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Old 05-02-2008, 10:44 AM
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LMAOO. OMG, me too. Especially when he picked up the toy. I was like, fjdfjdsafjs! jfjdasj!

I need a Jate icon!
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Old 05-02-2008, 10:47 AM
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Aaron's so cool. He has a Millennium Falcon.

So do I.
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Old 05-02-2008, 10:48 AM
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I need to know how Aaron was left with Kate (obviously Jack still doesn't know he's related) and why she's so delusional as to think he's actually her son. LOL.
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Old 05-02-2008, 10:52 AM
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I don't think she's delusional, because she's had him for a few years so it feels like he IS her son. Almost like she adopted him when he was a baby.

Foxy better be telling the truth, lol. The finale better have some Jack!Redemption!
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Old 05-02-2008, 10:57 AM
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And I get that, but he still had a mother who loved him. Obviously I can't claim to know what Kate would have done as he got older, but hopefully she would have told him that she wasn't his real mother down the line.

I don't really think Jack needs to be "redeemed" in ways other people might believe. He's drinking and popping pills because the island has psychologically screwed him up. I mean, imagine seeing your dead father speaking to you on a daily basis. I can't blame him. LOL.
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Old 05-02-2008, 11:00 AM
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Oh, I seriously don't get all the Jack bashing. Anyone would start popping pills and drinking if they went through HALF of what Jack is going through. But I do want Hobo!Jack! to find a way back to the island. That's the redemption I want.
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Dude, that's what I'm saying. The Island O'Crazy would **** ANYONE up for life, lol.
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LMAOOO. Exactly! I mean, Sayid's working for BEN. Everything's ****ed up.
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You know what they need?

They need Mulder.

Mulder would have this ******* locked up tight in a week, tops.
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Old 05-02-2008, 11:09 AM
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Exactly.

I've read a few "hater" comments about how Jack can't just go back to the island and be redeemed and stop doing drugs and it's like...um, yes he can. He started doing that **** to FORGET the island and FORGET the effects of it aka seeing his dad, feeling guilty about leaving. Once he goes back, that's the start of him "letting go."

And, honestly, I don't care about Jate vs. Skate as much as I care about Jack, but if Kate goes back to the island and gets back with Sawyer, it will make her look worse than she ever has. There would be no realism in Jack and Kate even having a friendship at that point.
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Old 05-02-2008, 11:15 AM
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LMAO. Liz. Where's Mulder when you need him?

If the island **** goes away, then the drugs and alcohol go away.

OMG, if Kate gets back with Sawyer...they better kill her, lol, because it will make her look TERRIBLE. And I'm not just saying that because I ship Jate. Even if it was the other way around I'd still hate her. But I love Kate now. Hee.
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I think Jack feels very responsible for every person on that island. I think he was made to feel like that to a certain extent- he did not jump at the chance of being leader in S1; it was a position he was placed in. And not everyone who wanted to get off the island seems to be off of it.
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Old 05-02-2008, 11:21 AM
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It will make her looking like a fake, lying bitch. So, yeah. LOL.

Jack feels VERY GUILTY, especially in the S3 finale. In the FF's now, he's still trying to justify leaving. It's interesting when he says that he "came back." Maybe he wasn't going to leave at first?
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I think Jack feels very responsible for every person on that island. I think he was made to feel like that to a certain extent- he did not jump at the chance of being leader in S1; it was a position he was placed in. And not everyone who wanted to get off the island seems to be off of it.
Like I said on my Lost project Jack was the leader on that island he was like the hero who was suppose to save everyone at some point.
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Well yeah, he is. But if you factor in him getting off- but not being able to bring them all with him- I think it was inevitable for him to start drowning in the guilt. He can only believe the lie for so long.
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