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abisha 01-30-2015 06:31 AM

The Averys || JacksonღAprilღBaby|| #197: Because "whatever you need, I'm here" - Jackson
 





"I love Jackson and April because I didn’t see it coming. So many times, it’s very clear from the beginning that there’s a spark and an attraction. As an audience, you say, ‘That person was brought onto the show to become that for that person.’ But for me and Jesse, for three years on the show, we never thought we were going to end up together. There was no movement toward these people being soul mates; it was just about them being friends and best friends. They rib on each other and they make fun of each other and they’re there for each other — but just friends. And I love that about them. I love that both Jesse and I had no idea it was coming, and that we weren’t playing any of that stuff because sometimes that’s what happens in relationships. You just all of a sudden one day realize that, ‘This is my person and I didn’t know this whole time."
- Sarah Drew

"It didn't make sense on paper: it's not healthy; they shouldn't be together. But when they're in the same room, chemistry is chemistry, desire is desire and nobody understands the other person better than Jackson and April do. It becomes this undeniable truth that Jackson was and April were both trying to heal themselves from it. They were both trying to paint by numbers and do it "right" -- and they've never done it "right." They rushed into this and did it wrong and were told that they shouldn't be sleeping with their friend, shouldn't be having expectations of the relationship. They were trying to follow the proper steps, and life is sloppier than that."
- Jesse Williams






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[INDENT][INDENT][INDENT][INDENT][INDENT]1. She makes him smile
2. He always protects her
3. He's her Jackman
4. "Me and You"
5. His Mama loves her
6. They are best friends who love each other
7. He's the only one that can handle her crazy
8. Somewhere along the way between the laughs, the tears, the smiles, they fell in love
9. He wants a wedding in the field with butterflies b/c that's her dream
10. She jumped the guy who punched him
11. She named her pig after him
12. She stayed a virgin for the man she's going to marry
13. They have mind blowing sex
14. No one's loved her until Jackson Avery
15. They look after each other
16. He sweetly kissed her goodnight even though she asked him to leave the first night
17. There is never enough Jackson Action
18. He won't let Alex call her weird anymore
19. She couldn't stop thinking about their time together
20.. Because if something feels this good, it can't be bad
21. They have a spark!
22. The next guy she sleeps with is suppose to be her husband.... and it was Jackson Avery
23. He has lots of feelings for Her.
24. She's willing to break her promise for him
25. Because it was never the last time
26. He didn't want to leave her
27. Because he wants to marry her
28. It's not just sex
29. They can't keep their eyes off each other
30. Because she listened to Mark Sloan
31. Because he is not going to pretend they didn't happen
32. He envisioned a life with her
33. He can't say No to her
34. Because he can't handle her naked shoulders
35. They can't keep their hands off each other
36. She misses him
37. Because he hurts when she hurts
38. He always has to comfort her
39. All she wants to do is kiss him
40. He still wants her in his life even though they are not together anymore
41. He broke the rules and risked his job for her
42. He can't see her w/ anyone else no matter how hard he tries to hide it
43. She wants romance and one day he'll give it to her
44. In a moment of desperation the only person she needs is Jackson
45. He would risk his career for her without a second thought
46. He would do anything for her
47. He knows what she's thinking
48. They will always be each other's Person
49. He'll break open a door for her
50. He knows her better than anyone else
51. She tells him everything
52. She's herself around him
53. They make each other laugh
54. He understands all "that"
55. It is too much...
56. He says "trust me" and she does
57. He knows when something is bothering her
58. He will follow her anywhere
59. He needs her to know that his current relationship isn't serious
60. Jackson is in April's heart ♥
61. He'll always be her shoulder to cry on
62. Because the universe is keep pulling them together
63. Their feelings for each other refuse to go away
64. Because Jackson likes the dessert
65. He will NEVER feel sorry for being with April
66. She wants HIM
67. She was going to run into an exploding bus for him
68. She only needs one reason
69. Even when she's physically hurting him he gets her
70. Jackson is her heart and her heart won out
71. When her world was falling apart it was Jackson's name she screamed out for
72. Because she makes him happy even if he does not want to admit it
73. Because he loves her
74. Because he interrupted her wedding to tell her
75. Because he listened to Mark
76. Because he burned his life to the ground for her
77. Because he loves everything about her
78. Because even the things he hates, he loves
79. Because he wants her with him
80. Because he wants her too
81. Because he is proud that she is his wife.
82. Because he thinks that she is smart, brilliant and gorgeous.
83. Because she thinks their secret marriage is sexy but his words are even sexier

abisha 01-30-2015 06:32 AM

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✔ JS breaking up
✔ Stephanie finding out about them
✔ MA breaking up
✔ April and Matthew saying goodbye/Matthew leaving (for good!)
✔ Jackson and April's second first kiss
✔ Jackson declaration of commitment
✔ ILY speech from Jackson/Jackson taking Mark's advice
✔ ILY speech from April
- Jackson and April Babysitting Zola and/or Sophia
✔ Jackson and April's first real date (Now a married date!)
✔ Jackson staying the night with April
✔ Sexy elevator scene/elevator scene
✔ An awkward scene between April's dad and Jackson / Jackson meeting April’s parents
✔ Jackson meeting April's sisters
✔ Mama Avery finding out about Jackson/April
✔ AppleJacks baby/ maybe twins (a boy & a girl)
- A kissing in the rain scene
✔ A real proposal from Jackson
- A wedding in the field with butterflies
- A shower scene
✔ Jackson kissing April on the forehead
- Jackson finding out she named her pig after him
- April kissing Jackson on the cheek
- Waking up next to each other after spending the night
- Them both tell the other what made them kiss the other
✔ A cuddling/hugging scene
- Jackson showing April some "good, old-fashioned romance."
- Jackson and April discussing their Mercy West days
- A stairwell scene.
- Jackson smirking at one of April's neurotic ramblings and kissing her because she's so adorable that he can't help himself
- Jackson helping April study for her boards
✔ Jackson being there when she finds out she passes or being the first one she tells
✔ Jackson kisses April first
- Jackson asking April's dad for her hand in marriage
- Mama Avery warning Jackson not to break April's heart bc she's the kind of girl you marry and Jackson saying "I know"
- A scene where Jackson is all nervous and bumbling around April bc of what she does to him
✔ A scene where there is high tension between the two, April tries to storm past him, but he grabs her arm and he whips her back to him
- He kisses her to stop her from rambling on
- To see him give her some flowers
- A Bedroom scene where April gets dolled up in lingerie for him
- A Scene where Jackson's acts protective/possessive of April in Matt's presence
- A scene where Jackson's wipes away tears off April's face
- Jackson and April dancing.
- April buying the t-shirt for Jackson that say's World's Greatest Dad
✔ Jackson telling April she is beautiful
- April wearing one of Jackson's shirts
✔ Jackson interrupting April and Matthew's wedding
✔ April telling Jackson she loves him too
- Jackson and April talking or flashback about how they met
- Jackson and April talking about Charles and Reed
✔ Finally seeing Jackson's apartment
✔ Finally seeing April's apartment
✔ Jackson and April moving in together
- Jackson's dad coming back into the picture and April seeing a new side of Jackson
✔ Jackson calling April his soulmate (the one)
- Alex teasing both Jackson and April
✔ Jackson and April going for a walk and holding hands
✔ Lunch scenes like in season 8 alone or with the group
- Cristina teasing April
- More OR scenes
✔ Jackson and April holding hands
- Kiss at Joe's
- Finally Meeting at Joe's
✔ Jackson gets frustrated with his job/the board and April cheers him up/April is there for him
- A throwback/callback to their first kiss (maybe with their SFK)
- A throwback/callback to her not meeting him at Joe's
✔ Jackson telling April he'd follow her anywhere.
- A throwback/callback to April running towards Jackson and the explosion
- April telling Jackson that she never had sex with Matthew
- A "me and you" callback
✔ Jackson kissing April's neck
- Jackson's reaction to April all dressed up
- Jackson and April celebrating Christmas with their families
- Jackson taking care of April when she is sick/making soup for her and making her feel better
- SFT/sex in one of their own beds
- April going with Jackson to a Harper Avery Foundation event
✔ Jackson and April going to a wedding/event/party as a couple
- April pregnant at the same time as Arizona
✔ Jackson freaking out about April being pregnant
✔ Jackson and April having dinner with Catherine and Webber
✔ Jackson and April's family members visit (April's parents, sisters, Jackson's dad)
✔ Jackson calling April pet names (duckie, wife, babe, sweetheart)
- April calling Jackson pet names ( )
- A bedroom scene, with them cuddling in the bed
✔ April and Jackson make up scene after a fight
✔ April and Jackson thinking of baby names
✔ April and Jackson making some normal new parents stuff like putting together a nursery or them being tired and run down from a crying baby
✔ Guests in Japril's apartment: Mama Avery, Calzona, Alex...
✔ Jackson touching April's belly.

abisha 01-30-2015 06:33 AM

FAVORITE SEASON 8 MOMENT


FAVORITE SEASON 9 MOMENT


FAVORITE SEASON 10A MOMENT

FAVORITE SEASON 10B MOMENT

FAVORITE QUOTE - Season 8

Jackson: I chose Tulane.
April: Good. That's good for you.
Jackson: Yeah. ... I feel sick, by the way. Sick to leave here, to leave you. But, uh, I'm glad-- I'm glad you're so friggin' happy about it.
April: I'm not. I'm not happy with any of it. I'm not happy that everything I thought I was turns out not to be true. Um, I'm not a board certified surgeon. I'm not a virgin. I'm not a good Christian. I don't know what I am, but I know I'm not happy. I loved having sex with you. You made me feel things... You changed me, Jackson. And I loved that. But I hate that I'm not a virgin for the man I'm gonna marry. (voice breaking) I'm not freakin' happy about that. And I'm really not happy that you feel bad about it, 'cause you're my best friend. But you know what? Torres is right. My problems will still be my problems tomorrow and the day after that and the day after that. And in a few weeks, my best friend will be at Tulane, and I may never see him again, so... For one night, I'm just gonna forget all about that. And I'm gonna try. I'm gonna try to be happy. I'm happy tonight. I am gonna be happy, Jackson. 'Cause this is a happy time, and we should be celebrating, okay? So can you please just wipe that freakin' frown off your face and be happy with me?
Jackson: You look really nice.
April: So do you.
8x24 Flight


FAVORITE QUOTE - Season 9

Jackson: April. Tell him who you are. If he doesn't get it, then you don't need him anyway.
April (sighs): But I really like him, and... I think if I tell him, it's all gonna be over.
Jackson: So wait... A little while, let him get to know you better. Once he does, he's gonna want to follow you anywhere. Trust me.
April (smiles): Thank you.
9x15 Hard Bargain


FAVORITE QUOTE - Season 10A

Jackson: I love you. I always have. I love everything about you - even the things I don't like, I love. And I want you with me. I love you and I think that you love me, too. Do you?
10x12 Get Up, Stand Up


FAVORITE QUOTE - Season 10B

April: We did something that wasn’t responsible, but we didn’t because we love each other and we want to spend every day together until we die. I’m sorry..
Jackson: You don’t have to apologize to her.
April: I do. I do. We got married-we had a wedding and all she got was a phone call after it was over. If our kids do that, I will kill them with my bare hands. We made a huge mess. We hurt Matthew and we hurt Stephanie and we hurt you. And I am so sorry. And I’m gonna spend the next I don’t know how many years trying to make it up to you. Apologize to your mom.
Catherine: What the hell were you thinking?
Jackson: I love her, Mom. And I am sorry, but I love her. She’s the one.
10x16 We Gotta Get Out of This Place

abisha 01-30-2015 06:34 AM



He Loves Her Because…
Now that Jackson has told April he loves her, we are passing the time until she responds by thinking of reasons why he loves her. We'll keep adding to this list until the next episode and beyond. Then when April says it back, when April tells Jackson she loves him to, we'll post a list for her. Feel free to post your ideas for either list in the thread and they'll be added to this list or the April list to be added later.

- He loves her because she's the only one who loves him for him--not his last name.
- He loves her because she lets him know everything about her
- He loves her because she knows everything about him
- He loves her because her first time was with him
- He loves her because he’s the only man she's ever been with
- He loves her because they were best friends first
- He loves her because their history goes back to Mercy West
- He loves her because she's the only friend he has left
- He loves her because they have a spark
- He loves her because it was never going to be the last time
- He loves her because as far as them sleeping together, he'll never be sorry about that
- He loves her because she is his best friend
- He loves her because they can do anything together
- He loves her because she's his person
- He loves her because she's worth burning his life to the ground for
- He loves her because they have a connection that will never go away
- He loves her because aside from his mom, she's the most important relationship in his life
- He loves her because she doesn't care that he's pretty
- He loves her because she's the only one who believes in him
- He loves her because she thinks he's miraculous
- He loves her because she's the one who makes him smile
- He loves her because she left the 'perfect' fiancè at the altar and run away with him
- He loves her because she thinks it's not fair for him, looking like this and going around without a ring
- He loves her because she thinks that their secret little marriage bubble is sexy, but his words are even sexier


She Loves Him Because…

She loves him because he would follow her anywhere -
She loves him because he changed her -
She loves him because he would do anything for her -
She loves him because he hurts when she hurts -
She loves him because he can't pretend like it didn't happen -
She loves him because she named her pet pig after him -
She loves him because he only really smiles with her -
She loves him because she knows that he hadn't plan to ruin her wedding, he just coudn't let her go -
She loves him because he doesn't want to date her. He wants the whole damn thing -
She loves him because he wants to marry her -
She loves him because he cooks for her -
She loves him because he's so proud that she is his wife -
She loves him because he thinks she's a brilliant, gorgeous trauma surgeon -
She loves him because he can't stop calling her his wife -



Future Thread Titles
This list is not set in stone and the order is subject to change. Please post any suggestions in the thread and they'll be added to the list.
-On the road to happily ever after
-Through all the hardships their love will shine through
-The honeymoon might be over, but the marriage isn't
-They are each other's person, they are each other's one
-Because they love each other despise their differences
-The road might bumpy right now, but with some love & understanding they will find their way

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Freshgirlly908
Miss Rose
BluePenguin
JaSam4Life


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Note: Feel free to make additions to the OP, Wish List, or Title List by posting on the thread or sending a PM to the thread opener

abisha 01-30-2015 06:35 AM

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*JAPRIL* 01-30-2015 06:41 AM

Tftnt!!!!

Michele22 01-30-2015 06:56 AM

TFTNT abisha!! I would love love if we could add a gif of April telling Jackson the baby is a boy to the OP key moments. If anyone can do that in the same size would be great, I forget for did it last time. And then next week the bed :thud:

abisha 01-30-2015 07:20 AM

I agree about the gif Michele. I don't know how to do it tho, so if anyone can do it and send me, I will add it as soon as I have it. And the bed next week...it's like FINALLY! And can you imagine Japril narrates the episode next week? Someone on tumblr said that possibility and seriously, that would be AWESOME!!! And it will fit the episode so much!

Michele22 01-30-2015 07:30 AM

We'll see maybe some the the regulars who used to post will start coming around again. I still haven't see the full episode but have seen their scenes on youtube. What I have seen is amazing and next week looks even better. It looks centric! Remember this is the episode Justin tweeted about the episode being amazing, Shonda said it was the best table read, Jesse tweeted the apartment scene. I think this one is going to be even better. We have seen more of them in the sneak peek and promo for this ep than we have for most of 11a. I'm excited and will not miss this one that's for sure :lol:

Edsbootycall 01-30-2015 08:00 AM

Hey guys! What an episode, huh? I really, really enjoyed it. My heart was racing the entire time. Man, Sarah Drew is so phenomenal. She just blew me away last night. And Jesse.. about time he gets material to show his depth and talent as an actor. I liked the way it played out last night. It wasn't like we had imagined, but we technically did see Jackson tell her. And she wasn't in denial as much as trying to forget about it. I loved watching her lose it on Stephanie, her interaction with Hunt and Callie. And that last scene just completely gutted me. I was bawling. When she told him they were having a boy, so freaking sad man.

As far as the storyline goes.. I am really torn. I don't know what is going to happen. Just based on Shonda's interviews and the promo/sneak from next week, it really does LOOK like this will become about a pro-life doctor terminating a late term pregnancy. I say this because Jackson and April are well aware of the types in the promo, and are ONLY discussing what they should do if the baby ends up having type II. I know we've said that the OI website says type cannot be determined in the womb, but I've read real-life stories of people that were told while pregnant the type. So maybe there is an advanced test that can tell you, I don't know.

But that being said.. it appears that ONLY if the baby is type 2, Jackson thinks they should terminate. April knows he thinks this and wants him to say it out loud. She, on the other hand, is holding on to hope that it is NOT type II. Which indicates, to me, that if the baby has anything other than type II, termination would not be on the table. So.. just going by that.. it seems that they are going to give the baby type II. Because if the baby has anything other than type 2, the whole religious/science/abortion thing is no longer on the table.

So just based on what we've been given and what we've seen.. it could very well be their baby is doomed with type 2, which is fatal, and no miracle treatment will help. It also means the baby will likely fracture bones for the remainder of the pregnancy. I've read that doctors don't believe the baby feels pain in the womb, but there's no way of know that. So that would be a very good reason for April to seriously consider terminating. To save her baby from more pain and a terrible, painful death shortly after it's born. It would also save her from having to carry that baby, you know what I mean?

Personally I think I am leaning towards this being about April deciding to save her baby from any more pain and suffering and end the pregnancy. That would fit with Shonda's "a VERY pregnant, VERY Christian Sarah Drew pitched this storyline.." and why she would be surprised. Why she would be proud of how Sarah handled the storyline and how April comes out the other side. I could see this storyline, even with a dead baby, turning out beautifully with how Jackson and April cope and come out of the heartache even closer and stronger than ever before.

Another thing tho that gets me is Shonda saying they'd learn what it means to be Avery's. Mama A using all the leverage in the world and finding some sort of treatment for the baby would certainly fit that bill. So maybe we will get lucky and the baby will have type 3, which is bad, but not as terrible as 2. Which is why they are still having discussions with Herman in 11 and why they must make a decision. I dunno!

So really.. it could go either way. I am just so excited to watch it. AND THEY HAVE A BED. I repeat. THEY HAVE A BED!!!

Also regarding the side. Okay, let's just forget for a minute that there's absolutely zero indication at all that this doctor is Jackson other than him having a penis, and discuss what's going on in the side. Has Jackson ever shown interest in teaching residents? Um, no. Would Jackson give any Fs in space about cell research for cardiomyopathy? Um, no. Does Jackson seem like the type that would have sexually charged moments with interns right after he and his wife lose their child? No. Also, the genders on the sides are often interchanged. Shonda has mentioned bringing on more MEN to this show for Stephanie and Maggie. And if by some small, minuscule chance this WAS Jackson, he'd come across as the biggest douchebag of all time. So, no. Not happening. Why start worrying about something that is so unlikely when we have PLENTY of factual stuff to worry about.

Also I think the apartment scene Jesse tweeted is the April/Jackson/Mama K scene.

maultsby627 01-30-2015 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Edsbootycall (Post 79968179)
Hey guys! What an episode, huh? I really, really enjoyed it. My heart was racing the entire time. Man, Sarah Drew is so phenomenal. She just blew me away last night. And Jesse.. about time he gets material to show his depth and talent as an actor. I liked the way it played out last night. It wasn't like we had imagined, but we technically did see Jackson tell her. And she wasn't in denial as much as trying to forget about it. I loved watching her lose it on Stephanie, her interaction with Hunt and Callie. And that last scene just completely gutted me. I was bawling. When she told him they were having a boy, so freaking sad man.

As far as the storyline goes.. I am really torn. I don't know what is going to happen. Just based on Shonda's interviews and the promo/sneak from next week, it really does LOOK like this will become about a pro-life doctor terminating a late term pregnancy. I say this because Jackson and April are well aware of the types in the promo, and are ONLY discussing what they should do if the baby ends up having type II. I know we've said that the OI website says type cannot be determined in the womb, but I've read real-life stories of people that were told while pregnant the type. So maybe there is an advanced test that can tell you, I don't know.

But that being said.. it appears that ONLY if the baby is type 2, Jackson thinks they should terminate. April knows he thinks this and wants him to say it out loud. She, on the other hand, is holding on to hope that it is NOT type II. Which indicates, to me, that if the baby has anything other than type II, termination would not be on the table. So.. just going by that.. it seems that they are going to give the baby type II. Because if the baby has anything other than type 2, the whole religious/science/abortion thing is no longer on the table.

So just based on what we've been given and what we've seen.. it could very well be their baby is doomed with type 2, which is fatal, and no miracle treatment will help. It also means the baby will likely fracture bones for the remainder of the pregnancy. I've read that doctors don't believe the baby feels pain in the womb, but there's no way of know that. So that would be a very good reason for April to seriously consider terminating. To save her baby from more pain and a terrible, painful death shortly after it's born. It would also save her from having to carry that baby, you know what I mean?

Personally I think I am leaning towards this being about April deciding to save her baby from any more pain and suffering and end the pregnancy. That would fit with Shonda's "a VERY pregnant, VERY Christian Sarah Drew pitched this storyline.." and why she would be surprised. Why she would be proud of how Sarah handled the storyline and how April comes out the other side. I could see this storyline, even with a dead baby, turning out beautifully with how Jackson and April cope and come out of the heartache even closer and stronger than ever before.

Another thing tho that gets me is Shonda saying they'd learn what it means to be Avery's. Mama A using all the leverage in the world and finding some sort of treatment for the baby would certainly fit that bill. So maybe we will get lucky and the baby will have type 3, which is bad, but not as terrible as 2. Which is why they are still having discussions with Herman in 11 and why they must make a decision. I dunno!

So really.. it could go either way. I am just so excited to watch it. AND THEY HAVE A BED. I repeat. THEY HAVE A BED!!!

Also regarding the side. Okay, let's just forget for a minute that there's absolutely zero indication at all that this doctor is Jackson other than him having a penis, and discuss what's going on in the side. Has Jackson ever shown interest in teaching residents? Um, no. Would Jackson give any Fs in space about cell research for cardiomyopathy? Um, no. Does Jackson seem like the type that would have sexually charged moments with interns right after he and his wife lose their child? No. Also, the genders on the sides are often interchanged. Shonda has mentioned bringing on more MEN to this show for Stephanie and Maggie. And if by some small, minuscule chance this WAS Jackson, he'd come across as the biggest douchebag of all time. So, no. Not happening. Why start worrying about something that is so unlikely when we have PLENTY of factual stuff to worry about.

Also I think the apartment scene Jesse tweeted is the April/Jackson/Mama K scene.

Thank you. I can't handle worrying about sides with the turmoil already in this story. Jackson was so worried about April the whole ep-so wonderful. Jackson would look like the worst guy in the world and after going thru what they will go thru, none of it sounds like Jackson. Anyway, ew said in their recap SD was the best thing about last night's ep. She made me love April even more after laying into Callie and Steph-which for Steph was ALL deserved IMO. I am still not crazy a out this story-being pro-life, but I am glad SD is getting to really act, she deserves it.

JaprilFan 01-30-2015 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Edsbootycall (Post 79968179)
Hey guys! What an episode, huh? I really, really enjoyed it. My heart was racing the entire time. Man, Sarah Drew is so phenomenal. She just blew me away last night. And Jesse.. about time he gets material to show his depth and talent as an actor. I liked the way it played out last night. It wasn't like we had imagined, but we technically did see Jackson tell her. And she wasn't in denial as much as trying to forget about it. I loved watching her lose it on Stephanie, her interaction with Hunt and Callie. And that last scene just completely gutted me. I was bawling. When she told him they were having a boy, so freaking sad man.

As far as the storyline goes.. I am really torn. I don't know what is going to happen. Just based on Shonda's interviews and the promo/sneak from next week, it really does LOOK like this will become about a pro-life doctor terminating a late term pregnancy. I say this because Jackson and April are well aware of the types in the promo, and are ONLY discussing what they should do if the baby ends up having type II. I know we've said that the OI website says type cannot be determined in the womb, but I've read real-life stories of people that were told while pregnant the type. So maybe there is an advanced test that can tell you, I don't know.

But that being said.. it appears that ONLY if the baby is type 2, Jackson thinks they should terminate. April knows he thinks this and wants him to say it out loud. She, on the other hand, is holding on to hope that it is NOT type II. Which indicates, to me, that if the baby has anything other than type II, termination would not be on the table. So.. just going by that.. it seems that they are going to give the baby type II. Because if the baby has anything other than type 2, the whole religious/science/abortion thing is no longer on the table.

So just based on what we've been given and what we've seen.. it could very well be their baby is doomed with type 2, which is fatal, and no miracle treatment will help. It also means the baby will likely fracture bones for the remainder of the pregnancy. I've read that doctors don't believe the baby feels pain in the womb, but there's no way of know that. So that would be a very good reason for April to seriously consider terminating. To save her baby from more pain and a terrible, painful death shortly after it's born. It would also save her from having to carry that baby, you know what I mean?

THIS is exactly what i think / mean (but i couldnt express it as well as you did lol). also, it's what makes more sense in terms of timeline. April is still very behind with the pregnancy and the pace is going to be slow for the next few episodes as well. PLUS, we know she might be missing or appearing little 12-14. if the pregnancy continues this it will just last forever which will look very weird. Having said that, I also remember Shonda saying in an interview that "they were deciding when to make April give birth" which actually suggests that she will then have the baby?

Michele22 01-30-2015 08:29 AM

Jackie!! :hug: glad you're back! As always, loved reading your post and your insight. I see them going with type 2 as well, and this was my fear because how do you pull out of that one? I don't know if anything even gene therapy or stem cells can even work as far as I've read and between what you and Tracy have posted type 2 is pretty much fatal. Even still, knowing they go the type 2 route i *still* want to believe the baby lives but how and what kind of lifestyle he will have after he is born I have absolutely no idea. I think I have also decided that the baby will be a boy now. I don't think they would go along calling it a "he" and then change the gender that seems petty at this point. There are bigger issues here ie termination, religion vs medicine, deciding whether to carry to term, if it is possible at all, what is best for the baby and then later treatment options which i am sure are discussed after the type is determined although we have discussed that it cannot be, but it seems like they are set on diagnosing it as type 2.

Also, I loved April ripping into Stephanie. Sure, I get that Stephanie never really did anything to April however, Stephanie has been mingling in their lives since they got married and it was not right of her not to disclose her inkling to April first.

Jackson and April...I loved the 2 scenes that I saw. Jackson obviously wants the very best for her and wants to do whatever she wants or needs except she doesn't want him to do anything. The ending was so sweet, however do still think she will continue to not want to talk and that is going to frustrate Jackson. Their original problem was not talking and I am glad he recognizes this and wants to now. I just wish April would open up to him and allow him to be there, to be the support she needs so that they can get through this together.

abisha 01-30-2015 08:34 AM

Sarah said she chose that SL because it's somtehing that happened to friends of her parents. She didn't say if the baby end at the end or nothing like that. I really think maybe they make April embrace the idea of abortion as a possibility and then Dr. Hermann says it's not type II. I really think the stem cell is gonna play some sort of role in this SL. Mama A didn't mention these two thing in 10x16 for nothing. And for me, the certificate can be the result for the text without any problem.

Edsbootycall 01-30-2015 08:38 AM

​Here is something I am curious about regarding the late-term abortion.

My friend had a baby with Trisomy 13 or 18, whichever one is fatal. They INDUCED labor and she delivered the baby at 23 weeks. She held her. She named her. The baby died shortly after and was buried. ​Could this be the way it goes with Jackson and April's baby? Not necessarily an abortion in the simplest definition but still "terminating" the pregnancy. Their baby would be born. There would be a need for a BIRTH CERTIFICATE. A pastor blessing that baby. And then the baby passing. Would also fit with why Mama Avery is there, as support for Jackson and April. Then April could take time off work (which would explain Sarah's absence) and we'd hear about how she's coping through Jackson. Which, going by the side in 15, is not very well up until that point. It seems like their "baby arc" is 6-11. Then Jackson will be focused on his transgendered patient and April is taking time off from work. Then it picks back up in 15 with Jackson and April coming to terms with everything and April getting better, so to speak, since she's working in 15. With Jackson's patient's husband telling him about his wife losing her sister and how she hasn't been the same, and nothing he does seems to help. And then Jackson convincing the patient to wait before having surgery. 15 could be a turning point for them in the right direction to healing from such a terrible loss.

Just another way it could possibly play out.

Hi Michele!

I really do feel they are going with type II and the baby will not make it. Which is not the end of the world, and could really turn out to be a wonderful storyline if played right. I was really sold that they were going to give them a special needs child, but if the baby has type II then game over. Also, I am now finally convinced he really is a boy. I think Jackson and April might try to get pregnant by the end of the season, and end up having a baby girl next season.


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