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Wild Pikachu 02-19-2012 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Ten My Love (Post 61459528)
Some other theories "out there" include that, yes, the Nina working with DRJ is a shapeshifter and was therefore able to have access to the cortexiphan.

But, some are thinking that it's the real Nina who was honestly shocked to learn that the cortexiphan had been switched, and it's now Shapeshifter Nina who is sitting in the cell with Olivia, as phase 2 unfolds of The Dastardly Plan. That kind of makes sense, since SS Nina would be able to gather untold amounts of info from Olivia AS WELL AS undergo the upcoming torture that's expected next ep, and relatively unharmed too. Brillian plan (if that's what happens...).

As for everyone's mind being erased of all that is Peter, I really don't know about that. That would mean that every scrap of paper he ever wrote on, every FBI file with his name on it, everything he touched in the previous 3 years -- and in both universes -- would have had to have been tampered with to completely eliminate Peter from memory.

I just thought of something: Henry. Henry was the glyph last week, and he would be the only "evidence" of Peter that could not be tampered with. If everyone's minds were only erased, and not the actual timeline, Henry exists and is being raised somewhere by someone.

A fake Nina put in captivity with Olivia as a plant? An interesting possibility...and not entirely out of character for Abrams (he did it in Alias).

Although here's something interesting to ponder, whether the Nina that's with Olivia is real or not: Remember that Olivia's relationship with Nina in this reality is much different, and much closer, than in the original. Now that her memories of all that are fading away in favor of the original ones (where she only knew Nina professionally, and only for the last few years), it'll be interesting to see how she reacts to Nina.

As for what Jones wants with Olivia—remember that in S1 Jones was never hostile or threatening to Olivia in any way...in fact, harming her is pretty much the last thing he wants (unless she doesn't turn out the way he hopes). To him, she's not an enemy, she's a project. Based on that, and the needle, and the snippet of dialogue, I'd say he's going to give her a massive dose of cortexiphan (not that that's necessarily all that safe) in order to bring her abilities out into full bloom once and for all.

Ten My Love 02-19-2012 11:51 PM

I need to know what Jones thinks Olivia's abilities can do for him. Well, there's crossing over without harm, but she can't take him with her!

Wild Pikachu 02-20-2012 12:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Ten My Love (Post 61473835)
I need to know what Jones thinks Olivia's abilities can do for him. Well, there's crossing over without harm, but she can't take him with her!

Well, we never really knew what Jones wanted with Olivia's abilities...I think that will be one of the key answers to the series.

sofiab 02-20-2012 05:03 PM

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LWS53 08-29-2014 04:47 AM

looking forward to the re-watch tomorrow. This is a really good episode.

FoxPhile 08-30-2014 06:01 AM

From what I've seen in the previews, this one looks really good :D

LWS53 08-30-2014 06:52 AM

I hope there are more than the two of us here for the re-watch. Never mind we will just have to post like crazy.

FoxPhile 08-30-2014 08:55 AM

Five minutes to go! :clap:

EDIT: Pushing Play NOW!

Don't ask WHY, Peter - just enjoy it and kiss her again. :lol:

LWS53 08-30-2014 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by FoxPhile (Post 77750472)
Five minutes to go! :clap:

EDIT: Pushing Play NOW!

Don't ask WHY, Peter - just enjoy it and kiss her again. :lol:

:lmao: Olivia has a migraine coming on - how many guys have heard that one before?

FoxPhile 08-30-2014 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by LWS53 (Post 77750603)
:lmao: Olivia has a migraine coming on - how many guys have heard that one before?

I thought the same thing - the old "I have a headache" ploy! :lol:

EDIT: Lincoln - "There really aren't any normal days in this job, are there?"

Took him long enough to figure that out! :rotfl:

LWS53 08-30-2014 09:08 AM

Olivia getting flashbacks of her visit to St. Clares with Peter and Walter going to Venus with Mr. Silbiger.

wendy0706 08-30-2014 09:10 AM

Is it weird that I have flashbacks of Peter all the time? :sigh: :D

FoxPhile 08-30-2014 09:10 AM

That nurse looks like she wants to put both Olivia and Walter in adjoining cells!

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Originally Posted by wendy0706 (Post 77750684)
Is it weird that I have flashbacks of Peter all the time? :sigh: :D

Those aren't flashbacks, those are fantasies. Perfectly normal.

EDIT: I'm fairly certain that thing on Olivia's head was contrived from a beauty shop hairdryer. :lmao:

LWS53 08-30-2014 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by wendy0706 (Post 77750684)
Is it weird that I have flashbacks of Peter all the time? :sigh: :D

Not at all. Olivia remembering her time with Peter. Then going to the beauty parlour with Walter:lol: - like a scene out of Steel Magnolias

wendy0706 08-30-2014 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by LWS53 (Post 77750723)
Not at all. Olivia remembering her time with Peter. Then going to the beauty parlour with Walter:lol: - like a scene out of Steel Magnolias

I want to know how the conversation went between, "I remember everything" and the beauty parlor scene.

"Um, let's get you over to Walter."

EDIT: Also, do you think the thought Walter lost was what ends up being the truth?


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