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Lozza~TheAussieChick~ 11-02-2007 09:52 PM

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I loved when he said that she knew him well. Very sweet. :)

Yes :love: that part

hannahbanana 11-03-2007 04:22 AM

I'm a little bit disappointed that we didn't get a whole lot of Jelliot scenes in this episode but I forgive the writers because they were breaking up JD/Kim. :)

That one little scene though, speaks volumes. Elliot was there for him when he needed someone the most. I mean, Turk intended to be there but he wasn't. It was Elliot who actually came through for him, even though she was supposed to be at home, sleeping. I also loved that she knew what he thought about the celebratory jump-hug. She does know him so well. Foreshadowing? Oh, yes! :D

JDZachfan 11-03-2007 05:11 AM

I love that scene, thanks for posting caps. It was a definate reminder, amongst everything else that was going on, of how close JD and Elliot are.

She knows him and was there for him, this gives me hope of what is to come.

I'm Not Dead 11-03-2007 06:22 AM

I keep thinking about what Bill said. People want JD and Elliot together, and people don't want JD and Elliot together. So they're going to find a way to please both sides. :confused: I can't make sense out of that.

McHobbit 11-03-2007 10:49 AM

I know many people who don't want JD and Elliot together. But since Episode 1 it just seemes like they belong to each other

Ellipsis 11-03-2007 12:44 PM

The reasons I've seen for JD/Elliot are all blamed on JD, so I don't tend to like them, Canon wise, yeah, they really are meant to be together.

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I can't make sense out of that.
Me too, and it makes me a little nervous.

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She does know him so well. Foreshadowing? Oh, yes!
Definitely! Right up there with Mole Butt. :D

TheJanitor86 11-03-2007 01:08 PM

I don't see how it is possible to make both sides happy. If some people want them together, and some don't, its impossible for both sides to ever be happy. I don't see why anyone wouldn't want them together, they're so right for eachother its crazy.

vespertine 11-03-2007 03:38 PM

The tiny scene in this episode was enough for me to be satisfied that something could very well happen. Think about this...the ending of Season 6 was JD and Elliot about to make out. If they had done it they would have either gotten together there and then or resented it realised that they didnt want to be with each other. I'm thankful they didnt have to face those questions so early in the season. How ironic though that the first episode was Elliot breaking up with the guy she was sposed to marry and then the second episode is JD breaking up (we'll he didnt really break it off Kim did but he certainly caused it) with the woman who is giving birth to his child.

The main focus of the first to episodes has been freeing up JD and Elliot. That to me seems like a good sign.

MotherDear 11-03-2007 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by TheJanitor86 (Post 18989904)
I don't see how it is possible to make both sides happy. If some people want them together, and some don't, its impossible for both sides to ever be happy. I don't see why anyone wouldn't want them together, they're so right for eachother its crazy.

I don't think they're so right for each other its crazy. Every time they were together they would mess it up on their own. there was a time they were together because JD always wants what he can't have. Their first time together was a complete mess. and ever since then the only thing we saw was JD being jealous of Keith and then only when Keith decides to propose does he remember that he's the one for Elliot.. is that what it means that they're so right? I don't think so.

I don't really want or not want them to hook up for good! it does not move me! it does not get me going at all na na na naaa

but I really don't understand how the hell is Bill going to work that out.. I think he should not consider anyone's wish but his own.

I'm Not Dead 11-03-2007 06:19 PM

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I think he should not consider anyone's wish but his own.
I agree with you there. The show is his baby and no show runner has ever been able to satisfy every fan with the ending to their series, so the least stressful thing is for Bill to end the series the way he thinks is best. But as fans, we have the right to curse his name for all eternity if we do not like the ending. :evil_lol:

MotherDear 11-03-2007 08:27 PM

ahahah you got that right! :D voodoo his white arse!! :P

SakuraBlossom 11-03-2007 10:55 PM

Joinage. Right now. I love Jelliot, ever since I saqw scrubs I fell in love with it. Sadly because I live in Australia, I have to watch scrubs season 7 online. Actually, they haven't aired anything passed season 4 on TV (but season 5 is on DVD).

That quote from Bill about two sides being happy really irks me in the sense that it heavily implies they won't get together. But then I thought that how could our side be happy if that happens? We can't but the people that dislike it would hate it if they got together therefore I have no idea what he has up his sleeve. The only thing I could think of is of they ended up with no-one and remained good friends. That way Jelliot shippers would have the satisfaction that no opposing ships happened and they are still friends while non Jelliot shippers would be happy that they didn't get together romantically. However, I would still be a little dissapointed with that ending because we want them to be together as well as great friends. So, what ever he does I hope will stay true to what he says, but then again the fact that he doesn't want a Jelliot ending makes me nervous (although Zach is and he does have some creative influence on the show).

Also, I found the Mole-butt but interesting. When Turk said none of the girls were right for him except for Elliot. This implies that he thought that Jelliot wasn't a bad match which, to me, could be considered forshadowing.

Something else I would like to point out, if JD and Elliot were not intended to be together then why break them up with the only things standing in their way. JD and Kim are no longer together so the baby is no longer an obligation for him to stay. And Elliot and Keith are no longer getting married (are they actually broken up for good?) so both are single. Why do this? They are intended to have happy endings so why split Elliot and Keith up and have Kim let JD go from his obligation to stay when they could have him just realise he loves her so he can have a happy ending? Possibly because that's not where their happy endings are.

That took effort to write xD Anyway....so can I join?

hannahbanana 11-03-2007 11:51 PM

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The main focus of the first to episodes has been freeing up JD and Elliot. That to me seems like a good sign.
I think so too. :nod:

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I don't think they're so right for each other its crazy. Every time they were together they would mess it up on their own. there was a time they were together because JD always wants what he can't have. Their first time together was a complete mess. and ever since then the only thing we saw was JD being jealous of Keith and then only when Keith decides to propose does he remember that he's the one for Elliot.. is that what it means that they're so right? I don't think so.
Those are valid arguments and we've discussed this matter before. When they started out, they had to work together every single day. It's always hard to have to work with someone you're trying to have a relationship with. Since you see each other every single day, it just makes you see each others flaws and shortcomings all the time. Believe me, I've been there. It's not easy. Now, add the fact that they were just starting their career. The pressure of staying focused on their job while they try to make a relationship work must have been overwhelming. :shrug:

I do think the biggest reason why it didn't work out for them the few times they hooked up was because they were both still too immature. Over the seasons, I've seen them grow and become independent, mature doctors. Now this being Scrubs, they can't be mature all the time but you get what I mean. I honestly believe they can make it work this time if Elliot can realize that she's not in-love with Keith but the idea of getting married and JD can be honest about his true feelings for the woman who's having his baby.

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But as fans, we have the right to curse his name for all eternity if we do not like the ending.
That's an idea, Stephen. :lol:

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Also, I found the Mole-butt but interesting. When Turk said none of the girls were right for him except for Elliot. This implies that he thought that Jelliot wasn't a bad match which, to me, could be considered forshadowing
Oh, yeah. Definitely. If the guy's "soulmate" believes mole-butt is good for him, maybe she really is. :)

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Something else I would like to point out, if JD and Elliot were no intended to be together than why break them up with the only things standing in their way. JD and Kim are no longer together so the baby is no longer an obligation for him to stay. And Elliot and Keith are no longer getting married (are they actually broken up for good?) so both are single. Why do this? They are intended to have happy endings so why split Elliot and Keith up and have Kim let JD go from his obligation to stay when they could have him just realise he loves her so he can have a happy ending? Possibly because that's not where their happy endings are.
ITA! :nod:

Oh, and welcome to the thread! :wave:

Ellipsis 11-04-2007 12:05 AM

:wave: Welcome!
That was quite the opening post, but very impressive.
I'll add you to the list. :)

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That quote from Bill about two sides being happy really irks me in the sense that it heavily implies they won't get together. But then I thought that how could our side be happy if that happens? We can't but the people that dislike it would hate it if they got together therefore I have no idea what he has up his sleeve. The only thing I could think of is of they ended up with no-one and remained good friends. That way Jelliot shippers would have the satisfaction that no opposing ships happened and they are still friends while non Jelliot shippers would be happy that they didn't get together romantically. However, I would still be a little dissapointed with that ending because we want them to be together as well as great friends. So, what ever he does I hope will stay true to what he says, but then again the fact that he doesn't want a Jelliot ending makes me nervous (although Zach is and he does have some creative influence on the show).
I think people need to stop being so cynical about them. It should happen, and it better. I just don't understand how Bill thinks we'll be satisfied if they don't. If they are with no one, I guess I can handle that, but it's such an open ending. Anything can happen from that point, and I don't want Scrubs to end that way.

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Something else I would like to point out, if JD and Elliot were no intended to be together than why break them up with the only things standing in their way. JD and Kim are no longer together so the baby is no longer an obligation for him to stay. And Elliot and Keith are no longer getting married (are they actually broken up for good?) so both are single. Why do this? They are intended to have happy endings so why split Elliot and Keith up and have Kim let JD go from his obligation to stay when they could have him just realise he loves her so he can have a happy ending? Possibly because that's not where their happy endings are.
That's what I'm saying!! Why should we be teased with this. I had already accepted that they wouldn't get together after Season 5. I wanted them to still, of course, but I would have been able to handle it if they didn't. Bringing that story back is just cruel.

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I don't think they're so right for each other its crazy. Every time they were together they would mess it up on their own. there was a time they were together because JD always wants what he can't have. Their first time together was a complete mess. and ever since then the only thing we saw was JD being jealous of Keith and then only when Keith decides to propose does he remember that he's the one for Elliot.. is that what it means that they're so right? I don't think so.
You have to understand though, they were kids. They were stupid back then, and being new interns and residents was a lot of stress. I don't think any relationship they could have had there would have been all fine and dandy. Sean had some potential, but Elliot decided to leave him, she can't blame anyone for that since that is a choice she made. They were BOTH lost back then, and it's true now that they have grown up. I mean JD is still a man child, and Elliot is still crazy, but relationship wise they can handle the commitement thing.

We know after Julie that JD wants someone he can settle with. He couldn't do that with Kim since she did hurt him, pretty badly. Maybe if she didn't make that mistake he would actually have feelings for her. We know after Keith that while Elliot is ready for marriage, that was really all she wanted. But she was mature enough to understand that marrying Keith would have been a big mistake. Turk was right, none of the girls were right for JD aside from Molebutt, they were both just to immature to understand that.

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I think he should not consider anyone's wish but his own.
I agree with you too. Bill should really think about what he wants to do with the show. But he said he's always known how it was going to end, so I'm guessing he is doing what he wants. :shrug:

Damnit Janine, you got there before me. Whatever, I'll just say I agree with you. :nod:
I love the discussions we have here. :D

~Jules~ 11-04-2007 01:48 AM

thanks for the caps, too cute


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