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Old 06-04-2009, 10:38 AM
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TTSCC News Thread #3: Because now we know Josh feels the same pain we do.

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BOY IN THE BUBBLE
So where was I?

Oh. Right.

I had this little scary robot show and for whatever reason couldn't convince enough people that it was a) scary enough b) robot enough or c) in English. Add that dim sum combo of factors to a red bean paste of non-monetizable early adopters dvring the show like mother****ers and now I'm unemployed.

Everyone says having your show cancelled is like a death but I've been dead before and at least when you're dead you don't get thrown off the Warner Bros. lot for haunting your old parking space. They probably mean it's like the death of a friend or a family member but that **** only hurts when it's YOUR friend or family member and even then it's mitigated by age, lifestyle and whether that person was a Hollywood friend or a real one and whether that family member left you money.

Losing your show is more like a surprise divorce where you get served papers in the morning and your (ex)wife is ****ing Human Target by three in the afternoon using the same time slot your child was conceived in and also where she did that one thing that one time on your birthday.

People say the bright side to losing your show is gaining time to spend with your family but I'm pretty sure that waking up next to your ex-showrunner spouse whom you haven't seen for two and a half years is pretty close to waking up next to that special someone you met the night before at Carlos n' Charlie's in Cancun on Spring Break.

WIFE: Oh...It's you.
EX-SHOWRUNNER: Hey baby.
WIFE: You look...different than I remember.
EX-SHOWRUNNER: I've gone a little grey.
WIFE: Or a little fat.
EX-SHOWRUNNER: Pretty sure it's grey.
WIFE: Pretty sure...fat. Was I...drunk?
EX-SHOWRUNNER: Drunk? When?
WIFE: I don't know. The whole time?

You should own your self-inflicted wounds if for no other reason than a) they are yours and b) you inflicted them, you dumb mother****er, but I do want to say in my own defense that it takes a special kind of someone to work seventy hours a week where it is HALLOWEEN 24****ING7 and not pack on a few--

WIFE: Dozen.

A dozen--

WIFE: A few dozen.

a few dozen pounds fine I get it. A few dozen pounds consisting mainly of but not limited to: Chocolate Pop Tarts, Twinkies, Ding Dongs, double-decker PB&Js, pink and white animal cookies, duck sandwiches, maricopa almonds, stinky cheese, french bread, deer in a thai curry peppercorn sauce, trail mix with the peanuts picked out, breakfast sausage, pistachios, Diet Coke, large Jamba Juices, those little Butterfingers, lox when we had Zvi the Israeli P.A., and sushi.

And I'm willing to own that. Especially the sushi part.

One of the hardest parts of having your show cancelled is the part BEFORE it's cancelled, when it's "on the bubble". The absolute hardest part of that, besides the phrase "on the bubble," is everyone gets it in their head that you actually know what's happening with your show and you're just not telling them. No one believes the show's fate is in the air, they believe the fate's been decided, you know the fate, but you're just not sharing it with anybody. Now understand this: at any one time on a show there are over TWO HUNDRED people working on a show. OVER TWO HUNDRED FAMILIES DERIVING THEIR INCOME FROM YOUR LITTLE CREATIVE ENDEAVOR.

What kind of ****ing ******* would I be if I knew they were all going to be out of work in a month but just didn't feel it was politically expedient to tell them?

CONSCIENCE: Hey. Buddy. That grip's wife is having a baby in two months. He's thinking of leaving to work on a feature.

******* ME: We're cancelled in two weeks.

CONSCIENCE: We gotta tell him.

******* ME: Nah. People leaving. Bad for morale. Not politically expedient.

Who but a heartless cocksucker would stop someone from getting other work knowing they had no future at their current job? (Other than William Morris and Endeavor, that is.)

But I progress.

I guess there were signs that the show was in trouble (other than the 1.3 rating and the four share). First there was the day I was in my office and looked up to see Chuck Lorre and a Warner Bros. facilities manager standing in my doorway pointing to various features and using their hands to take "air measurements." (Chuck tried to play it off like waving to me God Bless him, but I know an air measurement when I see it.)

I know what you're all thinking: Chuck Lorre needs office space? What the **** for? Doesn't he already have office space spread out all over half the ****ing studio? Isn't it enough that Charlie Sheen's trailer is the size of Waylon Jennings' tour bus and it blocks the best way to ride a golf cart from a certain scary robot writer's office to a particular scary robot sound stage? There's only 2 and half men for ****'s sake, and one of them's like, six years old or something.

You think MR. CHUCK ****ING LORRE that just because you've pimped my show on Big Bang that you can stand out in my hallway with a basket waiting for the guillotine to fall and my head to roll right to you? Do you think you can do that? Air measurer?

Damn right you can. You're Chuck ****ing Lorre and you own my ass.

But Chuck didn't take my office--I believe he said something about my private bathroom having a non-platinum sink--and what I thought was good news soon became anything but. Because while you may be a bubble show to your family and your fans, as far as the studio goes the minute your show wraps you are a deadbeat renter who's already forfeited his cleaning deposit.

It was Open Season on the Sarah Connor Suite as My Room of Ones Own soon became the Potential Room of Any Jackass Pilot Producer who Thought His Show was getting Picked Up. And believe me, there's a lot of those *******s. Poking their heads in, hopped up on good test scores in the key demos, power-drunk and showing off their spanking new laminated Warner Bros. ID card hanging off a lanyard like a ****ty USC freshman and her Spring Weekend mug.

And yet. No one took it.

I was starting to feel like Grandma's hand-knit afghan at the garage sale that starts out a keepsake you couldn't part with but ends up as the substitute for styrofoam peanuts when you need to wrap up the six matching sunflower pattern kitchen glasses your mother gave you when you left for college.

Eventually I cracked and started taking the whole thing personally. I'd hear them coming and start screaming "Vultures! Vultures! Come in vultures!" It was that John Irving novel with the orphans and the older ones just know they're ****ed and they start rejecting the parents before they can be rejected--

(It's here that I just want to note that I haven't read "that John Irving novel" but I'm pretty sure I saw a movie based on "a John Irving novel" and I feel like that scene was in the movie and should've been if it wasn't.)

--I really did this. Forget the John Irving thing. I really did yell this at people. No one thought it was funny. Well. I did.

I also considered renting the office back from Warner Bros., myself. It was a romantic gesture, or a lazy one, as I had a huge stuffed cow and a Lego Tower of Babel that I couldn't fit into the back of my Chrysler. As it turns out, the studio will rent you back their offices, but at THE SAME RATE THE PRODUCTION PAYS, which, while I can't remember the exact amount, worked out to something around $450,000 a month. But that did include the private bathroom with the non-platinum sink.

Eventually the day came when I was evicted from the room I'd written thirty episodes of my very first television show. I packed a very large SUV with a very large amount of computer equipment, scripts, DVDs, Sarah Connor memorabilia, something that may or may not have been many half-empty tequila bottles, some office supplies I don't want to talk about, and possibly some gum and trail mix. Despite the show NOT yet being cancelled, I was the last person to leave the empty building and would've turned the lights out if I was paying for the electricity.

I drove up to the security gate and prepared to be waved through, knowing there was a good chance this was the last time I'd be on this lot in my capacity as Executive Producer of Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles. It was after 8:00 and that meant I was guaranteed a "trunk check," a phenomenal Hellerian ritual by which the guards checked your trunk and NO MATTER WHAT WAS IN THERE let you leave the lot. I had never known ANYONE to EVER explain themselves regarding the contents of their trunk during the trunk check ritual. I think this has even happened:

GUARD: Trunk please.
ANONYMOUS TV PRODUCER: Sure, Frank. How's the kids?
GUARD/FRANK: Good. Good. (Checks trunk) Is that Bugs Bunny in there?
ANONYMOUS TV PRODUCER: Yeah. I roofied him.
GUARD/FRANK: Sure. Yeah. Looks that way.
ANONYMOUS TV PRODUCER: I'll probably bring him back tomorrow.
GUARD/FRANK: All righty. Make sure to call him a drive on, though. Otherwise we can't let him on.
ANONYMOUS TV PRODUCER: Of course. I'm no rookie, Frank.

So on my final official day on the lot I pull to the guard shack with my SUV full of EVERYTHING.

GUARD: Hey. How're you tonight?
ME: Last night, Frank. Last night on the lot.
GUARD: Looks that way. That your whole office in there?
ME: Pretty much.

As I start to pull away--

GUARD: You got your property sheet?
ME: Excuse me?
GUARD: Your property sheet. Like an inventory sheet. With all of this inventoried and signed off on by the production.
ME: What?
GUARD: I'm gonna have to ask you to turn around and return to the lot, go to your production offices, and get an executive to inventory all of this, certify it as yours, and then sign the sheet. Then you can leave.
ME: Frank. Let me explain something. There is nobody else. I'm it.
GUARD: Well someone is going to have to list, certify, and sign.
ME: Someone? Like who someone?
GUARD: Someone. A producer. Someone.

And then it hit me.

ME: Frank! I'm that someone! It's my show! I am the someone that I'm looking for!
GUARD: Wait. Who are you?
ME: I'm Josh Friedman, Frank! And until I drive past this guard shack I am the Executive Producer of this tv show! I am the someone! Can't I give myself permission to leave?

At which point Frank went to the guard shack. A line of cars had formed behind me, wondering what kind of **** up was holding up the line at nine o' clock at night. Frank returned with a form, in triplicate.

GUARD: List the items. Certify they're yours. Sign off.
ME: I am, in essence, authorizing myself to leave and thus no longer be the Executive Producer.
GUARD: As far as we're concerned, yes.
ME: Works for me.

And so I did. And so I had. And so I wasn't.

As I drove off I rummaged through the questionable office supplies for a piece of gum. Stuck it in my mouth, accelerating onto Barham Blvd. into the night. I blew a bubble.

It would be another month before it popped.
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Old 06-04-2009, 10:45 AM
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Oh, I didn't even notice it was time for a new news thread! Thanks Kem!
Good title, very fitting.
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Old 06-04-2009, 10:50 AM
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I didn't really either till I looked over at my comment and it said #302, I was like WHAT?

Ya, your comment helped me come up with it!

Oh Josh, I want to just buy him some ice cream or something.
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Old 06-04-2009, 10:56 AM
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Haha omg i laughed so hard then i became sad

I want to give Josh a hug and tell him to put the script of 3.01 on the net so we can see what would have happened
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Old 06-04-2009, 11:02 AM
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Good thinking Stella. First offer sympathy and then make your demands!
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Old 06-04-2009, 04:53 PM
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I don't think he had an actual script drafted for S3 EP1 but we all know he had a plan for something. He should share!

Terminator Salvation Made Me Miss Sarah Connor Chronicles More
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I can't remember if this one was posted before...
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Old 06-04-2009, 11:29 PM
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Wouldnt u want to know what would of happened in 301
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Old 06-04-2009, 11:41 PM
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Offcourse I would Stella, but Josh isn't going to give up what he had planned. He's pissed off at Fox and WB right now, maybe sometime when he's calmed down a little he might give us some of his plannes for season 3...

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io9 - Terminator Salvation Made Me Miss Sarah Connor Chronicles More - Terminator Salvation
I can't remember if this one was posted before...
I posted it a while back. It's a wonderful tribute to tscc. Why did I have to read it again. I hate that I have to cry everyday about this damn thing! I'd like some good news for a chainge please.


So I guess WB wants to know when we first begame tscc fans.
Twitter / TheWB.com: I hear ur proclamations of ...

Hmm...
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Wow, this title is kinda of depressing
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These are depressing times we live in...

There hasn't actually been any good news for a long time.
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Yeah, would be great to get some happy for once...
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Wow, this title is kinda of depressing
I didn't mean for it to be but looking back...yes it kind of is.

Oh wow, I didn't realize the WB site had TSCC episodes on it: Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles: Watch Full Episodes on TheWB.com

That's awesome! Up to Queen's Gambit at least and it says Catch the rest of TERMINATOR:THE SARAH CONNOR CHRONICLES Season 1 starting 6/8/09!. Well, at least we have episodes.
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America, the land of freedom and free TSCC episodes on WB.com! Should be our new logo.

'Sarah Connor Chronicles' ' Josh Friedman bares all
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Fox canceled "Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles" a couple of weeks ago, citing the usual excuse -- lousy ratings. Now that he's had a little time to ponder the finality of the situation, Josh Friedman, the Warner Bros.-produced show's executive producer, has discarded his initial response -- advising angry fans to "do yourself a favor and find a way to get past it" -- and let it all hang out.

Having clearly built up a nice head of steam brooding in his tent for the past two weeks, Friedman has put up a post on his wonderful blog (called "I Find Your Lack of Faith Disturbing") that is a model for all writers and producers in search of discovering the appropriate nuclear reaction to failure.

In other words, he's decided to let it rip, to get in touch with his inner gonzo self and blow a few gaskets. It's hard to remember a more impassioned, profane and emotionally raw response to the brutish plight of TV cancellation. Or as Friedman puts it: "Everyone says having your show canceled is like a death, but I've been dead before and at least when you're dead you don't get thrown off the Warner Bros. lot for haunting your old parking space."

And hey, if there were ever any doubt, he knows how to write killer dialogue, spiced with a savory blend of droll irony and self-loathing. Here's an imaginary conversation he has with his wife after getting the bad news, which unfolds only after he reminds people who say the good side of losing a show is that you get to spend more time with your family that "I'm pretty sure that waking up next to your ex-showrunner spouse whom you haven't seen for two and a half years is pretty close to waking up next to that special someone you met the night before at Carlos 'n Charlie's in Cancun on Spring Break":

WIFE: Oh...it's you.

EX-SHOWRUNNER: Hey baby.

WIFE: You look...different than I remember.

EX-SHOWRUNNER: I've gone a bit grey.

WIFE: Or a little fat.

EX-SHOWRUNNER: Pretty sure its grey.

WIFE: Pretty sure...fat. Was I...drunk?

EX-SHOWRUNNER: Drunk? When?

WIFE: I don't know. The whole time?


There's oh-so-many-more wonderful observations about the small, subtle humiliations of transitory TV life, especially the painful experience of spending weeks in "on the bubble" purgatory, waiting for the network to finally lower the boom everyone knows is coming. Of all the signals of impending doom, here's what surely must've been the worst: "I guess there were signs that the show was in trouble (other than the 1.3 rating and the four share). First there was the day I was in my office and looked up to see Chuck Lorre and a Warner Bros. facility manager standing in my doorway pointing to various features and using their hands to take 'air measurements.' Chuck tried to play it off like waving to me God Bless him, but I know an air measurement when I see it."

Josh, I feel your pain and I promise to buy the DVD for the final season when it arrives. You've joined the honored company of show runners whose blood and sweat was rewarded by an abrupt, all too premature burial. Just remember what they say in "The Godfather": Revenge is a dish best served cold.
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Hahahahahah
I love how it says revenge is the best dish served cold
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