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Anneris 04-02-2013 12:23 PM

So after reading the past couple of pages I'd missed I think my theory for the finale goes as follows:

Since Neal is the only one who's been seen shooting with aurora, Mulan and Phillip; since he's the only he that seems to be missing from the group running for Henry or on the boat and since apparently he doesn't find out about Tamara being a baddie (and the actor wrapped up earlier than anyone else)... I'm guessing something happens to him early on in the episode and he ends up somewhere other than SB.

Emma and the Charmings have to go tell Henry in that scene where Henry's playing on the rope swing, and thus sad mother-son hug ensues. Gold is probably there too either because he already knows and is going to talk to the Charmings or because the Charmings called him to meet there so they can tell him without being heard by anyone in town since they don't trust Greg or Tamara or Regina (I'm assuming this just because I'm really expecting to see a scene where she finds out who Neal really is before he disappears).

They talk about trying to get him back but dont know where he is or how to look for him and they probably want to send Henry off with Ruby again to protect him; which makes him upset because he wants to help find his dad and this makes him run away again which ends up with him going with Tamara and Greg if they convince him that they know where Neal is and tell him he's in NL and Henry can get them there because he's a little boy just like the lost boys are... Either that or they kidnap him in exchange for Emma's or Regina's magic or some way to access magic that they think those women can provide.

Because neither Tamara nor Greg have the power to send the kid anywhere (and why would they really want to anyway? If he's gone he's not a bargaining chip anymore), I can only see Henry ending up in NL if he actually wants to be there because he thinks that's where his dad is and he gets taken by one of the lost boys or if someme sends him there (but who? Gold? He totally could if he wants to find a way to get rid of his undoing; and then he could say T&G did it and who wouldn't believe him if they've taken the kid in the first place!).

Thus, we have a conundrum in the finale in which the group needs to rescue both Henry and Neal and end up splitting up someway in order to find them both (I just really don't see them all heading in one direction). Maybe the Charmings and Regina off to NL with Hook since he knows how to get there, and Gold and Belle off to persue Neal who they know now is somewhere with Mulan and those guys.

Maybe the dwarfs and tiny can be left in charge of town. Or even granny! She's apretty tough cookie and we already know she has scenes with them in the episode :shrug:

K, rant over :lol:

Demileto 04-02-2013 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Miss Cam (Post 68708449)
Once Upon a Time - Season 2 - Set Photos - 1st April 2013 - Dock Scene

Greg and Tamara taking Henry, by the look of things.

This is why all the regular cast is boarding Hook's ship. It's not because they'll be heading to Neverland, it's that they'll be chasing Greg and Tamara on the sea.

taragenie 04-02-2013 01:09 PM

Video of the Tamra, Greg, and Henry scene - VCF - Once Upon a Time - Season 2 Finale - Set Video

You can see that Greg throws a bean and then they all run and jump into a portal.

OUATKatya 04-02-2013 01:16 PM

So maybe Tamara and Greg get some beans... and they send Neal to current FTL to get him out of the way when he catches on to their scheme? :shrug: Then they kidnap Henry to NL. But the why is the big question. I also think Tamara is using Greg. He would want to keep Henry as motivation for Regina to return his father. But what is Tamara after?

FAU 04-02-2013 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by taragenie (Post 68710632)
Video of the Tamra, Greg, and Henry scene - VCF - Once Upon a Time - Season 2 Finale - Set Video

You can see that Greg throws a bean and then they all run and jump into a portal.

Yeah it's all coming together.

MaryLouMoriarty 04-02-2013 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Anneris (Post 68709633)
Thus, we have a conundrum in the finale in which the group needs to rescue both Henry and Neal and end up splitting up someway in order to find them both (I just really don't see them all heading in one direction). Maybe the Charmings and Regina off to NL with Hook since he knows how to get there, and Gold and Belle off to persue Neal who they know now is somewhere with Mulan and those guys.

I hadn't thought of that. It would definitely make sense. But I do hope that they (Neal, Gold and Belle) eventually join the Charmings/Regina/Hook in Neverland. I just don't think it's such a good idea to tell stories of people who are in 3 different places.


As for Tamara taking Henry, I have to say that despite my hatred towards her, I really hope that the writers keep her as a (hopefully badass) villain. I don't want them to introduce new villains every season. Plus, I know the actress from The Walking Dead and I like her. lol

Radames 04-02-2013 01:22 PM

Yeah looks like Greg is throwing a bean in the water so this could be before the fight or after.

Lucas4Brooke 04-02-2013 01:30 PM

So if Tamara & Greg take Henry to FTL or NL through the magic bean I have to wonder what the game changer between Neal & Rum is then? I guess it's going to be Rum letting go of his fear of Henry and working with the Charmings to find both him and his son. I'm just glad that it seems like Rumple doesn't do anything to Henry. I knew he wouldn't hurt him but it's nice to see he doesn't. IA that if the main 7 are separated they meet up somehow next season.

Demileto 04-02-2013 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by OUATKatya (Post 68710824)
So maybe Tamara and Greg get some beans... and they send Neal to current FTL to get him out of the way when he catches on to their scheme? :shrug: Then they kidnap Henry to NL. But the why is the big question. I also think Tamara is using Greg. He would want to keep Henry as motivation for Regina to return his father. But what is Tamara after?

I've seen people speculating on another board that Tamara will be revealed as the daughter of Robin Hood and Marian. Both characters are not mentioned as having a SB counterpart on the press release of Lacey (unlike the Sheriff of Nottinghan, who'll be Keith), which could point to them being dead by the time the curse is cast, and the actress who'll play Marian looks like she could be Tamara's mother.

I'm not particularly fond of that theory, but if it does come to pass, then it'll be even more clear Tamara is intended to be seen as a dark reflection of Emma:

- Emma's caucasian, Tamara's afro-american;
- Emma drives an outdated car, Tamara drives a modern one;
- Emma met Neal by chance and really loved/loves him, Tamara met Neal intentionally and is just faking her love to him;
- They'll both end up having known FTL characters as parents, but while Emma remained good despite having a rough live, Tamara became as evil as the enemies of her parents.

Ron_Beckett 04-02-2013 01:43 PM

Just saw the new stills with Tamara, Henry, and Greg and I just about flipped!

Everything is coming together now. It's so exciting.

If all goes well and we get a season 3 we just might get to see Neverland.

FAU 04-02-2013 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Ron_Cullen (Post 68711587)
Just saw the new stills with Tamara, Henry, and Greg and I just about flipped!

Everything is coming together now. It's so exciting.

If all goes well and we get a season 3 we just might get to see Neverland.

We'll probably see a bit of it in the finale at the very least. :P

Ron_Beckett 04-02-2013 01:54 PM

Yeah true :nod:

Still can't believe that's happening.

I was expecting the Tamara/Greg stuff to last a bit longer but the fact that she's abducting Henry now at this stage is very shocking.

koodles 04-02-2013 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Lucas4Brooke (Post 68711235)
So if Tamara & Greg take Henry to FTL or NL through the magic bean I have to wonder what the game changer between Neal & Rum is then? I guess it's going to be Rum letting go of his fear of Henry and working with the Charmings to find both him and his son. I'm just glad that it seems like Rumple doesn't do anything to Henry. I knew he wouldn't hurt him but it's nice to see he doesn't. IA that if the main 7 are separated they meet up somehow next season.

Yeah, I'm still not convinced at what is happening here. Maybe Mulan and Aurora are actually in Neverland. Maybe they managed to make their way there because Phillip's soul is being kept there.

I don't think they're going to split the main cast up into two epic quests. I think that would be overkill. At least, I hope not. I have a feeling everyone is just going to end up in Neverland and when that journey is over, they'll return to Storybrooke. We already saw FTL post-curse and there really wasn't much going on there. It would be kind of lame to send any characters back there. Eddy and Adam seemed very excited about Neverland so I have a feeling that's where everyone is going to end up.

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Originally Posted by Demileto (Post 68711350)
I'm not particularly fond of that theory, but if it does come to pass, then it'll be even more clear Tamara is intended to be seen as a dark reflection of Emma:

- Emma's caucasian, Tamara's afro-american;
- Emma drives an outdated car, Tamara drives a modern one;
- Emma met Neal by chance and really loved/loves him, Tamara met Neal intentionally and is just faking her love to him;
- They'll both end up having known FTL characters as parents, but while Emma remained good despite having a rough live, Tamara became as evil as the enemies of her parents.

I saw a complaint on Tumblr about Once casting a black actress to play a villain as if it was racist. It's not. She's just an actress playing an evil character.

I don't think Tamara is meant to be a dark reflection of Emma. I just think she's the new villain and her being black has nothing to do with it. Yes, the show has done a poor job of creating a diverse cast. I agree with that. But there has been no indication that the actress was cast as Tamara because she was black. Lancelot is the only other back actor we have seen this season and his character saved Snow and Charming and presided over their wedding.

So maybe lets not try to discuss Tamara being black as an indicator of her dark intentions. :shrug:

FAU 04-02-2013 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Ron_Cullen (Post 68711871)
Yeah true :nod:

Still can't believe that's happening.

I was expecting the Tamara/Greg stuff to last a bit longer but the fact that she's abducting Henry now at this stage is very shocking.

It might carry over into next season.

Ron_Beckett 04-02-2013 02:25 PM

Yeah I think so too. Still I wasn't expecting Tamara (and Greg for this matter) to make that kind of move until at least season 3.


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