I try not to look too much into what Katie being in tons of BTS photos means. It could mean anything. IMO, though, I'm betting it has more to do with the hate she receives from certain shippers than anything. Like, look at the comments of the picture Stephen posted of them earlier. "We want Olicity!" "Felicity is better!" "Tell her to eat a sandwich!" "Laurel sucks!" The best way for the cast and crew to combat is to show that they support Katie. Sorry to say, but the crazy Olicity shippers are going to ruin it for all of you. This is probably just the beginning of that.

I'm not here for it at all and feel like the main reason people want it so bad is because it keeps her out of the Arrow Cave, tbh. And, if that's the case, there's other ways to keep her out of the cave. Just have her set-up shop in the Startling City Clock Tower and work from there.

Laurel going bad is just out of character. Since day one, and it's been true no matter what she's gone through, Laurel wants to help people. So, her suddenly being a villain makes no sense. That's not who she is.

I agree, Katie's best in that kind of role, but I don't want Laurel to be Ruby 3.0. I'm okay with her being a bit darker and rougher after he experiences, but I don't want her to be another The Huntress. I want her to still be compassionate and eager to help people, but I think she should also have a bit of an edge. They should have a little fun with her.

Instead of her being evil, they should take those members of Team Arrow that people don't want and give them to Laurel, tbh. Have her take Sin under her wings after Sara dies. Have Roy get a heroin addiction and Oliver tell him to get out. Then have Laurel help him get through it. Have Thea become Speedy and have Oliver be against it. Then have Laurel be the one who works with her so she doesn't get herself killed. Have Laurel help Helena redeem herself. That's more in-line with who Laurel is. When people are at their worst, she sees they can be better and wants to help.

Hmm, Katie's working with a personal trainer. I wonder why?

But the point you make about making her a darker BC with edge may work. Am curious to see WHAT they do. The guy on the After Arrow Show shockingly liked her this last episode and he has never liked her, so maybe there's hope

I do hope they don't kill Sara though. Limited recurring yes, kill no.

Thanks for your input! I was just curious.

Don't most actors work with a personal trainer to keep fit?

If you showed a picture of her with a martial arts trainer, like Sarah Michelle Gellar (as Buffy) had a tae kwon do trainer...then I'd think it would mean something.



Wait...isn't Sara a "dark" enough for BC, as it is? If I remember clearly, it was implied heavily that she assisted Ivo in his experiments. That is not for those with light stomachs. This is a person who is fairly unmoved by things. Then she was a trained LoA assassin. Unless Laurel becomes possessed by Satan, then I don't see how anyone can beat that?

Personally for me...no one else can beat Sara as BC. They can have Canary who's evilly twisted like Huntress...but at which point; she's not so much evil as it she is deranged.

But I don't see a darker BC with edge makes sense? I need a definition...and then have that definition compared to who Sara is.

I do agree..I love Sara. I don't like the massive screen presence, mainly because of the really really painful acting. Otherwise, I think I would like her a lot. Also, I am tired of Lance drama. I'm just tired of the large Lance presence.

It's interesting you mention this because there was a quote that came through twitter from someone. The quote was from AK about BC, BUT THERE WAS NO SOURCE! That kills me. But the quote was saying how BC and GA are of a different moral fibre — she was trained by the LoA. And yes, the whole 'what DID she do on the boat' is very questionable. I do think she has an inner darkness we have yet to truly see.

Maybe she and the Huntress will go off together and rehabilitate each other, pull each other into the light and then come back and set up shop in the Clock Tower with Felicity coord all — I LIKE

Meh, yes comic book dinah and tv laurel are both sympathetic....but you still have to sell the super hero level fighting skills IN THIS VERSE and come up with a good reason and time frame for her to develop them.
And eta, i personally saw laurel last season as being a bit of a self righteous so gooder....and especially this season, when she first found out Sarah was alive. That was ugly. You can't say her reaction wasn't ugly....her sister came back from the dead and she couldn't be glad, not even a little at first. She was driven to help those that couldn't help themselves, but she was also bitter. A lot of the drive to help others seemed to have died with Tommy. If she is truly on the upswing, then this is laurel v3...

There's so much more to her than just fighting. And, lbr, that's all Sara is. The woman in those comic panels? That's Laurel. The compassionate woman who wants to help people. Sara may be the "perfect" Black Canary on a superficial level, but where it really matters, she's not. Laurel is Black Canary in the ways it matters. The other stuff? The fighting and the costume? That's easily obtained. But actually pure desire to help people, that's what Laurel's had since the pilot. Sara is too selfish to ever be that way.

And do you think Sara would have even bothered with Sin if it wasn't for meeting her father on the island? Like, I'm not saying Sara doesn't have her moments, but it's Laurel who instinctively wants to help people.

And it's really unfair to judge Laurel based on how she was acting during her time as a drug addict. Like, that was her rock bottom. Excuse her for not throwing Sara a party. I love that we can forgive Sara for the terrible thing she did to her sister, but Laurel's a bad person for being angry about it? Like, even after the the boat accident, Sara still disregards her sister to be with Oliver. Like, she's still the same, selfish Sara at heart.

Like, of course Laurel wasn't running around trying to save people while she was dealing with depression and addiction. Like, do you expect her to? She needed saving herself. Not to mention there was less focus on her job and she no longer worked for a non-profit. so that side wasn't being shown very often. Except when she went after Brother Blood.

And if one sister wants to help people, then the other can't possibly want to help people. Its not mutually exclusive.

Darkstar, love what you said, that this is Sara's journey out of darkness. I think there are probably some things that need to be revealed to flesh out the rest of the darkness (thus the comments on the island). But yeah....love that thought. I really hope at some point we get to see more of sara's journey in flashback, and not as it pertains Oliver.

Did you skip all the episodes that have aired since January?