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Same with Queen Victoria burning her diary entries / letters. I want to know what the ones that didn't survive say. |
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:shrug: It is literally impossible to know for sure. It's possible Edward had them murdered, but it's equally as likely that they just died from getting a cold. Quote:
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I am listening to a book right now about Queen V being a matchmaker for her kids and grandkids. |
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Obviously, our sense of justice demands that his evil acts have consequences, and his cowardly suicide robbed humanity of that. But, once he's dead, I'm kinda not interested in his suffering. I know it might be weird, but I feel Hitler's time after life would have been better spent in reparations than in expiation. Quote:
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Exact opposite ways of governing, exaxt same impact. :shrug: Go figure. :) I never know what to think of Victoria, in the end. As a parent, she was a monster. As a woman, she was self-centered and selfish... but then what else was she supposed to be? Everything around her was all about her. It's just hard to reconcile how she could get away with it, but then it was such a different time. |
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It's probably what saved British monarchy from ending up like Czar Nicholas II and other European royals that WWI got rid of. Quote:
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And my paternal grandfather's specific ancestry is a freaking mystery. Aside from the fact that his father (who died during WWI at age 28) was born in Scotland and his mother was Irish in some way or other (whether born there herself or born of someone who was is a total mystery), nobody knows anything for sure. We're not even sure what the family surname actually is since there were a couple of adoptions along the way. I'd also love to meet historical figures, though. Or, maybe not so much meet as... behold? Like, I'd be really intimidated to introduce myself to Jane Austen, but I'd like to be in her presence. :lol: Quote:
But, for the rest of it, you're completely right. Like Swedish, Soanish and Belgian monarchy, English monarchs owe their survival in some part to Victoria paving the way for their being mostly symbolic and her son building on that to add the pomp and circumstance bit. Quote:
Considering how Edward went on to raise his kids to fear him, and then his son George V also raised his kids to fear him, it's a bit of a miracle that George VI was such a doting father to his daughters. I don't know how he managed to break the cycle, but I have a lot of admiration for that. |
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Do you have a current celeb crush? Quote:
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My grandma died when I was 7, so I would love to have more (eternal) time with her. It's somehow sadder when a grandparent dies when the grandkid is young because all the questions you should ask a grandparent aren't thought up at that time. Even with my grandfather, he died when I was 20 and there's so much I would ask him now because I have an interest and the questions have been thought of. Quote:
Too bad records aren't better. Although churches keep very good records, so maybe family history can be looked into that way? Quote:
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Anyway... lol: Still agreat movie. Just a weird ending. I did kinda wish Jerome and the Uma Thurman character could have, I don't know... been friends or something. Quote:
The bit about the suicide person's version of hell is that it was their life, only with everything going wrong. Their house with pest invasions. Things that keep getting lost. The hell part isn't torture. It's thinking that you're still in the life that made you want to die. Which was total nightmare fuel for me. Even as a person who doesn't believe in hell. Quote:
So, I'd be curious to find out about the more distant stuff... but I'd be fascinated to really talk to the people who are closer to me in the timeline. Quote:
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On the Scottish sides, my greatgrandfather seems to have been illegitimate. So that's gonna remain a mystery. Quote:
:lol: Basically, everything I love about Jane Austen means I may very well not be up to snuff. Quote:
That's how alike the Russian czar and his cousin, the English king, looked. George V is the one who de-Germanized all the royal family names because he was afraid the people would turn on them after WWI. I think maybe he sacrificed his cousin Nicholas and his family because he was afraid that his bringing an actual "god made me special to rule over my people" monarch to the English isles would put his own reign in danger. Quote:
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And, since we want to talk about crushes, can we discuss Colin Firth playing George VI in The King's Speech? His utter desolation at being forced to become king when he's got that stutter... |
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It was actually George II's son, Frederick, who did that. Poor Augusta. I think I would've cursed him out if I was her and slapped him away. I really don't get why Frederick's mother was so cold with him. It's the strangest relationship. And then calling your granddaughter a "poor, ugly little she-mouse"..... what the hell Caroline? Quote:
Oh, and also, with his stutter he must've felt deficient and like he couldn't be mean to everyone, you know? |
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I'm always, perhaps morbidly, amused when I hear stuff like that. Like, did they run a survey on the people who have died? :lol: Quote:
In a sense, the whole "point" of Jerome disappears if he doesn't end up killing himself. I don't love seeing it that way, but the character was meant to show that, even with all the planning in the world, you can't guarantee success and humans have a hard enough time as it is dealing with hardships and perceived failure... messing with DNA only would heighten that. Quote:
Anyway, trying to get away from morbid... The movie's gorgeous. It spends most of its time in the "good place," if you will. And it's stunning and beautiful and uplifting. There's something about the types of lens they picked... like, at no point was this an animated movie, but certain scenes were like bringing paintings to real life. Gorgeous. Quote:
I'd want to talk to my ancestors and tell them that they are not forgotten... which is darn silly since I have no clue who they are... but you get the point. I want to know them. To remember them. To honour them. Quote:
:shrug: I don't know. As I've mentioned before, I can't vouch for my ability to remain cool in the presence of a celebrity. And Jane Austen isn't "just" a celebrity to me. She's an icon. She's a legend... Quote:
I mean, I'm assuming they knew at the time that the Czar and his family were killed. I know it was hushed up in Russia/the nascent USSR, but surely intelligence communities worldwide knew the truth and, if they did, then the King of England had to have been told. It was ruthless of him to prevent his cousin and that cousin's family to be saved. I wonder if that ruthlessness would extend to being able to live with that decision afterwards, once it the consequences came to light. I can't imagine a normal person living with that. But then a King of England is, yes, normal like the rest of us in many ways, but maybe not in their ability to justify their lives and decisions. Quote:
But, like Victoria, she apparently had no love for babies. Victoria said they looked like frogs. They did have weirdly emotional-but-distant relationships with their kids. Both obviously prefered their husbands to their children... which is sweet, if you're romantic, but kinda disturbing, too. Quote:
Anyway everyone would pale compared to Colin Firth, for sure. (And if Colin Firth smoke, please, no one tell me.) The bit in the movie where he talks about his brother Johnny... Prince John had epilepsy, which worsened as he reached puberty and he was eventually removed from the public eye and taken care of on a farm or something. And then he died of his condition during his teenage years. Now, George VI would have been much older than the youngest of the six kids, but stuttering and having epilepsy may have seen similar enough to him to wonder or to identify with his baby brother. :shrug: Sometimes we learn compassion through pretty hard lessons. |
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Like Ewan McGregor's ex-wife said her father had no interest in her when she was a kid. But then once she grew up and could talk about more mature subjects, he started caring more. Quote:
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Speaking of Prince John, a number of years ago I watched this documentary about him. It's really good, though I do have to warn you 18 minutes in they show video of people have epileptic seizures in the early 20th century, and the fact that they're just being videoed and no one is trying to help in any way is hard to stomach. |
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Vincent's brother was like Jerome, but on a more bargain-level. That was the point of Jerome. His parents were filthy rich and paid the megabucks to have a winner for a son. And his swimming career was good, but he wasn't Michael Phelps. Quote:
And that shot is a good taste of what the movie looks like, except it doesn't just stick with painting. It's art. And, like, I don't usually get movies about art. :lol: The movie is not about art, it's just surrounded by it in every shot. Maybe that's why I get this one. :) Quote:
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I'm one of those people other people think can't possibly be introverted because my default is to fill a silence with endless jibber-jabber. I am introverted. I'm just not shy. I think I'm getting better at it. But it's deeply ingrained. How's your reaction to meeting famous or admired people? Quote:
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I gotta say, the smell factor alone is one of the many reasons why I'm so grateful to be living in the time I live in. :lol: Quote:
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I mean, I'm very much of the school of "don't have kids if you can't handle the fact that they'll rely on you," but my dad turned out to be an amazingly decent guy the second I could stand on my own two feet. And it wasn't that he didn't care before. I really do thing he just couldn't handle it. Quote:
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But, yeah, that is generally the way I feel about actors when I see them playing roles. Even when it comes to nudity. Obviously, it must be different for them because it's their body, but I don't feel like I'm seeing their bits, but the character's bits. :shrug: Quote:
But I also grew up during the AIDS epidemic, and if you want disturbing images of people suffering to the point of death without any help, you need look no further than what was going on back then. |
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so ridiculous that people can't be trusted to bathe and need a "professional" watchful eye. The thought alone is making me gag Quote:
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Past women didn't have much choice but modern women....love yourself. Money isn't worth grossness being all over you. |
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But it is one of those movies that I will watch if I come across it on TV. Quote:
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As for ugliness... At the risk of sounding like someone aiming for sainthood, I genuinely don't pay that much attention to a person's looks... I mean, I do notice them, but their personality rapidly becomes what keeps me around or keeps me away. So, yeah, it's not that I don't notice. But I have also noticed that someone I thought looked average will become better looking to me as I get to know them. :shrug: And vice versa. For instance, I used to find Will Smith quite handsome and charming until recent events... |
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