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Pillow Pals (J.T./Liberty) #13: Because he gave her looks of love
Welcome to the 13th JT Yorke/Liberty Van Zandt appreciation thread!
Where the shipper name comes from: In the episode, "Don't Believe the Hype," JT and Liberty were partners in a sewing class where they sewed pillows. In "Gangsta Gangsta," JT had his wet dream about Liberty, hence more pillows. Incredible banner by Otep Fantasic Celebrating 10 threads of Jiberty animation by Pink Pastry Pillow Pals Goodness: Thanks to Jiberty Maniac Avatars of the moment by Twyst, Jiberty Maniac, intensedegrassi, degrassiac and thesmartone47 Response to when did JT finally wake up by Lakaii thanks to Nikki: For me, the big wake-up call was in "Our House." With the wet dream, I think JT was more surprised than anything that he dreamed about Liberty. All that season he'd been trying to hang out with the cool kids and get away from the "geeks and nerds" and for him to dream about Liberty, a girl he claimed to have no interest in, was a shock, and embarassing for him to the cool kids. At this point, he would have to admit that he at least saw Liberty in the same way he saw Paige and Manny for instance, even though Liberty's not a glamour girl, flashy, etc, but at that point, I don't think he "woke" up. I picked the flirtation scene in "Our House" because by that episode the crush on JT was pretty much gone or rather suppressed by Liberty. It was clear to me that JT missed Liberty's crush. Thinking back to AWH, after JT was mean to Liberty and she stared at him in the classroom, JT looked back at her and smiled to himself, like "She still likes me." He took comfort in that fact. He LIKED the fact that she had this crush on him. It meant something to him. And by "Our House," it was gone/suppressed. The whole "Are you propositioning me, Liberty?" and "He's getting some practice for the mugshot," sealed it for me that JT finally woke up. It was like JT wanted Liberty to ask him to the dance, to want to be with him. I definitely think there was some jealousy from JT's part that Liberty appeared so happy with Towerz and wasn't crushing on him. It was like JT realized that someone appreciated this girl, and he hadn't, and any chance he had with her at that time was gone. It was too late. But I don't think JT REALIZED he had romantic feelings for Liberty until VC Part I, or at least it wasn't expressed on-screen until then (I might even count KOP) JT was still caught up in that "hot girl" faze. It took Liberty's crush being gone/suppressed for him to finally realize how great Liberty was, her talent, her intelligence and her unconventional beauty were all things that attracted him to her. We can assume that JT spent more time around Liberty because he was hanging out with Danny, so he was able to see Liberty as more than just this weird, annoying girl with this crush on him, and see these aforementioned qualities in her. There was some crushing going on in VC from JT's part with his compliments and touchy feeliness toward Liberty. It was just a question of who would make the first move. 1. 80sbabygirl (Lakaii) 2. EmmyMcBitchy 3. Evil Poptart 4. Mayberry (Nikki) 5. Sydney Summers 6. Twyst 7. Jiberty Maniac (Tasha) 8. punkmusicc 9. PeIcEs oF Me 10. QueenBitch 11. CandyKiss304 12.Mariael311 (Mar) 13. CanonsAreWorthless 14. Krissy_Babi 15. JacquiJack 16. Otep 17. icygrrl02 (Lydia) 18. PrettyGirl04 19. konstantine 20. Effy11 21. Jibertyshipper4life 22. .*.~.Laura.~.*. 23. PinkPastry (Lindsay) 24. idontwannabe73 25. PNUT013 (Jamie) 26. cupiidxx 27. Ellie_J 28. JazminM5 29. LilDegrassiPrince (Sedrick) 30. amys21 31. viviki 32. Angelic pixie 33. simplysweet423 34. vaguelypoetic (Devin) 35. sporadic 36. mudblud 37. ThornyRose565 38. fhband05 39. Juban 40. jlu2005 41. AzyLin 42. simplyxjiberty 43. your_konstantine 44. Kowaii 45. SoCoBeLLa 46. beebee 47. xJibertyx 48. Lana Llama 49. SandElforever (Amanda) 50. Riberty42 (Raye) 51. StorytellerD 52. Forever Eden 53. rayandneelaslovechild 54. ?}{îÖ? 55. Yellow n Blue402 56. Claire&CharlieFan4eva 57. knoxville 58. hazycraze 59. froggiepopple 60. semma_4_ever 61. prettyg38 62. CatFoley16 63. Cranny's **** 64. MrsBrigthside42 Past thread titles : 1. B/c opposites attract 2. Because Liberty is JT's dream girl 3. Because they are far from B-O-R-I-N-G 4. Because verbal foreplay is hot 5. Because they were four years in the Making 6. Because JT finally woke up! 7. Because we want to make Sean a shipper! 8. Because they can frolic through colons together! 9. Because they won couple survivor!!! 10. Because she gave him butterflies 11. Because time stops when they kiss 12. Because his quest for a woman leads to her 1. Because opposites attract 2. Because even Toby thinks JT should go for Liberty already 3. Because Liberty is JT's dream girl 4. Because she can keep JT's secret 5. Because he thinks she's cool 6. Because they have great and fun chemistry together 7. Because she thinks he's interesting 8. Because he lusts for her 9. Because the show has hinted at a hook-up forever 10. Because Liberty tried to help J.T. up when he fell (unlike Manny) 11. Because she knows he's the next Martha Stewart 12. Because she's J.T.'s little rebel 13. Because they make geography interesting 14. Because Riberty sounds so cute 15. Because his quest for a woman leads to her 16. Because he took the D for her 17. Because she lets her hair down around him 18. Because their teasing is so pleasing 19. Because their banter is beautiful 20. Because Season 4 is our reward 21. Because J.T. heats up Liberty's hot tub 22. Because they are far from B-O-R-I-N-G 22. Because the E wasn't an excuse 23. Because they're weirdly original 24. Because they remind us most of Simon/Alexa 25. Because they've come a long way, baby 26. Because they have a song- the Raddish song 27. Because Monday detention was never so sweet 28. Because Liberty gave J.T. butterflies 29. Because Danny makes (an annoying) three 30. Because we only want Spaige blowups (interesting, but resolved in one episode) 31. Because their fights are healthy (Well, compared to Crashley and Cranny fights). 32. Because J.T. finally woke up! 33. Because Liberty didn't have to change her look to get JT's interest (unlike some people *cough cough* Manny *cough cough*) 34. Because their kisses are so much better than the awkward JT/Manny kisses 35. Because they have a connection 36. Because JT thinks she's talented and brilliant 37. Because the chemistry between Sarah and Ryan is undeniable 38. Because Liberty accepts him for him 39. Because she's his Libby Tibby 40. Because they work well together 41. Because she told her hot-headed paramour to cool down 42. Because she's his talented inamorata 43. Because Towerz who? 44. Because we want to make Sean a PP shipper. (That way the double date can happen. ) 45. Because Liberty likes big butts 46. Because JT's lips taste like sweet jelly 47. Because banning her from seeing him until she's 20 won't keep her from him 48. Because they won't let Mr. Van Zandt be a hot tub party pooper 49. Because we'll give Danny a wedgie if he messes with the PPs again 50. Because who cares about maturity? We like our farting boyfriends!*cough cough* Manny *cough cough* 51. Because they're one giant blob of hotness 52. Because JT would rather roll around in the water with Liberty than on the cement with Danny 53. Because we finally got our slobberfest! 54. Because the smartest girl in school thinks he deserves her 55. Because he will fight for her 56. Because he can be himself around her 57. Because Liberty never got J.T. into a scooter accident. (*cough cough* Manny *cough cough*) 58. Because they bring out different sides of each other 59. Because they were four years in the making 60. Because they're destined 61. Because they are ridiculously cute 62. Because they are meant to be 63. Because they share a love of cheese 64. Because they won couple survivor 65. Because their reward for winning couple survivor should be a main plot episode. 66. Because they wanted to show there was light after Rick's death. 67. Because we want some drama for these loveable drama geeks. 68. Because J.T. gave her stares of love. 69. Because everyone should've realized it was time. 70. Because they are rebels...who sing. 71. Because they have something in common with Jay and Alex... they're dearing 72. Because he winked at her. 73. Because he almost kissed her in "Shout." 74. Because they belong together---they're like soulmates 75. Because maturity is sexy 76. Because they both love each other for who they are 77. Because they were each other's first kiss. (based on deleted scene) 78. Because time stands still when they kiss. 79. Because Liberty landed her man. 80. Because it was all about the arm hitting the desk. 81. Because she crushed on him for 4 years 82. Because they can make more out of a brief background shot than some characters can on center stage with several pages of dialogue. 83. Because she wished she could see JT's underwear. lol. 84. Because they deserve an on-screen date. Seam strippers Ballroom dancing The Degrassi Grapevine Martha Stewart Vandalizing lockers Red markers The 3 stooges Water Skateboards Hawaii Pillows Geography exams Hallway hugs Computer tributes The song "Every Part of Me" (played in JT's wet dream) Sexy red trunks Kitchen timers Hot tubs Radishes Detention Dracula Romantic banter Hot tub kisses Sweet jelly Cheese Pillow Pals Soundtrack #3: Pillow Pals episodes: Secrets and Lies Don't Believe the Hype Shout Tears are Not Enough Gangsta, Gangsta Accidents Will Happen, Part Two Our House Voices Carry, Part One Voices Carry, Part Two Secret, Part One Bark at the Moon Eye of the Tiger West End Girls Made by: froggiepopple Why I Like Jiberty by StorytellerD: At least for me, there are a lot of reasons I like Jiberty. First, I think JT and Liberty are simply great characters, even outside of this pairing. So naturally when you have two great characters, it's even better when they get the chance to interact. Then, there's the fact that Ryan and Sarah have a really good onscreen chemistry with one another. Whether the characters are arguing or flirting, the magic is there. Whether they're the feature players in a storyline or part of the background, they're always interesting to watch. Another reason I like them is that we've gotten to see the gradual progression of their relationship over the course of the series. It's gone from a one-sided pursuit to a friendship to a full-fledged romance. It wasn't rushed or pushed in the viewer's face, but rather a natural, sometimes subtle evolution. Amidst all the flashy antics of Sean/Emma, Ashley/Craig/Manny and Spinner/Paige, JT & Liberty have been moving along slowly, exchaging banter, getting on one another's nerves, living in denial, helping each other, and getting mixed up in bad initial relationships (Liberty with Towerz, JT with Manny). And throughout it all, the spark between them was there. It's also probably the most realistic coupling on the show -- Girl wants what she can't have but doesn't give up hope; Boy denies any feeling for the girl, fearing the loss of social status. Both have great differences in personality yet are kindred spirits who manage to become friends. And eventual growth and maturity on both sides helps them sort through differences and fears and they ultimately figure out they should be together. They're Degrassi's most normal couple. (They could probably share that status with Jimmy & Hazel, but that pairing only gets Toby-sized amounts of screen time, so Jazel has much less presence on the show as a couple.) With the craziness of the other pairings, it's nice to have a stable, likable couple who can be serious but also bring the fun, happier side of high school romance. Also, unlike all the here-today/broken-up-tomorrow couples on the show, Jiberty is the one I could see lasting beyond high school. And even if they - perish the thought - didn't stay together as a couple, their connection to one another is such that they would no doubt go against the norm and remain close friends. Jiberty -- The Degrassi couple who work best together. How could I NOT like them? Links: JT and Liberty Heaven Pillow Pals fanfiction JT & Liberty Fan Refuge Pillow Pals Yahoo! group Jiberty Fans Pillow Pals livejournal community Wonderful colorbar made by: Lydia __________________
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Not sure why two threads popped up.....but yeah, lucky #13.
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new thread, woot woot! i was never formally added to the list, so can you add me?
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Added Cranny's ****! Welcome.
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Yea, lucky 13 is exactly what I was thinking! Yea! Hopefully someone will close that other thread...
What'd you think of 7th Heaven btw, Nikki? Next week looks interesting as well. __________________
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Yay new thread... &th heaven hasn't been on in a while... its back next week?
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Lakaii, honestly I didn't like it that much. I thought there was too much phone tag and Annie running around bored me. Still I look forward to next week. I liked that Simon called Eric at the end, and I loved Ruthie in the kitchen with the three interested guys (Martin knows he likes her ). But at least they said they loved Mary just as much; she seemed to be forgotten for a while.
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Oops I must have posted in the other thread.
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Can I be added? I love Jiberty.
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Welcome Molly
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I agree about the ep. It just drove me crazy like I said before. At least Kevin/Lucy look they're finally moving out (within the next eps).
Welcome, MrsBrigthside42! Hopefully someone will clear up the two threads problem soon. Question: If JT got Liberty a birthday gift, what would he get her? __________________
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Yea. Ok... Here's a new supporters banner to replace to old ugly one I made..
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#13. Cool.
Just want to respond something from the other thread. I've read 1-4 of the Harry Potter series. Loved Book 4 cuz it had a mature feel to it (despite the book being almost 800 pages, I finished it in like 3 hours! Non-stop.) I never really thought of Hermoine and Liberty being comparable until someone mentioned it. And now that I think more of it, it's true! But my favorite character is Ron. Can't wait for Book 5 this June or is it July? Oh well, one of those "J" months. __________________
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July 15...I'm pretty sure, viviki!! Book 4 is also my favorite, and I love Ron.
Hmm, birthday gift. For J.T. Maybe a handheld camera or is that too pricey? Will maybe a book on directing. For Liberty, maybe he'd get her jewelry, but not pricey jewelry, something unique and pretty like she is like a charm bracelet with like a pillow, hula girl, pen. etc. Welcome Molly!! You're added. Thanks Callie! __________________
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I've only read book 1 and I saw the Hermione/Liberty similarities immediately. I like all 3 of them. Book 5 isn't out yet? Why do I have it then...?
I think JT would get Liberty a piece of jewelry also. I like the charm braceleet idea. Or he would get tickets to some theatre event and surprise her. Liberty's family seems to have a little money, so I wouldn't think a camera would be too much money. I could see her getting him DVDs of his favorite comedien. __________________
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