It’s also a very on-brand moment for the Blake Siblings, and let’s have a moment of reflection to thank the new writers who managed to nail this in one ****ing episode). I am really interested to see where Bellamy is next episode, because “not wanting to be saved” is a really bleak place for him, but it’s also a place he’s been headed for this whole season and I cannot wait to see that arc come to fruition.
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Old 09-01-2017, 12:07 PM
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Kane was parenting the **** out of everyone and nobody was having it, not even his Favorite Son Slash Trainee Dad.
I love this part


That was such a powerful scene and an important moment in their relationship. I didn't think about the connection to Atom, though there are other instances where I'm sure Bellamy felt the same about being helpless to save someone. Gina comes to mind at the moment.

That person seems like they interpreted Bellamy's line about not wanting to be save as being about himself, which is how I initially took it as well. But based on the rest of the season I think Bellamy actually did seem to take that line to heart more of how Kane intended it
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Oh gosh, please no full beard.
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I feel the same.
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Old 09-02-2017, 12:33 AM
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That person seems like they interpreted Bellamy's line about not wanting to be save as being about himself, which is how I initially took it as well. But based on the rest of the season I think Bellamy actually did seem to take that line to heart more of how Kane intended it
That's exactly how I interpreted it initially as well ... until I came online after the show and saw that more people saw it as him referring to Octavia instead. Ultimately, it did seemed like it referred to both of them.

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Old 09-02-2017, 01:24 AM
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Oh, you know, I never even considered the line to be about Bellamy himself, I immediately took it to be about Octavia
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Somehow this struck me out of the text Sarah:
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And man, poor Kane. He was dadding Bellamy as best he could, but Kane has put his season one self so firmly in the past he forgot that not everyone has.
I don't know if I agree and yet I can't say that I disagree. It's an interesting point to me.

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Old 09-02-2017, 07:05 AM
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I'm totally on team full-beard for Kane.

But never again do I want to see clean-shaven, short-haired Kane
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Old 09-02-2017, 07:14 AM
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Oh, not even for Kane do I support the full on beard
I do agree he should never go back to short-haired clean-shaven
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Old 09-02-2017, 07:54 AM
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And man, poor Kane. He was dadding Bellamy as best he could, but Kane has put his season one self so firmly in the past he forgot that not everyone has.
I'm probably more on the side of agreeing with this, Paula. I feel like out of the two, Bellamy probably still sees himself as Season 1 Bellamy at times but Kane hasn't or at least, I don't get the impression (from his behaviour) that he does.
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Old 09-04-2017, 01:35 PM
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Poor Kane in the first gif. His son just pushing him aside to rescue Clarke.
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I like the last gif most ... Kane has so much empathy for Bellamy ... he knows exactly what is going on in Bellamy's head there
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He knows Bellamy's heart. It showed in that scene.
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I like the last gif most ... Kane has so much empathy for Bellamy ... he knows exactly what is going on in Bellamy's head there
Kane gets it.

I always thought that the GIF in the last scene was interestingly shot ... Kane looking at Bellamy reacting to Clarke's words/actions.
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