Kathy W

Welcome to the POD Chamber!

We are The Positive Optimistic Diehards, people who love the show, for better or worse. We're here to talk about everything we love about Roswell (and the occasional thing we don't ) in a positive environment free of bashing and name calling. This is a place where all fans of Roswell are welcome to share their positive thoughts regarding our beloved show without having to defend ourselves for having such thoughts and opinions. We hail from many different shipper groups; anyone who likes Roswell is welcome here.

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Courtesy of our very own Noseedough:

Welcome all you Diehards...
to the Chamber of the PODs...
isn't this amazing???
we won...against the odds...
despite the trail...of ups and downs...
and venom...widely spread...
we managed to survive...
and found a friendly thread!
Leave your worries...on the doorstep...
and your cares...can stay there too...
welcome to our home...
just Roswell, me... and you.

This is the latest POD list. Several names were lost in the last server crash; if yours is missing, just let us know and I'll edit you in.


#1 Parker22...............July, 15
#2 Vaportrail.............November, 26
#3 Thicket.................April, 19
#4 HoneyBee...............September, 23
#5 Scottie.................July 17
#6 not of this earth.......April 10
#7 Bacio83.................August, 15
#8 Podwatcher..............March, 19
#9 Lizwell................August, 22
#10 Sarah.................September, 9
#11 Ezmeralda..............March 10
#12 II DTU II..............July, 28
#13 overtherainbow31.......March 28
#14 fondaroswell........... ?
#15 ruthie.................June 11
#16 Coreana................October 3
#17 Vishnu Das............. ?
#18 Lisa Leigh............. ?
#19 meg25.................. May 28
#20 NolaDarling............November 25
#21 Adela.................. ?
#22 AZfire.................October 15
#23 Anna Marie............. ?
#24 Jacob W................ ?
#25 Cosmicdream...........September 4
#26 Snow White............September 27
#27 deianira.............. ?
#28 icarus................ July 5th
#29 Stargazing*dreamer..... ?
#30 Behrly Breathing....... ?
#31 Sibby................. ?
#32 NepheleDelfino..........February 20
#33 Dreamer4Ever............Sept 18
#34 DspnZa1.................July 8th
#35 MegJule2003............June 12th
#36 RoswellAlienite.........Jan 17th
#37 Tigereyes...............March 15
#38 MaxiMai.................May, 5
#39 It Was You..............March 18
#40 *forever*............... ?
#41 M&M's................... ?
#42 Roswellian817...........August 16
#43 JayJay..................January 19
#44 the great white north...May 13
#45 Malanya.................May 27
#46 Beckey23................September 16
#47 youretoosweetforrocknroll... ?
#48 TobAng.................. November 18
#49 Katherine_Isabel.........November 16
#50 Black Waltz.............November, 23
#51 The Christmas Nazi..............September, 21
#52 angel-kittie............May, 24
#53 chipperggal.............June, 10
#54 Kathy W.................August, 8
#55 JBehrsGal................January, 21
#56 yoshi_fan................March, 16
#57 eclectic08...............June, 15
#58 cookie2697...............February, 16
#59 Wildfire Girl .............. April, 7
#60 DreamgirlEvelyn..........April 22
#61 PrettyPrettyPrincess.....November 22
#62 2crzy4roswell............. ?
#63 Princess Natasha T. Evans of Antar..December 3
#64 Angel....................November 16
#65 FloppyHatCrazy...........July 3
#66 Minanda...................April 29
#67 Dreamgirl13............... ?
#68 Poppie....................June 12
#69 Sabrina.................. ?
#70 *ReDnGrEeNmNmS*.......... Dec.20
#71 PixieDreamer............
#72 MusiChic............... Feb.5
#73 Shilohaura.............Jan 17
#74 Misha..................Jan 27
#75 Kung Fu Annie..........Jul 29
#76 Roswell 10/02/00.......April 4
#77 tav552..................Aug 12
#78 Roswelldesertsky.......June 19
#79 WishfulThinker152......March 15
#80 Noseedough............. July 11
#81 DreamingApplesaucer1947... ?
#82 Princess_Belle..........June 17
#83 Sandman.................August 18
#84 Jero................... Feb. 22
#85 Skaterchic..............November 29
#86 Crazy Canadian..........November 18
#87 twilliams...............October 31
#88 Gooder..................July 10
#89 Cotton_CandyLover.......April 20
#90 ShobhnA GuerIn..............?
#91 *Eliza(Liz).............December 28
#92 AlienWendy23............?
#93 locutus of borg.............March 31
#94 Lyndsi....................December 23
#95 Mariael311............February 11
#96 gij......................September 7
#97 Olderroswellfan............January 28
#98 *Ciera Rochelle*.........October 19
#99 IsabelEvans83................May 19
#100 RoswellMouse..............May 18
#101 *Horizon*................November 15
#102 Jessica Valenti............December 15
#103 Maxwell Evans............December 25
#104 ValuLalu.........................?
#105 Algieba...........................?
#106 WIWL........................November 6
#107 RoswieGoof..................December 10


And yet another great poem by Noseedough:

Roswell Rembrances...

Crashdown Diner...Vasquez Rocks...
Maria's aliens...in the box..
Porno Version...of Alladin...
the kind of place...to be bad in?
White Room horrors...poor old Max...
the Men In Black...collecting facts...
Valenti spying...on the Pods...
the great debate...about the Nods...
all those posts...about the Crystals...
Max and Liz...what's with that pistol?
Michael standing....in the rain...
even I could...feel his pain...
Max's visions...Liz's Shower...
Alien O's...that last an hour...
Kick-Ass Liz...and 'Get up Bitch'...
and in the end...a blown up Titch...
Into the Woods...the Aqua Bra...
Graduation...the last hurrah...
and the Wedding...finally Cementing...
the end too soon...we are all lamenting...
Dreamer scenes and Candy Pics...
Majandra's CD...called The Sicks...
Amy Deluca...baking pies...
most of all...Liz Parker's eyes.


Link to Thread #45

Kathy W

Thinking of Thicket and everyone else who has had their lives uprooted by Katrina.

not of this earth

Thanks for starting the new thread, Kathy. I'm bringing over the post I made just before the last thread was closed.

Thank God Thicket is okay!!!! I saw Bay St Louis right after Katrina hit, and I figured Grandpa Thicket's home was probably gone. (I think that's where you guys had the POD gathering three years ago, right?) So sad. Sending Thicket and her family lots of {{{hugs}}} {{{prayers}}}} and {{{positive vibes.}}}

Thanks for posting Maggie. Nice to see you again. Do you ever email Leslie? If so, tell her I said hello.

Kathy - I'm glad you had a nice vacation except for the day at the amusement park when you all got soaked. Which especially sucks considering the cost of them these days.

Misha - Thanks for posting the pictures from your vacation. Wow! That was absolutely gorgeous!!! Oh how I wish I was a camping-type girl. All the most beautiful places are so out of the way it seems. Great to see your graduation pictures, also... such a cutie!

Hi Algieba, Citrus and Vine, Nosee and all the PODs! I hope everyone else made it through the storms okay.

Citrus and Vine

Hi everyone!

Many, many thanks to all the wonderful people from all 50 states and from other countries, who are helping people affected by the hurricane.


Continuing our discussion from the previous thread of the lab scene in Tess, Lies, and Videotape:
MARIA: Liz, Max was on fire.
LIZ: No, Maria, it was an accident.
MARIA: No, really, I did not like the way she was looking at him.
Tess wanted to be with Max. She was in love with him. She wanted Max to be in love with her. She wanted Max to notice her. Tess smiled, when Max looked at her, after Max patted his arm with the towel. She wasn’t concerned that about an apparent fire on Max’s sleeve. I think Tess mindwarped Max to think that he had a passionate vision of Tess and himself on the lab table and to think that his sleeve had caught fire.

(In the boys' bathroom.)
MAX: It's me. I'm the problem. Something's happening to me.
MICHAEL: Haven't you ever had a fantasy before?
MAX: This is different. It's out of my control. I can't stop it.

To me, Max’s description of his visions sounds like a mindwarp, something that Max couldn’t control and couldn’t stop. Something that was different from a fantasy. Something that Max didn’t want. Max was in love with Liz.

Tess benefited from having Maria and Liz think they saw Max’s sleeve catch fire. Tess didn’t mindwarp the teacher to see fire, because it didn’t benefit her. If the teacher had seen fire, he could have sent Max to the nurse. Tess didn’t want Max to be sent away. She wanted to be with Max, because she was in love with Max. The teacher is shown to frown at Max and be upset with Max, as though Max behaved inappropriately by batting at his arm with the towel. The teacher isn’t shown to react as though Max’s sleeve had actually caught fire. The writers are giving the audience a clue that something unusual has occurred. Later, it is revealed that Tess can mindwarp people to think that something was happening, when it really wasn’t.

Tess knew that Max and Liz were a couple. Tess wanted Max to notice her and be interested in her. I think Tess mindwarped Max to think that he passionately kissed Tess in front of the class on the lab table. Max told Michael that his vision was different from a fantasy. He told Michael that it was out of his control and that he couldn’t stop it.

Mindwarping Max alone to see that his sleeve caught fire might be contradicted by Maria or Liz in conversations with them, if either of them hadn’t thought that they had seen fire. So it was in Tess’ best interest to mindwarp Liz and Maria, as well as Max, to think that they thought that Max had caught fire, when he was next to Tess. Tess wanted Max to notice her and be with her. Tess was in love with Max.

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jero

Sorry to interrupt the discussion...

A note from Thicket...

Later,

Maggie aka Sarah

Kathy: Thank you for the start to the thread sweetie. I know that I have been a bad POD and haven't been posting here lately... but am going to make up for that. Hey... wouldn't want to loose the right to wear my special robe.

Happy Belated Birthday!

I was so relieved to hear from Thicket and her that she and her family are safe. It's such a huge disaster it's very very scary even to think of the scope. Thicket has asked me tell everyone how much she appreciates all of the thoughts and prayers. And to pass along everyone that it helps so much. She is "gonna come play with you guys as soon as I can."

NOTE: Hi sweetie. Nice to see you also.

Yes... Grandpa Thicket's beautiful and gracious home was where we had the POD gathering a few years back. It is so sad that it's gone... along with so many many others.

I saw Scottie in person when I was in Philly in the spring. And will pass on your hello. She may perhaps come and post here herself perhaps though.

Misha: Thank you for posting your vacation photographs and your graduation photographs! The area where you went to is very beautiful and so are you! And congratulations on graduating sweetie!

Jero: Thank you for bringing Thicket's email over here. It doesn't seem all that long ago that Thicket sent me a PM and asked me to check out the discussions on the PODs thread... before we were even called the PODs. Was so very wonderful to find a group of Roswell fans to discuss the show with in a manner that I felt comfortable.

This thread is very special to me... and all the PODs are special to me. Have difficulty expressing in words how much all our discussions meant and mean to me... even though lately I haven't posted as much as I should have.

C&V: I always have thought that what Max was seeing in the chem lab... even Alex's reaction... was part of a mind warp. But a mind warp that built on his own fantasies. I think that Max was very drawn to Tess. But that he didn't know exactly why.... except for the obvious... that Tess was an attractive young woman. Also think... as is obvious... that Max was feeling very conflicted about being drawn to Tess... because of the being in love with Liz whatever. Think that maybe Tess sent the mind warp Max's way... and that Max's own thoughts and guilt... magnified the effect of the mind warp.

As for the fire... I think that Max's sleeve really did catch fire... but that he put it out so quickly that the teacher didn't really notice. Or didn't want to make a fuss about it because Max was a good student. Speaking as a gal who took chemistry in high school... whose classmates often managed to burn stuff that they shouldn't. Maria and Liz both noticed the flames though. With Liz thinking that it was an accident. I think Maria maybe noticed how Max was looking at Tess... because she had practice analysing Michael's expressions about whether his attention was going to wander... or more likely wander off. Whereas... Liz...assumed that Max only had eyes for her at that point in time.

Also think that Tess wasn't at all worried about a few little flames near her Alien King... because she knew that Max could put out a fire of that size... or larger... in an instant. The worrying about that sort of stuff is for weak helpless humans type whatever.

Maggie

Kathy W

Note: Yep, for us, that was a $138 rainstorm. That makes the two rides we each got before the downpour, oh, about $15 apiece.

jero: Thanks for bringing over Thicket's note! And if anybody "takes offense to her not posting in person", I will personally them.

Maggie: Thanks for the birthday wishes. And there are no bad POD's, only busy POD's.

Same here.

I like this idea. It's still a MW, but Max is contributing to it, perhaps explaining things like Alex's expression.

So maybe the chemistry teacher isn't human?


Cry Your Name: I watched this the other night, and sorely missed the music. Fisher's "Human", Searcy's "Nothing", Orton's "Cry Your Name"--all gone, and I never realized how much a part of the episode they were.



**This ep has one of the scenes that is burned in my memory: Max with a bloody hand, returning to the group after trying, and failing to revive Alex....and everyone walks away from him. A moment later, everyone has walked away from Liz, including Valenti, which surprised me. I would have thought he'd at least offer to take her home.

**Isabel's "talks" with Alex are heartbreaking, as usual. I still wonder if the similarity between the lyrics in "Nothing" and Colin's lines are a coincidence:

Doesn't she know that you're leaving this time?
Doesn't she know that you're already gone?

~~~~~~~

ISABEL: No, please. Please don't go.

ALEX: I'm already gone.


**I always smile at the sweet, innocent little Liz who stood next to Mr. Whitman after the funeral. Quite a difference from the barracuda she was with everyone else.

**I found Liz's "concert ticket theory" to be a good one. I don't know how she made the leap to, "Alex was murdered by an alien". Perhaps it was just a gut level feeling that something was wrong, and she was already ticked at Max, so he presented a handy target.

**Didn't I hear something about Jason being very sick the day the funeral scene was filmed?

**Love this exchange:

Max: You are so full of it.

MICHAEL: I just call it like I see it.

Max: You can't compare The Matrix to Crouching Tiger.

MICHAEL: Crapping Tiger is a chick flick with kung-fu.

Max: First of all, Crappi... Crouching Tiger is actually about something. Love. Honor. Trust.

MICHAEL: Matrix is about something. Illusion, reality, gunfire.

Max: You simply can't prefer Keanu Reeves to Michelle Yeoh. You can't.... I won't let you.


Sorry, Max, but I'll take The Matrix over Crappi.....Crouching Tiger any day.



**Also love this exchange, albeit for different reasons:

DIANE: Oh, honey. I wish -- I wish I had some kind of special powers or something to make all of this go away for you.

ISABEL: Special powers don't help.


*Sigh* No, they don't.

Misha

Hey guys!!

I'm so sorry for disappearing on you guys, but Zelda crossed my way this week... and everything went to oblivion

(just if you are not familiar with Zelda, that's a rpg game for Nintendo, SuperNintendo, Nintendo 64 and X Cube )

So, since I'm sick of being killed time and time again, I finally decided to take a break this Saturday

not of this earth and Maggie aka Sarah, thank you guys for your compliments on my pictures Did I mention that I spent an hour and a half for my hair to look like that?? Gosh, terrible things graduation ceremonies...

Oh, Semuc Champey, the place where I went, is beautiful, but no more camping for me... I'll see if I can scann and upload the cave picture before the year comes to an end... Lankin caves were the best part of that trip

Maggie I can buy your theory about Max "helping out" in that mindwarp. I think that is still open to discussion, but since it seems more plausible that is Max imagining Alex's grin and Liz's outrage than Tess proyecting that to the benffit of no one but the audience... And we do know Max is attracted to Tess, so... why not?

And I too think the fire is real. There's no logical answer for it being a mindwarp... And I never had a chem lab But I can sooooo see my classmates torching things... really, I can...

Kathy, that scene with Max's hand wasn't as shocking to me as when Max is telling Tess what he felt. Gosh, something went cold inside of me... And I wonder how it all was for Max: He had probably just bottled up the whole white room experience, has had an extremely stressful year, what with the whole Skins' situation, the Summit, Gandarium... and somehow he has being able to keep his cool, and they are all safe and alive. And then Alex dies.

And how shameful for him to not want to touch him... what kind of person does that make him? And most of all, to know how disappointed Liz and Isabel and everyone must be at him... (I'm not saying that it was the case, but that it must have felt like that for him)

And to see Max cry... To admit how scared that made him... I wonder if Max would have broken down with someone else at that point. Because the choices were limited... Liz and Maria were Alex's best friends, so no... and Isabel needed him to be strong... so nope... and it's not like he can go on saying to just any of them how he didn't want to touch Alex....

I guess there was Michael... but last time Max tried to confide something emotional -when he kissed Tess the first time around- uuuhhh... nope, didn't go well... And admitidly, he's not that close to Kyle... So I guess Tess was the logical choice, especially since now they had kissed, and he had ephimeral memories back and all.... Gosh, as a friend of mine is so fond to say, "sucks to be you, Max!"


That bit with Michael and the Matrix and Crouching Tiger -which, I admit, I only watched to see what Max was talking about- is hilarious! and the look in Max's face, so outraged at Michael! "I cannot believe you!!!" It was sooooo nice to know that they do get to spend time doing silly stuff. Being "normal" if you like

And now is middnight... and I'm falling asleep in here!!

Come back in a few hours, when the sun is actually out....

Misha

Kathy W

And here I thought "Zelda" was the latest hurricane.

That's okay. You spent a lot longer than that getting your degree.

Seems more plausible to me too. My major hang-up is that Max looked way too distracted to be imagining grins on anyone else's faces.

You can have my son's. Please. Take it. Fortunately, he only has to take one semester of chemistry. There are 3, 45 minute lectures, a l hour and 15 minute workshop, a l hour lab lecture, and a 2 1/2 hour lab every week. It's all yours.

Nope, Max was pretty much all alone on that one, and he certainly didn't need yet another horrible experience to add to his already overflowing pile. I still don't understand why everyone expected him to bring Alex back from the dead. Max had healed people who were gravely injured and would likely have died without his intervention, but he'd never resurrected someone who was already dead.

One of the reasons I liked Fisher's "Human" playing around that scene is because it reminded me of Max and how everyone had expected him to pull a Lazarus:



It's all right if you fall
You are human after all
But it hurts when you land on my life
I'm not your Jesus Christ



I was amused at Max's "I won't let you." So he doesn't just pull that with Isabel? Somehow, I don't think it's going to work any better with Michael. Probably less.

jero

An update from Thicket:

If anyone wants me to stop posting these updates just say so.

Later,

Kathy W

No, no, don't stop posting! We really appreciate the updates. If Thicket ever mentions what size(s) her relatives wear, I'd be happy to see if I have anything I can send their way. Or if a check would help, I'd be happy to donate directly to someone I know....although I don't know as there's anywhere to spend it.

Misha

Hey guys!!

Independence Day for me So, no work today!

jero, your posts about Thicket are the most welcomed. I'm not even from the U.S. but my thoughts are with you guys. And knowing someone who went through it makes this whole thing more real Tell Thicket that we are all thinking of her and wishing her the best.

Kathy, sorry about the Zelda bit I'm just four castles away of finishing that thing hehe

Keeping with the discussion about Cry your name, you kept me thinking about why Liz would jump into "Alex was murdered by an alien" bit.

Well, it's just a theory, but maybe, once she figured out Alex hadn't killed himself -and for some reason she had ruled out an accident- who would have wanted Alex dead? That's why she came up with the "silly" theory about it being Khivar. I guess at that point, even though she knew it was unlikely, she wanted to cling to idea that it made sense that aliens had wanted to kill Alex for his relationship to the Pod Squad. Maybe she knew that the Khivar thing was a little bit of a stretch, but in a world where aliens live among them, sure, why not? Or that maybe someone in the group would see the light and come up with a more reasonable scenario once she presented it.

I read someone's theory that Liz knew it wasn't an accident because Future Max had told her that on their wedding Alex had been present. I can buy that, though I too think it was a little bit too sudden that Liz hit so accurately that an alien had killed her best friend.

Now, did anyone else say "uuuuhhhhhh that gotta hurt...." when Liz practically shouts to Max "you are responsible"?? I really can't blame Max for just leaving from there. I did find a little odd that it actually became "us vrs you", but I guess I can understand that.

The problem here is that, in the state of mind that they all were, with all the tension that had been building up since... well, I guess since Destiny... It was a disaster waiting to happen... I think that Liz just lost it when Max wouldn't agree with her. But what was Max to do? He had read the report, even if he didn't want to believe it. And he did start reasonable with that, quietly and calmy, knowing that he was on dangerous ground there.

I guess that he lost it when Liz said the worst thing that she could have ever said to him: Because of you, someone we all cared about is dead. The responsability of their lives has always been a part of Max's responsability, just because he saved Liz... and that gotta suck! And knowing Max, when Liz said that, all the circumstances that had led to that moment just crashed on him. Especially his trust on her. "How could you say that?" That's what I read in Max's expression.

And he did try to put an end to that madness afterwards -though that's to discuss till the next episode- when Liz wouldn't hear a word that wouldn't agree with her. Gees, when those two fight, it's really on the big scale, uh? Of course, two stubborn people like they are... with all those mix feelings in the way... nope, not good....

And that was it for now I'll come back later

Misha

jero

I have a partial list from Thicket... I'll send it to anyone that asks for it... Kathy W I just PMd you...

Later,

Misha

You can never find those little pod people when you want them.

Yo, people! Where are you???

AND {{{{{{ H U G S}}}}}} to Thicket. and her family

Misha

RoswieGoof

Misha,
I was totally confused when I read what you said about Independence Day. But, today in my Spanish class my professor started talking about the Independence Day and that her roommate was going to a big party tonight if anyone wanted to join her for a Spanish-speaking party. Then we broke into a fun song of De Colores. Gotta love de colores se visten los campos en la primavera! Oh, and we can't forget los gallos that go quia quia quia! (Did I spell any of that correctly?!?!)
OH, and I LOVE Zelda!!!!

OK...so....are we on Cry Your Name now? I've been confused lately...actually...I had a migraine for 12 days...and it's funny cuz I've been reading the board, but I don't remember a thing that's happened! And...if I posted anything odd...I'm sorry...it turns out I even went to a couple classes last week and I have no recollection of it! I'm feeling much better now though, so....I'll try to be a better POD....even though I don't think I'm an official POD!