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Lain 04-28-2006 12:36 PM

Anime Sub or Dub?: The debate starts over...
 
Don't get this confused with the title that's on the Anime Appreciation thread. :)

I'm still sticking with my beliefs that the original sub is a lot better. Of course, there's still a few exceptions when it comes to dubbing and they are...

-Witch Hunter Robin
-Nightwalker
-Vampire Hunter D: Bloodlust

And I think there's a few more but I can't think of it right now.

Jedisakora 04-28-2006 01:51 PM

Too bad we lost the old forum. We're getting into a good debate.

I think the oriningal sub is good also.

Another exception to the dub is .Hack//Sign.

Lain 04-28-2006 10:18 PM

I know...I had posted up some nice quotes from the site that thought CardCaptor Sakura was bad to watch because it dealt with magic...or something like that :lol:

Is the Sailor Moon thread still around. If it is, I guess I can repost those funny Sailor Moon rumors :lol: Ah that cracked me up, especially with the one who wrote that e-mail saying that Leonardo Dicaprio was gonna be one of the voice actors for Sailor Moon :rotfl:

Princess Bing 04-29-2006 05:39 AM

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Originally Posted by angel_boogiepop
I know...I had posted up some nice quotes from the site that thought CardCaptor Sakura was bad to watch because it dealt with magic...or something like that :lol:

Is the Sailor Moon thread still around. If it is, I guess I can repost those funny Sailor Moon rumors :lol: Ah that cracked me up, especially with the one who wrote that e-mail saying that Leonardo Dicaprio was gonna be one of the voice actors for Sailor Moon :rotfl:

Going to be? Is there a re-issue or something? :confused:

Re: dub. I haven't seen that many to be a judge, but I just think the comedies should never be dubbed. Especially the very slapstick ones like Naruto. :rolleyes: Forgive me if you disagree.

Lain 04-29-2006 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Princess Bing
Going to be? Is there a re-issue or something? :confused:

Re: dub. I haven't seen that many to be a judge, but I just think the comedies should never be dubbed. Especially the very slapstick ones like Naruto. :rolleyes: Forgive me if you disagree.

No no no no...there is this page that has these crazy (and some of them dumb) rumors of Sailor Moon. So obviously, the one about Leo Dicaprio was an obvious lie. :D

Here's the link if you wanna check it out: Dumb Sailor Moon Rumors

And it's all right if you like dub. Everyone has their opinion about sub or dub...

Jedisakora 05-01-2006 07:39 AM

:lol: If Leonardo Decaprio did a voice it'll be the biggest cartoon on tv ;)

Lain 05-01-2006 01:01 PM

Okay, if anyone is confused, here's that e-mail again from that site:

Quote:

An e-mail message someone forwarded to me. Actually, I think it's pretty funny since it's so outrageous and stupid, I think only an idiot would fall for it.
From: "Guy Rickles" (dic_rep_2068@hotmail.com)
Subject: You're The First to Know!
Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 10:19:52 PDT

Hello. My name is Guy Rickles, a marketing rep. for the DiC company. I've been watching your sight, and may you be the first to know that we are continuing our Sailor Moon series.

Not only will we be dubbing Sailor Moon S through Sailor Moon Sailor Stars, but we are also developing Sailor Moon B, or better known as Sailor Moon Beyond. Sailor Moon B is based upon the series of manga that Ms. Noechko-san is developing as we speak.

Of coarse, there will be suttle changes, like Sailor Uranus will be a male. Here at DiC, we saw the Uranus/Neptune relationship as a great thing, but here we don't appreciate homosexuality. Uranus's name will be Carlos AƱos, a Spanish adition so that we don't offend any of our Latin-American viewers.

Sailor Pluto, Sailor Neptune and Sailor Saturn will go through extreme changes as well. Sailor Pluto won't be lonesome, she'll be the most popular of all the scouts with many friends. Sailor Neptune won't be rich. We feel that it would show children that they're worthless.

Sailor Saturn, who in the Japanese version was posessed will not be in our version because she my scare children and that is not what we are going for.

We are also dropping the Amazon Trio because we don't approve of their transvestite-ism and the fact that their method of removing the Heart Crystals or whatever they are resembles rape to an extent.

We have new voice casting for all of the cast who are :

Serena/Sailor Moon : Tara Charendoff
Amy/Sailor Mercury : Annie Pots
Rai/Sailor Mars : Melissa Gilbert
Lita/Sailor Jupiter : Alicia Silverstone
Mina/Sailor Venus : Joanna Lumley
Rini/Small Lady : Mary-Kate and Ashley Olsen
Cecelia/Sailor Pluto : Sarah Michelle Gellar
Carlos/Sailor Uranus : Johnny Galackie
Michelle/Sailor Neptune : Jennifer Love Hewitt
Christine/Sailor Saturn : Neve Campbell
Darien/Tuxedo Mask : Leonardo DiCaprio
Luna : Oprah Winfrey
Artemis : Alan Thicke
Diana : Tracy Gold

And now for more information of Sailor Moon B. Serena and Darien get married and Rini finally accepts them as her parents. Cecelia won't be a major character, just sit around in the background being mobbed by all of her friends.

Also, due to the pace that the manga is being produced, we have a few filler episodes before the actual story arc starts up. The first three revolve around Amy trying to cope with the loss of her father in a car accident. The next two are Cecelia and Darien kissing, but Serena forgives them becasue they were just experimenting. The last one is another Amy, when she falls in love with another boy and leaves her old boyfriend for him.

I hope that you are very pleased with all this, for you are the first to know!

Sincerely,
Guy Rickles
One more time before I head for class...this is not going to take place. Some guy who was smoking some crack wrote this so it's a fake :lmao:

Jedisakora 05-01-2006 03:19 PM

I think they were smoking more than crack ;)

Lain 05-11-2006 07:51 PM

If I have to pick the worst dubbing, it would have to be (sadly) Yu-Gi-Oh. Although the Japanese version was a lot more entertaining, the dubbing company had some potential to appeal to "kids" without kissing the FCC and those parent groups that boycott any "violence", "nudity", and "the random stuff".

Now don't get me wrong, dubbing is fine. At least you won't have to read subtitles, especially if you're illiterate (no really, I have friends who hate reading subtitles while watching something foreign). But I guess it's the way you dub. Sailor Moon may have cut out a few episodes (although having DiC's rights to the series expire a few years later makes up for it...somewhat) but YGO has just the craziest dubbing techniques.

This explains why people are pissed at the fact that One Piece had a lot (not like one or two...a LOT) of episodes cut off.

After watching the American and Japanese version and going to the nifty site a.k.a Yu-Jyo.net I will give you my two cents on what gets cut off or edited. (Oh by the way, the evidence lies in that site with the pictures.

Blood- Fine...I can live with that. Especially when there are those scenes that Bakura or Atemu (a.k.a Yami) are coughing up blood.

Light- No this doesn't get cut off or edited. It's actually edited thanks to 4Kids. Apparently, 4Kids has this strange fetish for adding light gimmicks. Ex. Monsters slashing off other monsters, or during one of Yugi's matches when the chainsaw is replaced with a laser disc. Or if someone dies, light surrounds them (no this is not in the original) and apparently, they're not dead. Well...we know where they're going for this one.

Violence- Well, depends on how extreme the violence is but some of them are pretty much slapstick (Mai slapping Jounouchi).

Dialogue- All right, obviously our mouth movements compared to a Japanese mouth movement is different so obviously it's kinda hard to make the dialogue word for word. One of the reasons why I had stopped watching after the whole Yami no Marik thing is the endless rants of friendship. (Actually, in the Japanese version, it does come and go but not everytime).

Signs- I think the point that the American cartoons are trying to make is that even the easiest words (like Kaiba...and Land) would make no sense to kids and views them as full on illiterate. Fine, take the Chinese signs out but what's the point of taking out bathroom signs, keyboard signs, signs (exit signs) and building signs (hospital)? How are we supposed to tell that's a hospital and not one of Seto's many penthouse suites? :irked:

Sorry...just that my renewed faith has come back to look up that YGO site and watch my imported DVD. It's all right if you guys like dub and supposedly, it's aimed for kids but there's just a lot of dumb dubbing going on.

My only hope is that 4Kids loses its rights to the series just as DiC (and now Cloverway) loses theirs to Sailor Moon. But it's my opinion :D

Jedisakora 05-12-2006 05:11 PM

I didn't know there was that much wrong :lol: Those dubbers must have fun trying to find ways to cut things or overwrite things out ;)

Lain 05-12-2006 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Jedisakora
I didn't know there was that much wrong :lol: Those dubbers must have fun trying to find ways to cut things or overwrite things out ;)

Check out the site some time. You'll see a lot of stuff cut off for no reason. And the signs one is the most dumbest one of them all.

But I love to rant about the way 4Kids dubs their anime series. But could've been worse. We might have had a live-action Yu-Gi-Oh and all the monsters (or at least the non-human looking ones) would resemble the ones from Power Rangers :lmao:

Jedisakora 05-13-2006 07:37 AM

Live Action :lol: Oh that was good one. It would be like the Japenese Live Sailor Moon. At least we would be happy that the graphics and filming would be better her in the US ;)

Lain 05-13-2006 07:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jedisakora
Live Action :lol: Oh that was good one. It would be like the Japenese Live Sailor Moon. At least we would be happy that the graphics and filming would be better her in the US ;)

One thing won't go away. And that's the friendship rants and "the heart of the cards".

Or maybe it'll be like how "Saban Moon" could've been. Half live-action, half cartoon :lmao:

Jedisakora 05-14-2006 10:09 AM

I forgot about that. Sailor Jupiter can blast everyone in her wheelchair :lol:

I want to see a live actor talk about the heart of the cards with a straight face and sound serious ;)

Lain 05-14-2006 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Jedisakora
I forgot about that. Sailor Jupiter can blast everyone in her wheelchair :lol:

I want to see a live actor talk about the heart of the cards with a straight face and sound serious ;)

I don't know. If I had to do it, I'd have to go through that scene about 20 times because I wouldn't stop laughing :lol:


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