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Old 04-03-2014, 08:18 AM
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HIMYM Episodes 9.23-9.24 {Last Forever} Series Finale Discussion - Part 3



THE VERY LAST ONE!

WAIT FOR IT… THE SERIES FINALE STORYLINE FOR “HOW I MET YOUR MOTHER!” TED FINALLY FINISHES TELLING HIS KIDS THE STORY OF HOW HE MET THEIR MOTHER, ON THE SPECIAL ONE-HOUR SERIES FINALE OF "HOW I MET YOUR MOTHER," MONDAY, MARCH 31 (8:00-9:01 PM, ET/PT)



"Last Forever Parts One and Two" —Ted finally finishes telling his kids the story of how he met their mother, on the special one-hour series finale of HOW I MET YOUR MOTHER, Monday, March 31 (8:00-9:01 PM, ET/PT) on the CBS Television Network.

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You went to a restaurant (call it "Healthy food") you heard for many years now, you know that it is quite good, but has no menu and the cook decides what you get. It's a total surprise for you.
So if you get your meal and even when it is not your taste but it is healthy: Can you really blame the cook?
Here's my food example:

There is a restaurant called Outback Steakhouse. "Steak" is right in the title, but they also serve quesadillas and burgers. So say Outback Steakhouse is a place that decides what food you get (of course it isn't). You go there and expect a kind of steak since it's in the title. You get the burger. You're upset, because you went there for the steak. Steak is right there in the name - but burger is on the menu. You don't want to blame the server because technically you have no say in what you get and "burger" was a possibility. But at the same time, you had expectations, and it's totally fine if you're disappointed. Those that go and get the burger and are happy about that because they like burgers more than steak, that's also fine. But that doesn't mean that the people that were hoping for the steak (or the quesadillas) aren't allowed to be bummed, especially if they've been wanting to go to Outback Steakhouse for nine years. And even though they understand they were served a burger and knew burger was on the menu, that doesn't mean they can't be upset they didn't get the steak. Maybe they don't like burgers. That doesn't mean they don't understand that burger was a possibility - being given a burger doesn't change the fact that burger isn't their first choice.
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Old 04-03-2014, 10:15 AM
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I did skim through the other thread, picking out exact things to comment on is far too hard at this point but I'll comment on a couple things I saw mentioned.

I had said this in another thread and got attacked for it but in the end, even if the finale wasn't what you wanted, you clearly liked the show the whole time before and regardless of the outcome you can still enjoy those episodes, it doesn't tarnish the whole series, it just means it had a crappy finale, plenty of shows in the past have suffered this same fate.

And hindsight, horrible title for the show since the end all had nothing to do with meeting her really.

Like i originally said my only full disappointment, was that they killed off the mother, did I expect it, yes, was I hoping maybe they wouldn't though, yes. So setting that aside if you look at the series as a whole, the ending makes sense even if its not the endgame everyone wanted.

The only two things I disliked about the way it went, was one, the kids. They were bored and annoyed from the start about the tale of the dead mother, which to begin with they didn't know really wouldn't be about her, so that's kinda messed up. I mean their mom is dead, they should be happy to hear stories about her. And then the very ending, they were too over the top about Ted "having the hots for Robin" Too over the top.

And a filming nitpick, they really could have filmed Ted with the kids years ago and aged him with makeup then since it was just odd to watch since clearly him and the kids were filmed at different times.

And I disliked the progression of Robin over the years, I mean they did stay true to the fact that she always remarked her career came first, but she always remained friends with everyone, and what they showed in the finale didn't show that. We know she obviously remained in contact with Ted and we know with Lily to a point just because of the episode Bad Crazy, but other than that, there's nothing to show she continues to talk to Marshall, and just because he's married to Lily doesn't mean they talk, and even though Robin/Barney always made the claim to remain friends, it seems like the divorce did indeed end that.
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A lot of people, including myself, were predicting Tracy's death ever since the Season 8 episode "The Time Travellers" aired. Yet, when it did happen, many are acting as if the incident caught them offguard. I'm a little confused about that. Which makes me wonder . . . is this disappointment expressed by many are about Tracy's death, or is it mainly about the breakup of Robin and Barney's relationship? And if many were predicting Tracy's death all this time, I cannot help but wonder if these same people considered the possibility that her death would eventually lead to a Ted and Robin reunion.


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I had said this in another thread and got attacked for it but in the end, even if the finale wasn't what you wanted, you clearly liked the show the whole time before and regardless of the outcome you can still enjoy those episodes, it doesn't tarnish the whole series, it just means it had a crappy finale, plenty of shows in the past have suffered this same fate.
This is what I had earlier stated about "SEINFELD". I hated the finale. But I still love the show and will occasionally watch an episode when the mood hits me.
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THREE threads? Really???
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A lot of people, including myself, were predicting Tracy's death ever since the Season 8 episode "The Time Travellers" aired. Yet, when it did happen, many are acting as if the incident caught them offguard. I'm a little confused about that. Which makes me wonder . . . is this disappointment expressed by many are about Tracy's death, or is it mainly about the breakup of Robin and Barney's relationship? And if many were predicting Tracy's death all this time, I cannot help but wonder if these same people considered the possibility that her death would eventually lead to a Ted and Robin reunion.
I actually didn't see a single post in these threads saying that they were shocked the killed the mother (but I'm also the first to admit I haven't read every post), but a few posts that are angry at how it was done, or just angry that it was done. And something that I feel still needs to be clarified is - disappointment does not equal shock. I am disappointed Tracy is dead in 2030. I am the farthest thing from surprised. I'm also not shocked that there was a Ted and Robin reunion. What angers me is how quickly Tracy's death was dismissed. We spent 23 episodes on a wedding that didn't work out (but again, I do not ship Barney and Robin so I'm only irritated at that because it doesn't make sense to me, not that it didn't work out but why you'd spend so much time on something that wouldn't work out), and got "I carried it with me when she got sick" and "Mom's been gone for six years..." as the sole mentions of the fate of the mother. Whether she was the point of the show or not, she was still in the title, and the writers knew how big it was to cast her and show her the way they did at the end of season eight, so even if she wasn't what the show was about, she was a big part of it. So the way they gave such detail about literally everything else - especially about a wedding that didn't work out - just dismissing the fact that the woman people had been wondering about for eight years is actually dead during the story annoys me, and it will probably always leave a bad taste in my mouth. I don't care that B/R got divorced and I'm not mad that Ted and Robin's timing worked out in 2030. In my opinion, the story had too much focus on some things (the wedding) and too little focus on other things (Tracy's death), and so the ending came out rushed. For writers who I have been praising for years as masterful storytellers, I feel they dropped the ball on execution here.

And I've seen many comments that people unhappy with the finale are "denying the obvious" or "didn't watch the show right," and if I was in denial, I wouldn't be angry at how things happened because I wouldn't actually believe they did happen that way. As disappointment does not equate shock, disappointment also does not equate denial. IMO, disappointment is the farthest thing from denial, because to be disappointed in something is to acknowledge that something.
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Old 04-03-2014, 10:46 AM
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I actually didn't see a single post in these threads saying that they were shocked the killed the mother (but I'm also the first to admit I haven't read every post), but are angry at how it was done. And something that I feel still needs to be clarified is - disappointment does not equal shock. I am disappointed Tracy is dead in 2030.

I'm a little confused. Are you saying that you had suspected that she was dead around the time Ted was telling his story, due to "The Time Travellers" and the rumors, yet was still disappointed? Or were you one of those who had never suspected that Tracy would be dead around 2030?



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And a filming nitpick, they really could have filmed Ted with the kids years ago and aged him with makeup then since it was just odd to watch since clearly him and the kids were filmed at different times.
Were you complaining about this, years ago?
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I actually didn't see a single post in these threads saying that they were shocked the killed the mother (but I'm also the first to admit I haven't read every post), but are angry at how it was done. And something that I feel still needs to be clarified is - disappointment does not equal shock. I am disappointed Tracy is dead in 2030. I am the farthest thing from surprised. I'm also not shocked that there was a Ted and Robin reunion. What angers me is how quickly Tracy's death was dismissed.


Just because I didn't like the finale, doesn't mean that I didn't get it (lbr the finale was not complicated lol) or that I only disliked it because my ship didn't end up together. Most complaints from the BR fandom are about the writers building them up, spending an entire season on their wending and ending it so abruptly. And my sadness over the mother's death has nothing to do with BR gettng a divorce. The mother was the best thing about this season imo, she was a great character and she got shafted in the end.
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I'm a little confused. Are you saying that you had suspected that she was dead around the time Ted was telling his story, due to "The Time Travellers" and the rumors, yet was still disappointed? Or were you one of those who had never suspected that Tracy would be dead around 2030?
I didn't suspect it in the sense that I wasn't convinced that was a true theory. I knew it was a valid theory and simply hoped it wasn't true. I never dismissed it as a possibility, I just hoped it was a mislead.
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Final music

I watched the finale again early this morning, and it grew on me even more. The ending really was brilliant, considering it was planned from the beginning.
I just have one complaint (in addition to Robin's terrible wig):

The music of the ending scene fell short of the emotional potential. This could have been a crying moment, even for an emotionally stunted individual such as myself.

Anyone agree with this?

I think they should have saved the season 8 finale song, The Shins - Simple Song, for this moment.
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I actually didn't see a single post in these threads saying that they were shocked the killed the mother
I didn't post it. But, I never suspected until robin and barney split up (I was brain-dead during the time-travellers)

When BR split up, I knew Robin and Ted would get together (and it wouldnt be from a threesome, what-up!). I never read any of the media speculation, so I'm very happy the surprise came at the end. It made it much sweeter.
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I actually loved the last song, because it reminded me of "Modern Love", which was the song of S1 finale. I think they wanted to give a similar touch, but this is just a guess.

I will have to agree with you about Robin's wig. It was weird
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I actually loved the last song, because it reminded me of "Modern Love", which was the song of S1 finale. I think they wanted to give a similar touch, but this is just a guess.
I'm gonna have to go listen to this.

Still, I think I'm going to have to do some video editing and put The Shins in. This way I can finally achieve the tears necessary to move on.
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Yeah, Simple Song still gives me chills. It was very well used for S8 finale.
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Yeah, Simple Song still gives me chills. It was very well used for S8 finale.
Agreed. For me, it was the most moving scene of the entire series. EDIT: but the lyrics of simple song fit better to season 9 final scene than they do for season 8 final scene.

By the way, who wrote modern love? I'm trying to find it on youtube
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