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I really miss living in a pre-social media era where things actually stayed under wraps

The surprise element has mostly gone

The Scream movies declined in quality but I do still love 1-3 and the killer reveals. I think Kevin did a good job of keeping them varied and giving them good motives.

Yes I did like the reveal of Scott Foley as Sidney's brother even though a lot of people we like "meh"

Butterfly85

I miss it too, cause I was always shocked by things that happened back then lol. Now they get leaked or you at least get hints about where things are headed. No genuine surprise anymore really. I liked Sidney's brother being the killer in the third film too, but I do still hate that there isn't a second killer. I still don't get why the third film is the only one with one killer.

Crystal Clear

Even though it breaks the pattern, I think it kinda makes sense. Given the context, we learn that he manipulated Billy (someone who's not stupid and not easily led unless provoked by his parental issues) - and given that it turns out to be a blood relative behind it all, I think it was the writer's way of depicting her brother as a true loner and sociopath who liked to think of himself as the genius pulling the strings. If they had given him a partner, maybe it would have implied some weakness on his part. He's able to have Sidney suspect a lot of people (many with good reason) and the fact that she didn't know she had a brother (I think? ) meant that the final confrontation was like a 90's version of Laurie vs Michael Myers from the Halloween series.

Or maybe I'm over thinking it / giving them too much credit and they just wanted to keep it simple

atwoodsmariano

haven’t seen the 3rd one...

Crystal Clear

I'll give you a basic two-line summary then

PRO: The killer is Sidney's long-lost brother, who masterminded the whole thing because their mother walked out on him and built a life with Sidney instead (Scott Foley is surprisingly good as a nerdy filmmaker on the brink of unhinged madness).

CON: They ret-con the first movie by having Sidney's brother be the one to manipulate Billy into a revenge mission by showing him tapes of his father meeting up to have sex with Sidney's mother (this might have been better if we had gotten actual scenes filmed of Foley's character manipulating Skeet Ulrich).

My Kind Of Crazy

Crystal Clear

Wait, I'm totally confused.

If (according to Courteney Cox) it's not a remake or a reboot OR sequel but something "completely new", then is she even playing the same character?

I don't get it. Unless she's exaggerating to make it sound more interesting?

stlavin95

I'm confused too

Crystal Clear

I think that's why it's a mistake to keep continuing all these sagas from the past. Leave them alone because they'll only end up getting run into the ground.

I still haven't seen the 4th one all the way through. Just saw some of the ending (and I didn't like what I saw in the trailer)

stlavin95

Agreed, kinda has been run into the ground already

Crystal Clear

I'm surprised it's not weird at all for Courteney and David to keep filming these together... Although it's lovely that they're still civil

stlavin95

Probably helps they have been divorced for a while too

Butterfly85

I forgot they are divorced now. I love the Scream movies, but this fifth movie seems pointless and too late. The fourth film came out ten years ago, that's when they should of done Scream 5. They said back then there would be a new trilogy then they just up and left for ten years. Now you want to do a fifth film? I just don't get the point and don't really care anymore lol.

Crystal Clear

It reminds me of when they announced a 4th Toy Story movie after promising everyone that the series would remain a trilogy because the third one was a beautiful ending.

P.S. The 4th Toy Story was absolute bottom of the pile trash. I was disgusted as a loyal fan of that series. They ruined so many characters (e.g. Bo Peep) and integral relationships. Woody and Buzz barely even talked to each other. I'd love for that movie to be disregarded from canon.

SCREAM is basically becoming the new Pirates of the Caribbrean. They're churning new ones out in an era that has no place for them, and without any regard for how these beloved characters are becoming bland and repetitive. How many times can Sydney wrestle with the same demons?

Plus I don't think the stakes were ever higher than in the first movie. You can't beat the reveal that the long-term boyfriend who she just lost her virginity to (plus his best friend who was part of their inner circle for years) had betrayed her like that. Nothing will ever measure up to that level of drama in the series or those performances from Neve, Skeet and Matthew.

stlavin95

Me neither, plus I didn't really want a fourth one either