[Ironhorse25]

I hope my alt self is posting a historical piece on how "Fringe" edged out "The X-Files" to become the longest running American sci-fi series.

[Ironhorse25]

CULTURE SHOCK

When Peter erased himself from existence with the Wave Sink Device, he apparently took Batman with him, for Mantis exists in his place in the altered alternate universe timeline.
(Interesting note: Batman was never replaced in our altered timeline).



You may or may not have realized that this change had a gigantuous ripple effect on pop culture in the AU.

Here is just a sampling of movies, television series, and comic books that were never made in the alternate universe as a result of Batman's erasure 'over there'. Remember that this is just the tip of the iceberg.

Movies:

Batman (1943)
Batman and Robin (1949)
Batman: The Movie (1966)
Batman (1989)
Batman Returns (1992)
Batman Forever (1995)
Batman & Robin (1997)
Superman vs. Batman (2004)
Catwoman (2004)
Batman Begins (2005)
The Dark Knight (2008) - Co-starring Heath Ledger, who may still be alive 'over there'.
Superman vs. Batman 2 (2010)
Mask vs. Joker (2010)
The Dark Knight Rises (2012)
Batman vs. Superman: Dawn of Justice (2016)
The Lego Batman Movie (2017)
Joker (2019)

*Since The Dark Knight Rises was never filmed, the 2012 Aurora, Colorado shootings would have never taken place in the altered alternate universe timeline. Or possibly even in the original alternate universe timeline.

Television:

The two most noteworthy:

The 1960's television series Batman starring Adam West and Burt Ward. Yvonne Craig Played Batgirl (no Batgirl either 'over there').

The FOX television series Gotham (2014 - 2019).
(Unless perhaps Mantis lives there).

Radio:

Batman never had a radio series of his own (perhaps in the alternate universe).

Comics:

None of the comic book series dating back to 1939 or the animated series or any of the toys,

... and we never did find out whatever happened to Superman as a result of Batman's erasure 'over there'.

[Ropetuned]

I’m just curious how viruses would work and if they’d have different affects depending on which universe you resided

[Ironhorse25]

I don't think Coronavirus would exist in the alternate universe.

[Ropetuned]

Why not?

[FoxPhile]

Originally Posted by Ropetuned (View Post) I’m just curious how viruses would work and if they’d have different affects depending on which universe you resided

I don't think they'd be much different, at least not on a basic level. After all, humans are basically the same, and aside from sheep being extinct I think most other animals are similar in all the universes. So viruses probably are as well.

[Ropetuned]

They seemed to have a much bigger jump in future tech over there so they might even have antidote or some sort of cure for all viruses

[Ironhorse25]

Originally Posted by Ropetuned (View Post) They seemed to have a much bigger jump in future tech over there so they might even have antidote or some sort of cure

Originally Posted by Ropetuned (View Post) Why not?

Because the AU is still experiencing bouts with Smallpox, Avian Flu, Typhoid Fever, and according to this article, Bubonic Plague.

Fringe Television - Fan Site for the FOX TV Series Fringe: Fringe Now: Alt Universe Articles - Bubonic Plague

Even if the Coronavirus would exist 'over there', it would pale in comparison to the Bubonic Plague.

And you're right, they would probably already have a vaccine for the Coronavirus if it existed 'over there'.

[Ironhorse25]

"I can dance, if you like. They have absolutely fabulous drugs here, Olivia. I feel great. Oh, and look, look, look. Accelerated healing techniques. It -- it's miraculous." Let's hope that includes a coronavirus vaccine.

[FoxPhile]

The greater likelihood is that the coronavirus would not exist at all over there. It's a mutation in this universe. The likelihood that the exact same mutation would occur is probably slim.

[Ironhorse25]

Originally Posted by FoxPhile (View Post) The greater likelihood is that the coronavirus would not exist at all over there. It's a mutation in this universe. The likelihood that the exact same mutation would occur is probably slim.

I agree. However, if the coronavirus did exist 'over there', I believe a vaccine would have been developed already.

[FoxPhile]

Originally Posted by Ironhorse25 (View Post) I agree. However, if the coronavirus did exist 'over there', I believe a vaccine would have been developed already.

It would depend on when the virus first appeared. Vaccines take time to develop and while the process may be slightly faster 'over there', it's still probably going to take months in any universe. It's entirely possible that creating a vaccine might take longer in the alternate universe. I think if there is a significant difference in how it's handled, it's more likely to be in the treatment and how preventive measures are managed. People who get the virus might be able to go into an isolation tank similar to what they used for Lincoln Lee when he was burned. Death rates might be much lower. Based on the necessity to carry and produce identity cards, personal freedoms are less zealously guarded, so stay-at-home orders and the use of personal protection are probably more stringently enforced - and implemented earlier - which would lessen the impact. HOWEVER - given that the population in the alternate universe has had to deal with hundreds or thousands of people being ambered, they may be more willing to accept certain measures that are done for the greater good. It wouldn't surprise me if certain groups of people who contract the virus - the elderly and disabled - are simply quarantined and allowed to die so that resources can be reserved for the treatment of those more able to contribute once they recover.

[Ironhorse25]

Considering that the AU had not found cures for smallpox or the avian flu yet, it's a possibility. On the other hand, they can treat deadly gunshot wounds, repair third-degree burns through nanotechnology, and revive people frozen in amber.

[Ropetuned]

Hmmmm

[FoxPhile]

It's fascinating to me that they have the differences between the universes - in terms of the state of science - be so random. Some things they excel in and others our universe is better at. It makes sense, of course, but I think a lot of shows would be tempted to have the "others" be way ahead in everything. Or way behind.