jls2971

jls2971

Sneak peek:


Am I hearing things, or is that voice in the beginning not belong to any of the team members?

jls2971

More sneak peeks

runawaaay

Thanks for the new thread. New episode

Logan

New ep means it is CBS night !!

Logan

Tara ex is played buy Gale Harold , I was a big fan of his from Showtime series “Queer as Folk” He has been active but not shows or movies I would have seen .
Episode is desperately needing a Dr. Reid .. 8 journals from drug Adicts to go through , looking for any similarities , I wound have liked the Reid method in Deciphering them

runawaaay

Didnt reid said something about sabbatical in episodes back?

Another good eppy. Im really liking this season. Some personal stuffs but it doesnt take away from the cases they do.

Prentiss'#1fan

I wish I could care, really. But I just dont. Nothing against Lewis. I like her. A lot. Because of her cool, laid-back demeanor (like Stephen Walker). And also because she doesn't dominate the screen every day all day, unlike 3 other characters past and present I could name. So understand that this isn't me complaining about too much Tara, because there is no such thing.

That being said, this is Lewis' what ? 3rd story in 3 years ? Meanwhile, my fave's been back for the same amount of time, after an absence of 4 years nonetheless, yet there hasn't been one single story for her. Heck ! Alvez' dog Roxy and newbie Simmons' wife and 10 kids whom we're supposed to have just met (not every CM viewer watched BB and even if they did, this is a separate other show) have had more story than Emily, a long time fan favorite and the BAU's new unit chief. That's pretty telling : something's seriously wrong with this show. So while I'm sure I might've enjoyed yesterday's eppy if things had been different, as they are now, I can't and I won't bring myself to watch it. There was a time when I was really eager to know more about both Alvez and Lewis, but now I just couldn't care less anymore. Blame it on the writers who have pushed my patience beyond limits.

Only 6 episodes left before the end of the season, and most likely the end of the show altogether, so I think it's pretty safe to say it's too late to write something meaningful for E. Assuming they even gave a darn. Which they obviously don't. I mean, when a throwback to Minimal Loss, one of the most talked about and emotional episode for Emily and Reid, where she gets beaten to the pulp by cult leader Benjamin Cyrus, doesn't warrant even the slightest flashback and emotional reaction to the memory of said beat up from the person who was the victim of it, but rather turns into yet another opportunity for attention craving-Drama Queen-Garcia to throw her 300 th juvenile tantrum (Doesn't she throw at least one per episode ? ) and have, a few shows later, her 40 th PTSD (I counted at least 3 per past season but feel free to add what I missed. ), you know writing for Emily is the very least of the writers' concern.

I'm not one of those selfish fans who want their faves to be shoved down everyone's throat ALL the time, 23/24 episodes per season, at the expense of other fan favorites. In an ensemble show like CM, there should be some balance, something for each character/actor to sink their teeth in, and a time for each fan to enjoy their faves' own storyline. So amid all the attention the other characters get with their multiple depressions, prison dramas, drug addictions, murdered girlfriends, estranged brothers, murdered best friends, moving in with new girlfriends, being framed for murder, sick mothers, long time dead sisters, ex wives, long lost daughters, new fiancées, dogs, acting out kids, kidnappings, hostage wives, newly discovered grandkids... , I would've been perfectly content with just one well written Emily centric episode in 3 years, to dig in a little bit into her past, her time in London as the unit chief at Interpol and her struggle to maintain a long distance relationship with her last boyfriend while being the new BAU unit chief. But I guess that was too much to ask and hope for. It would've taken waaaaay too much time away from all the others' weekly drama, right ? Smh.

Will I even get to see her date with SSA Mendoza ? Or will she be too busy holding Garcia's hand (again !) during that childish 40+ year old woman's 41st PTSD ? () And unlike Alvez' fullfledged romance with Whatshername, and grandpa Dave's 20th written, aknowledged and onscreen love affair in 11 years (Now I love that man to pieces ok. Him, Emily, Hotch and Elle will forever be my favorite CM characters, in fact the only characters I have ever loved and connected with ; honorable mention to Reid because MGG sure knows how to tuck at my heart when Reid is sad or just conflicted, and Gideon because he was such a complex character and brilliant profiler. But I couldn't help but notice how he gets love story after love story.) , will that "thing" with Mendoza be yet another offscreen... errr... should I even say romance ? like the last offscreen relationship she had with that boyfriend of hers who seems to have just fallen off the face of the earth ? I know Messer said Mendoza would be a recurring character but I dont trust that woman one bit when it comes to E, and with good reasons. And besides like I said, with only 6 eppys left, it's too late to even pretend to try.

Hey, at this point, I'd settle for and actually be thrilled with a simple scene between her and Sergio (I'm a cat person too). Maybe she could talk to him about her time in London and her breakup with Mark. That way I'd finally get some long awaited personal point of view from her. Sighs...

So sorry if I seem to have derailed from the topic of this thread. That was just me explaining why I don't give a flying pig about another Lewis centric episode. Rant over. Thank you.

jls2971

While I do think they could have done more with Prentiss, I disagree about comparing her amount of stories to Prentiss'. The thing for me is, Tara has only had a few episodes that have focused on her despite being on the show since season 11. Yeah, they should have used Prentiss more since she came back and became unit chief, but with Prentiss, we had 6 seasons to get to her know before she left. So we at least have gotten some back story on Prentiss and know stuff about her. We only get little bits of Tara here and there.

I do think some characters (JJ, Simmons, Garcia and kind of Luke) get too much focus. Though it seems like they've kind of toned down on Simmons' screen time this season (I haven't seen last night's episode yet).

Next week's episode should be a Prentiss episode, and based on promo pics, she'll be on a date with Mendoza. It sounds like it might get cut short because of a case, but it wouldn't surprise me if the episode ends with them finishing their date or Prentiss talking to Mendoza on the phone.

As for Sergio, I'm pretty sure Garcia has him now. And it would be nice if they addressed Mark.

Prentiss'#1fan

With all due respect, (and please keep in mind that I do not mean to sound rude or confrontational, I'm just arguing that's all), so what if we had 5 seasons to get to know Prentiss before she left ? Big deal. We've had 13 and almost a half to get to know JJ and Garcia, but that still doesn't stop the writers from making them the focus of the show in most of the episodes season after season, does it ? In fact, they'd rather take Garcia away from her computer and contrivingly put her in the middle of danger many times, even though she isn't a profiler and a field agent, just to give her more focus. And when they can't put her in danger, they simply write another meltdown for her. Yes, anything to keep Drama Queen front and center all the time. And from what I read, didn't JJ recently get another centric storyline to make us know her more ? That makes how many for her in 13 seasons ? Too many to count I bet.

I didn't watch seasons 8-11, but on other forums, I read many posts where members complained a lot about how the two of them along with Morgan became the sole focus during that whole time, to the detriment of even Hotch (Hotch ! Smh at the mere thought of Garcia taking precedence over a character of Hotch's caliber. That's just... insane and ludicrous) and Reid. I can imagine the torture for those poor viewers, although there's not much difference now except for the fact that Morgan is gone. I like to think that neither one of my 4 faves was ever a "writers' pet" to quote a poster, and a screen hogger. Yes Hotch had meaty materials and was often front and center at one time, but I don't think it bothered anyone considering he was the team's leader and an incredibly fine one at that. So it was perfectly normal for him to be set apart from the rest of the team, just like Horatio Cane, Patrick Jane, Jack Garrett and others. And even then, he still frequently allowed others their time to shine.

But I digress, I digress, sorry. What I mean is, if after 13 + seasons there are still ways to get to know JJ and Garcia better, what does having had 5 years to get to know Prentiss ages ago have to do with my complaint ? I would suppose that the same privilege, (To be honest, I'd gladly take 1/4 of that privilege) could be extended to E, espacially in light of her 4 years M.I.A and considering the many possibilities for a compelling story for her regarding that time. So I guess I just don't see why Emily's character must be the one to continue to suffer in terms of individual storyline in order for Lewis to get another one, when there are other way more favored characters who could use some much needed time on the backburner (and yes, that includes Simmons-with-the-10 kids, although in all fairness, he doesn't even come close to the others). What the writers don't realize is that imbalance is a huge turn-off for viewers like me.

Oh so that date will be shown after all ? Thank you for letting me know. I guess I should be thankful for the rare little crumbs I get. Part of me wants to say too little too late, but whatever... Fingers crossed for Garcia to not need Emily's consoling shoulders in that distinct moment, JJ can get that job, preferably offscreen.

Yeah, it's most likely true about Sergio. The little fella got used to his new home and human a long time ago, so it wouldn't have been fair at all to rip him away from them after so many years. But maybe E got another cat ? I hope so. Once a cat person, always a cat person.

jls2971

No, I get what you’re saying. I probably didn’t phrase my post well. I didn’t mean Prentiss shouldn’t get focus because we had her on the show before. Everyone should get the same amount of screen time and personal stories. I just meant that time shouldn’t be taken away from Tara to give to Prentiss. I feel like Tara is one of the characters we know the least about, so in my opinion she deserves every little bit of focus she gets. I personally think Tara is underused and they could do more with her.

But I also think they’ve missed a big opportunity with Prentiss since she came back. I would have loved to see her struggle to adjust to her new role. Sure, she was in charge at Interpol, but coming back to her old job and now being in charge of her friends and former co-workers would probably be a bit challenging. Last time she worked with them they were equals, now she’s their boss. So I feel they dropped the ball on storylines involving Prentiss’ transition.

I do agree with what you mentioned about the show favoring JJ, Morgan and Garcia and having them dominate the screen time. Depending on where you look, a lot of people no longer like JJ that much after she came back in season 7. It seemed to be Morgan and JJ always doing the take downs and Reid, Hotch and Rossi (and Blake when she was there) often disappeared. It is kind of sad that Hotch was pushed more to the background in his last few seasons. It makes me sad when people say they don’t miss Hotch, especially when their reasoning is they felt like Hotch no longer contributed much. It’s sad what they did to a once complex and well written character.

Now it seems JJ, Simmons, Garcia and Alvez get the screen time. Though with Luke, he’s kind of in the same boat as Tara: we don’t know too much about his personal life and backstory. But he’s still often involved in the takedowns.

Like I said, the ideal thing would be everyone got the same amount of screen time and development. But they don’t really do that. Rossi’s centric episodes this season have mostly just been bookends whereas JJ was focused on the entire episode of her centric episode. I think a lot of it could be actor availability. While a lot of the cast have other side projects, CM is really Aj and Daniel’s only project at the moment. But for me, I wish they would tone back on Simmons, JJ, Garcia and Luke and give the others more focus. Reid and Tara have worked well together this season and Prentiss and Rossi worked well off each other in episode 8.

So if we get another season, while I would like everyone to get their own episode/focus, I would like Prentiss, Tara, Reid and Rossi (and occasionally Luke) get a bit more of the spotlight

jls2971

I just got around to watching this episode this morning.

I liked it. It was nice to learn a bit more about Tara.

It was a bit strange that none of the team had scenes with Tara. I'm sure that was because Aisha was directing, but it was kind of weird that she just completely stayed at her ex-husband's office and didn't meet up where the team was. I guess Luke or JJ said they needed to see her, but they never showed it, so I suppose the team could have seen Tara off screen.

I also liked that we didn't see the unsub's face until the end. And we were left guessing who was. The guy who owns the rehab places was almost too obvious, but then they cleared him and circled back to him. At one point when they let the girl addict go I was wondering if the shady owner knew the male nurse was in on it and dismissed her knowing that nurse would kill her.

It was nice that Tara and Daryl were able to part on peaceful terms. I also thought the Mary and Tara scene was nice.

This could have also been a good episode to tie Reid into given his past drug addiction, and we could have had some nice Tara and Reid scenes, but alas. It was still a good episode.

Prentiss'#1fan

Busy week-end, busy Monday. Sorry.

I love Emily but I do like Tara. My lack of interest in the latter's story is directly related to the total absence of story for the former. It's just that even though Prentiss is my fave, ever since she got back, I feel like I've been loving a total stranger. I don't even know what makes her tick anymore. Therefore, it's become increasingly difficult for me to enjoy and even want to watch any other character's centric story. But you're right, time shouldn't be taken away from Tara in favor of Emily, that's one thing we agree on. It should be substracted from the screentime of the obvious show eaters.

Please don't even get me started on all the ways they've dropped the ball on Emily's return. Because if I start, I may not be able to stop. So let me just shake my head once more and leave it to that.

At first I thought people were being over the top when they said that the unholy trio became way too overrated on the show and that it was like the other characters didn't serve any real pupose anymore. But when I kept reading the same statement over and over from different posters, I realized it must've been true. Now that you just comfirmed it, I'm so glad I didn't watch during that period. It was already heartbreaking enough for me to lose my favorite female character for the second time, but if on top of that I also had to endure watching my #1 charismatic, smart, complex, intense alpha male leader be demoted to background noise in favor of 3 subordinates, one of whom is often so immature she makes me wanna reach through my tv screen and smack her senseless, it would've made it ten times worst. Thank goodness I saved myself from that additional pain ! Although just knowing it happened makes my blood boil. That's not only sad, that's infuriating. No wonder so many viewers were so mad.

They definitely need to cut back on the airtime of the new unholy trio of Simmons, JJ and Garcia. That's another thing we agree on. They're like the food you ate so often that just the mere sight of it now makes you (at least myself) nauseous.

I don't mean to be a downer but I very much doubt there will be another season for CM. If they stick to the same pattern they used for The Mentalist' and Beyond Borders' 13 episodes show finale, these 13+2 episodes will probably be the last we see of CM. But if by any luck (and how I want us to be lucky !) the show gets renewed, I hope they right a few wrongs, the biggest one being the clear imbalance and favoritism. And for crying out loud, change those ladies wardrobes ! I swear, if I didn't watch CM from the beginning, I would've never guessed that JJ and Emily used to be two of the most best dressed females in primetime. Their clothes are plain awful and cheap nowadays.