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JohnღCameron #5: B/C S2 comes out of John's embarrassment over realizing in EP1 that he might love Cameron - J.Friedman

Welcome to the 5th
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Appreciation thread




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Honorary Shippers

1. Thomas Dekker
2. Summer Glau
3. Josh Friedman
4. Ashley Edward Miller


Thomas and Summer Quotes:


Interviewer: Do you think Cameron's his first love?
Thomas Dekker: Yeah, I do. I've always looked, we've always looked at it that whether he wants to admit it or
not or whether he tries to forget it, he's still totally, you know...
I mean, she's kind of, it's that strange thing - it's that she lives to protect him and she's beautiful, it's [complicated].
Rants & Reviews - Interview: Thomas Dekker Talks Love and Salvation on "The Sarah Connor Chronicles" | TheFutonCritic.com

Interviewer: Cameron isn't liking John's girlfriend Riley too much these days, is she?
Summer Glau: No, and I think it's more than her just being worried that
Riley's a threat. She doesn't like having her place taken over by somebody else.

Interviewer: And what do you mean by "her place"?
Summer Glau: Well, Cameron only exists to take care of John and be with him at all times,
and he keeps trying to spend time alone with Riley. That leaves Cameron feeling like she doesn't have a purpose.
So it's really uncomfortable for her — if it's possible for a robot to feel uncomfortable.

Interviewer: Do you enjoy playing the pseudo-jealousy thing between Cameron, John and Riley?
Summer Glau: I love it. It adds so much dimension to Cameron, and it's fun to figure out how
far to take it. You don't want to take it too far, but I do want to insinuate that it's there.
Summer Glau: TV's Terminator Sets Sights on Shocking Reveals - Today's News: Our Take | TVGuide.com

"Cameron's deep love for John is because he is her whole reason for existing... I think that is love, and I think she
would do anything for him, and in her reality, I think that's what love is for her."
She added that she's not sure where Friedman is going with the character, but she always plays it as if
she does feel something for John. io9 - Summer Glau Explains The Nature Of Robot Love - terminator

"There is a definite chemistry between Cameron and John but that technically shouldn't be possible and that's
blurring the line between human and robot."

"I think he's heartbroken when he finds out that she's not human. I think he definitely had some high hopes. We'll see where it goes."

"I think he's already attracted to her. We tried to play that in the pilot but what can he do? We'll see. We'll see where that goes.
There's an interesting dynamic developing between them because they both have this adoration for each other because
she's what keeps him alive every day and he's her reason for being."
Thomas Dekker is on the run - CraveOnline.com

I love our stuff cause I think that you know, especially last year John was very rude to you often but it was to mask that he
was still in love with you and ya know, who knows, I don't know what Cameron feels.
But there's moments like near the end of the season when I put your chip back in your head, there's little reminders. - Thomas Dekker

They have this bond where they're as tight as family. They were flung together it's kind of,
but you're trying to pull away and I think that's one of the best things about Season 2. - Summer Glau

She also confused because John is really turning away from her and her whole purpose in life is to protect him so
when she's gone she's...lost. And she's having a really hard time with him having another girl in his life.
He meets this girl at school and I like to think that Cameron is somewhat jealous. I know she can't really be jealous
but as close to jealous and threatened. Ya know, just her position is threatened. - Summer Glau

Interviewer: Okay, moving onto Cameron and your relationship with her. Now, it kind of makes me a little bit uneasy sometimes.
Thomas: It's tough when you fall in love with a robot!
(...)
Interviewer: You're going to off all his girlfriends, aren't you?
Summer: Well, I've thought about it.
Interviewer: Ya.
Summer: He has a girlfriend this season, ya know.
Interviewer: and you don't off her?
Summer: Well, I've been trying to talk the writers into it...*laugh* no, not really. You know what I like about it?
I love that I'm getting to explore the idea that, a machine can't really be jealous but Cameron is threatened by it.
(BTS - Terminator:tSCC)






credit: Alexa

John & Cameron Quotes:
Season 1


Pilot (1x01)
Cameron: What's your name?
John: John.
Cameron: Cameron.

Cameron: You're full of secrets. You didn't tell me you were in this class. You any good with them?
John: I'm okay, I guess.
Cameron: They scare the heck out of me if you want to know the truth. Do you want to get together after school
sometime? Maybe help me with this computer stuff?
John: I really can't, I'm sorry.
Cameron: Oh.
John: No, I'd really like to, it's just, I usually have to help my mom...
Cameron: It's okay.
(deleted scene)

John: I lied to you yesterday. My dad doesn't sell insurance. He's dead. He was a soldier. He was killed on a mission.
Cameron: I'm sorry.
John: It's all right. My mom was pregnant with me when it happened. I never even knew him.
So it's all right... My mom, she... she... she's kind of uptight. Actually, no, she's really uptight.
She likes me to come home straight after school and hang out with her and that kind of thing, you know? I'm all she's got.
Cameron: Thank you for explaining. It'll be our secret.

Cameron: Come with me if you want to live.

Cameron: Back at school, you apologized for lying to me. So I should apologize for lying to you.
John: It's all right. I get it. You needed to get close to me. It's just the way you're... programmed.
Like some hot girl is really gonna try and make friends with the new weird kid. If I'd have thought about it,
I would've known something was messed up, you know?
Cameron: In the future, you have many friends.
John: What model are you? Are you new? You seem... different.
Cameron: I am.

Gnothi Seauton (1x02)
John: So if I was to walk right by one...
Cameron: They'll walk right by you. They don't know what you look like.
John: That's really awesome.
Sarah: And what if they found out who he was? Would they all know what to do then?
Cameron: They do.

The Turk (1x03)

John: You won’t fool anyone.
Cameron: I fooled you.

Sarah (To Cameron): Nobody dies until I say so. (To John) Tell her.
Cameron: People die all the time, they won’t wait for her.
(awkward silence)
Cameron: I fooled you again.

Cameron: Do you like this color on me?
John: What?
Cameron: I'm a bitch whore.
John: What?
Cameron: I have a new friend.
John: Did she call you a bitch whore?
Cameron: No, she cried.
John: Wait, what?!

Queen's Gambit (1x05)
John: You're really good at math.
Cameron: Yes.
John: You wanna do mine?
Cameron: Yes.

John: Sometimes things happen and they're so bad, that people just don't know how to deal with their
sadness, so they write it in a note.
Cameron: But I thought people cried when they were sad.
John: Sometimes it's not enough.

John: I call shotgun.
Cameron: I call nine millimeter.

Cameron: I already did your homework.
John: Yeah, I know, but I still have to take the test. I need to know this stuff.
Cameron: Then why did you ask me to do it?
John: Because maybe it's kinda hard to concentrate on geometry when people keep dying around you.
You have no idea what I'm talking about, do you?
Cameron: You're grieving.
John: Grieving? How do you know what grieving is?
Cameron: I read all the notes.

Dungeons & Dragons (1x06)
John: And what information do you have about Kyle Reese?
Cameron: Imprisoned at Century Sector work camp with John, 2015. Escaped with John, 2021.
He was officially declared MIA in 2027 after being assigned to protect Sarah from a Skynet attack.
John: Is that all?
Cameron: Seems like a lot.
John: It is.

Vick's Chip (1x08)
John: So how often do you lie?
Cameron: When the mission requires it.
John: Do you lie to me?
Cameron: Sometimes.
John: About important things?
Cameron: Yes, important things.

John: Wow, what a mess. How the hell do you keep your brain organized?
Cameron: Not like yours.
John: No kidding.

John: You scared the hell outta me. How long you been sitting there?
Cameron: A little while. That was effective. What he did, when he touched her lips.
John: Effective?
Cameron: I could see that she liked that.
John: What are you doing? No. When you say things like that, what are you doing?
Cameron: Just making conversation.
John: Since when do you just make conversation?
Cameron: I don't know. It just seems like something I should do.
John: Well, was having Morris impersonate me with that cop also something you thought you should do, no matter what happened to him?
Cameron: Yes. But it wasn't a cop. It was Cromartie.
John: What? W- What?
Cameron: He's going school to school looking for you. Trying to match your face. He's moved on though. He won't go back there. I wouldn't.
John: The only way that I'm reassured by that is if I remember that in the core of your chip you're just like him.
Oh, god. She'll move us so fast. You cannot tell her, okay? Promise me.
Sarah: Hey. Do I smell nail polish? What are you guys talking about?
Cameron: Just making conversation.
(Cameron winks at John before she leaves)

Cameron: Two centimeters left. One centimeter down. Cut a semicircle with a diameter of 12 centimeters.
John: Is it okay if I'm off by a little bit?
Cameron: Yes. Cut a bigger circle to compensate.
Sarah: How exactly is this gonna work?
John: Her neural network is the most sophisticated learning computer on earth. If we can get her chip into the A.R.T.I.E. System,
it can take over the whole thing. Just like Vick did with my laptop. She can kill it. You can get in through a traffic light?
John: Yes.
Sarah: Are you sure?
John: No.
Sarah: Are you sure?
Cameron: No. Start the incision. Push harder, down to my endoskeleton.
Derek: Sarah. Once she's in the city's mainframe, what's to say she'll come back out? You know, maybe-
Maybe it's not the Turk that created Skynet. Maybe it's her. Maybe this was her plan all along.
John: She's a machine. She doesn't have a soul and she never will. You don't have to trust her. You can trust me.
Cameron: Good. Set the pliers over the shielded tab on the end of the chip. A half turn counter-clockwise and pull it out.
It's okay, John. It's not the first time we've done this.

(John puts back Cameron's chip. As he waits for her to wake up, he strokes her face & then she awakens)
John: What was it like? What'd you see in there?
Cameron: I saw everything.

What He Beheld (1x09)
Cameron: You haven't spoken for 28 minutes.
John: Well, it's nothing…All right, my birthday's tomorrow, okay? I know that mom totally forgot.
Cameron: Birthday?
John: Hey, you don't know what a birthday is?
Cameron: It's the day you were born.
John: Pretty memorable for a mother, right?
Cameron: But it was 16 years ago.
John: No, a birthday's like a holiday. Like once a year, every year, people just kind of celebrate you, I guess.
And you get presents and you eat cake and it's fun. It's supposed to be. Last year, mom got me a flak jacket.
Cameron: That's a tight present.
John: No, it's not. Whatever, look, I don't know why I care. I've been driving since I was 12, and, technically,
this is my 24th birthday. It's just I time traveled over eight of them.
Cameron: Do I have a birthday?
John: I don't know. Were you born?
Cameron: I was built.
John: Well, then, maybe you have like a built day.

Cameron (Refers to the dead guy in the trunk): He was a threat to us.
John: Did he say a name, a location?
Cameron: He said very little, and then he was quiet.

Favorite JC moments
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From Season 1:

1) The scene after watching Vic and his wife and Cameron remarks that she could
tell it was effective when he stroked her face (I think its this episode)
2) Of course all the scenes from the same episode where John removes then replaces Cam's chip.

From Season 2:
1) Cameron tells John she loves him and he loves her.
2) John reinserts her chip against Sarah's judgment.
3) Cameron lies on the bed with John.
4) John apologizes to Cameron for doubting her.
5) Finale scenes when he checks her for damage.

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Season 1:
-when Cameron ate the chip and said she was different. John called her hot chick
-John's reaction to Cameron wearing only underwears lol
-when Cameron touched the back of John's neck
-when Cam told him what the other terminator did to his wife was effective. Then John
asked her "What are you doing?" Then before she left the room , she winked at him.
-John: She's a machine. "She doesn't have a soul and she never will have.
If you don't trust her, then trust me."
-after John put the chip back in Cam, he touched her face and hair gently.

Season 2:
-the ILY part ..Then in the church, he kept looking at her.
-pretty much every time Cam gets jealous of Riley hehe
-the bed scene esp the last part "We do. We will" then they stared at each other
when Cam offered to make John a sandwich.
-when Cam gave John the kill switch.
-when John was trying to fix Cam
-John complimented Cam's pancake...They smiled at each other..very cute scene.
-get on top of me" scene. HOT.
-John's reaction to Cam's chip missing.

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- Scene in 102 where Cam feels his neck. so hot!
- pretty much all the scenes in "Vic's Chip" where he takes her chip out and puts it back in.
I love how he stokes her face and just stares at her.
- obviously the "I love you!" scene in 201. That was heartbreaking. And then when John told
Derek he needed her.
- the bedroom scene in 208! so much sexual tension! I loved when they showed John's POV.
- the second "I love you" over the phone. LOVED LOVED LOVED that scene.
- the scenes in the car near mid season where Cam talked about being able to feel sensation,
and John really noticing a change.
- All of the scenes regarding Cam's arm, how John asked if she felt different and she said yes.
- The scene where he said "whats going on with you." AMAZING acting from Thomas and I felt
like it was such a turning point.
- The "why would I want to kill you?" scene.
- When he tells Jesse he wouldn't have killed her.
- The scene between John/Sarah ABOUT Cam where his mom said "Just like she told you she
loved you!" Johns face was freaking heartbreaking and then he yelled "You dont know anything!"
- The scenes in the finale, of course, the bed scene, and then the very end where he sees Allison.

Naturellebella:
- Anything involving them and a bedroom is always amazing! From John caressing Cameron's face to
licking his lips while on top of her, they do bedroom scene justice!
- John catching Cameron in her underwear (x2).
- The two ILU scenes, especially the first one b\c it made me want to watch the show again.
- "He's got her chip, he's got her." - the whole jumping through time to save her is so sweet.
- "Why would I want to kill you?" - She literally put her life in his hands b\c she'd rather die than hurt him in anyway.
- Cleaning Cameron's chip and turning on his mom and uncle just to put the chip back into her and save her.



Jameron Animations
Season 1:



Season 2:




Credit

Previous threads:

http://www.fanforum.com/f318/john-ca...-him-62887156/
http://www.fanforum.com/f318/john-ca...-her-62889991/
http://www.fanforum.com/f318/john-ca...e-me-62892733/
http://www.fanforum.com/f318/john-ca...kker-62893946/

Future Titles


Because Jameron + the bedroom = EPIC LOVE!
Because "sometimes it's nice to have help."
Because "you risked your life to fix me."
Because "I need her. She saved my life. SHE SAVES MY LIFE!"
Because "I admire him. His determination, his spirit, his fearlessness."
"Since when do you feel heat?" "I feel heat."
Because Cameron is always by his side.
Because John would never leave her behind.
Because they talk a lot about things.
Because she understands that being John Connor can be lonely.
Because he tells her secrets and she keeps her promises to him.
Because Sarah doesn't like the way John responds to Cameron, but we do!
Because "I gotta find John. I can't let anything happen to him."
Because "I'm sorry I doubted you."
Because "I have sensation. I feel. I wouldn't be worth much if I couldn't feel."
Because he liked seeing Cameron walking around in her underwear.
Because "You feel any different?" *while holding John's hand* "Yes."
Because Cameron wanted to make John a sandwich.
Because even if Jesse's planned worked, John wouldn't have killed Cameron.
Because "I can't kill myself, but you can." "Why would I want to kill you?"
Because he wants to believe Cameron.
Because it wasn't John's idea to ditch Cameron.
Because "I need to show you something. This body. Get on top of me."
Because "I'm sorry John. I'm sorry John. I'm sorry John..."
Because he traveled through time for her
Because "Are you here to kill me John? Are you here to kill me? No. Promise? Promise."
Because she overrode her mission to kill John Connor
Because "her whole purpose in life is to protect him" - Summer Glau
B\C "John was very rude to you (Cameron) often but it was to mask that he was still in love with you" - Thomas Dekker
Because I try to live without you, every time I do I feel dead.
Because she loves him more than anything
"The show takes you in places you're not expecting and you go there". - Josh Friedman
The creator of Terminator:tSCC himself ships Jameron!
"Are you a Jameron?" - "I think I am." - Josh Friedman
B\C Even Josh Friedman ships Jameron!
Because he will always find her, no matter where
B\C I'd fight for you, give my life for you, you know I'd always come for you.
Because "Jameron forever!!!" - Summer Glau
Fanfiction

"I'll Always Find You": Chapter 1 - Terminator: Sarah Connor Chronicles
In the Hands of an Angry Machine, a Terminator: Sarah Connor Chronicles fanfic - FanFiction.Net
the things my fingers spit out
Born to Fight, a Terminator: Sarah Connor Chronicles fanfic - FanFiction.Net
The Watcher, a Terminator: Sarah Connor Chronicles fanfic - FanFiction.Net
Judgement's Dawn, a Terminator: Sarah Connor Chronicles fanfic - FanFiction.Net


Fanvideos

YouTube - breathe me // TSCC
YouTube - TSCC: John & Cameron - Beautiful
YouTube - TSCC: John/Cameron- Why Can't I
YouTube - The Weight Of The World - John&Cameron
YouTube - TSCC: John/Cameron- My Life Would Suck Without You
YouTube - TSCC: John/Cameron- An Honest Mistake
YouTube - Love Lockdown John&Cameron - TSCc
YouTube - Cameron is Just a Little Girl TSCc
YouTube - John&Cameron-You Found Me
YouTube - Cameron&John-Never Again
YouTube - John & Cameron - Cat & mouse
YouTube - Dance with the devil (John/Cameron)
YouTube - John & Cameron , Sarah - Amazing ! ! !
YouTube - Bang [John/Cameron]
YouTube - Dizzy [TSCC; John/Cameron]
YouTube - Brighter than Sunshine // John and Cameron
YouTube - Wasting All My Time [John/Cameron; TSCC]
YouTube - TSCC: Future!John/Cameron/John- Whispers in the Dark
YouTube - TSCC: John/Cameron- Feel Good Drag
YouTube - John&Cameron/Derek&Allison - Bittersweet
YouTube - John & Cameron - "Follow" Breaking Benjamin
Featured Video



Icons

credit: dark_red

TMomsen - Terminator Icons
Credit: Alexa

Jameron scenes

YouTube - Cameron tells John she loves him in Riley's voice
YouTube - TSCC 2x22 - John/Cameron - "I need to show you something...this body"
YouTube - "John/Cameron Love Scene" T:tSCC Season 2 Premiere
YouTube - "John/Cameron Bedroom Scene"
YouTube - Cameron reactivated
YouTube - TSCC Season 2 scene - She saved my life!
YouTube - Jameron getting ready for 1st day of school 1x03

Jameron links
CameronAndJohn.com | Effective | John Connor, Cameron, Terminator, The Sarah Connor Chronicles
SOMEDAY ;; WE'LL GET THERE
John/Cameron LiveJournal Community


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Thank you Kem! Our 5th thread!
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Yay! We're already on 5! The Jameron love here is so strong

& just so everyone knows in case they come later and are not sure where the quote is from:

<schmacky> @josh.. i gotta ask and you probably won't answer but... are you a Jameron? Really? lol
<jfhenry> @schmacky: weirdly, I think I am. I say weirdly only because people ripped me up and down all year for ignoring the whole thing. But I think if you look at he eps I wrote they're very jameron-y. I just think sometimes the show takes you in places you're not expecting and you go there.

<jfhenry> I believe that all of s2 comes out of John's embarassment over realizing in ep1 that he might love cameron

<kevinj> @Josh Dan Ash was Cameron serious about the whole "I love you" thing?
<jfhenry> @kevinj that's one I'll never answer.

Gosh, I especially love the POTM! Good choice Soleya



That whole episode was really good for Jameron. Who would have thought that from an episode where Cameron tries to kill John? It's seriously one of my favorite in the series.
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It is the second best episode of the show definitely! I think I need to watch that again tonight! And now that I know he luurves her, it's going to be even better!
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It will make it even better! I think he showed it though, showed his love during this episode. It's just really great to have it confirmed by the creator of the show. I want to give him a hug! Gosh, you're going to make me go watch it
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You know, that chat makes me feel like they already know that the show is coming back! Why else do it, it's in their best intrest to keep the fans intrested. If it wasn't coming back, then why do it?
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IDK, I never thought of it like that! I always wondered like isn't the day of the Upfronts when they have the actual event when all the stars of the show come and meet? Like seriously, can you imagine having to wake up in the morning and plan your schedule around if your show is being canceled or not? That would be annoying! I like that they're doing the interview though. It's very nice to do for the fans.
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It's still a positive sign that they are reaching out to fans like that, but my brain is desperately over analysing everything at the moment so it might not mean anything...
I don't wanna wait for tomorrow, leak it dammit! Good thing I don't have to go anywhere tomorrow though, because I don't want to leave the internet for a second.

So how about that Jameron being canon! I like that Josh said he was embarassed about realizing he loves her. Espesially because he must have realized Sarah, Derek and Charlie were all thinking about the same thing. And then her rejection made him feel even worse. It must have hurt like hell and he's reaction was to isolate himself from her and make her hurt too, even though it shouldn't even be possible. Obviously she was jealous though, so it worked.
But he's so in love with her that he forgot all about that embarassment eventually and allowed her close again!
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He was def. letting her in, in the last few episode! Ourselves alone on is JC heaven. So much trust was solidified! & love was shown!

YW Chrissy!
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Now we just need him to know that he loves her, admit it first to himself and then to Cameron. And after season 3 Josh can say s3 was all about John's eternal love for Cameron and how he needed to find her and tell her that.
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TFNT Kem!!!
Wow you and Soleya have written alot
I LOVE LOVE LOVE the new picture of the moment
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Old 05-17-2009, 08:21 AM
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Hey Stella we missed you! Just got so hyped about what Josh said about Jameron in that chat! I stil can't believe it!
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Old 05-17-2009, 08:32 AM
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Me too Soleya
Ive just been reallie busy
J-Days comming soon!
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