Mori

I think Dolores was just nervous and unsure what to expect from him at first. She seemed comfortable around him again by the end of the episode. Angela on the other hand looked like she immediately took a liking to new Teddy.

Yeah, considering Maeve is supposed to be at max intelligence now it's weird she never realized they would've given her daughter a new family.

I'm sure Dolores isn't gone. Wyatt wouldn't care about saving Peter or keeping Teddy around. That's all Dolores.

PhoenixRising

Like I've said from the beginning, Ford isn't dead, his consciousness is still in the park system manipulating things. That's how Ford is talking to William through the hosts and leading him along on his game to find "The Door." And notice how Dolores was running the same test that William ran on James Delos? Testing Bernard for "fidelity."

Is Teddy really Teddy anymore? Is Dolores really Dolores, or is she Wyatt? Notice how her southern farmer's daughter accent is gone and she's now speaking like Wyatt all the time. Did you see what they did to that poor tech guy, leaving him in that train car and disconnecting it, and Teddy leaving him with a gun and one bullet as a final act of mercy? That was cold. They disconnected the train car they were on from the engine, leaving the tech guy in the forward car with the train engine in front. That's why Teddy told him to use the gun quickly, because they used the engine to break through a barrier to the Mesa. That's the same train that guests take to and from Westworld, the one that William took when he first came to the Delos park.

I loved all the samurai/Kurosawa stuff in Shogun World. That sword fight was epic! I'm also surprised that Armistice's Shogun World double, Hanaryo, decided to go along with the group to Westworld while Akane and Mushashi decided to stay behind. And after seeing Shogun World and Raj World I'm wondering if there are other parks based on the other Delos parks in the original 1973 Westworld movie, like Medieval World and Roman World, or will they have something different?

I'm glad William had a chance to make amends with his daughter, Emily. I think he left her behind because he knew what she wanted him to do, leave Westworld and Delos and go back home to the real world with her. But William had already decided last season that he would never leave Westworld again, and now that Ford has given William his own game to play after realizing that "The Maze" wasn't meant for him, William is going to play Ford's new game until he finds "The Door," and he can't let his daughter stop him from doing that. I think William felt that after his talk with Emily at the campfire, all was said between them that needed to be said, and he can go now without feeling the guilt of Emily blaming him for her mother's death. He only told her that he'd leave with her to make sure that things were settled between them, and when Emily told him "it's a good start," I guess that was enough.

Now Maeve knows what William went through when he came back to Sweetwater and found Dolores there, but with no memory of him, dropping that damn can for the next guest who came along. Maeve's daughter was reset just like Dolores was, thinking this other host is her mom. But can her daughter remember her like Dolores was eventually able to remember William? And that Ghost Nation Indian who spoke to Maeve is the same Ghost Nation Indian that Emily and Ashley escaped from, the one who whispered to Ashely that, "you only live as long as the last person who remembers you." That's Akecheta, the same host Logan met 30 years ago, along with Angela, when they first pitched the idea of funding Westworld to Logan, remember? I'm guessing that Akecheta, being a host as old as Angela, Maeve, and Dolores, has also gone off his script and is thinking for himself.

Oh, and fun fact: Luke Hemsworth, brother of Liam and Chris Hemsworth, plays Ashley on Westworld, and the guy who plays Karl Strand on Westworld is Gustaf Skarsgård, brother of Alexander and Bill Skarsgård.

It's seems as if The Cradle is like a game simulator. It keeps all the data of all of the hosts storylines and narratives stored in one place and keeps running them over and over so that the hosts always have a central memory to draw from. You think these narratives are stored in the hosts' own memories? Nope, they need a central database to store and run all these storylines and narratives after they've been written as a sort of practice before transferring them to the hosts in the park. That's where Ford's consciousness has been hiding all this time.


It's clear that Bernard has had his mind transferred from one host to another over the years from the looks of all those other host bodies. My guess is that Dolores/Wyatt's plan is to try and transfer host consciousness to host-human hybrids like James Delos. That's the only reason she'd be looking for that place William created. Just being regular hosts isn't good enough. In order to leave the Delos park and go out into the real world, she wants them to upgrade to host-human bodies made from actual human DNA.

And I think I know what Ford's game is for William. Notice how young Ford told William that his new game was meant for him and that he had to find "the door," and that the game begins where he ends and ends where he began. When Ford spoke through the new El Lazo, Lawrence's replacement in Pariah, he told William that this game was meant for him, but he "must play it alone," prompting El Lazo and his men to all kill themselves. Then Ford, speaking through Lawrence's daughter, told William that if he's "looking forward" then he's "looking in the wrong direction."

Okay, since William set off on his quest to find "The Door," he's reunited with Lawrence, made amends to both Lawrence and his wife for what he did last season by saving them all from Major Craddock and his Confederados, and has even made amends with his daughter, Emily, to a certain extent. She told him she didn't blame him for her mother's death and wants him to return to the real world with her. And from what I've seen in the promo for next week's episode, it seems like William's next stop on his journey backward is Maeve and her daughter. Is it a coincidence that William and Lawrence are attacked by Ghost Nation Indians right at the same time that Maeve, her daughter, and her daughter's replacement mother are attacked by Akecheta and his Ghost Nation Indians? It must mean that William is close by, and William ended up having to go on the run from the Ghost Nation after they attacked, meaning he's once again on his own and alone with no help, just as Ford wanted.

I'm guessing that William will have to make amends with Maeve and her daughter soon and settle accounts with them, which means that after that, there's really only one more stop on his journey backwards, and that's Dolores. Of course, Dolores isn't really Dolores right now, she's either mostly or all Wyatt, and Teddy isn't Teddy anymore either, so William can't really make amends with him either. That should be an interesting reunion, though. Then the game can finally end with William going through "The Door," and... welcome back, Jimmi Simpson! Well... "possibly."

stlavin95

Not at all from the looks of it I felt so bad for Maeve too

Mori

When the Cradle ends up being destroyed I wonder what will happen to "Ford"?

I'd love to see the other parks. Kinda disappointed how brief that trip into Shogun World was

Interested to see what exactly Akecheta is up to. Not sure what his motivation or endgame is.

stlavin95

I wonder if we will go back to Shogun World?

desmondluverbrotha

It is possible. I think they probably have plans that may involve a glimpse of other parks, I think they said there are 6, so I think they will probably find a way to give us a glimpse at the other worlds

stlavin95

Okay, cool

desmondluverbrotha

Hopefully there will be more seasons as well, this one is more than half over

Mori

Apparently HBO already renewed the show for another season, only two episodes into season two.

stlavin95

That's great then.

Mori

Guess Ford's going to fix Clementine, but with the Cradle gone there may be no way of making her mind whole again. Unless they merge her with new Clem? They have the same mind.

Where were Felix, Sylvester, Hector, Armistice, and Hanaryo? Sylvester probably went back to the Mesa with Lee but we never saw him. The other four went to help Maeve when they saw her in trouble, but were nowhere to be seen during that encounter with William.

William's plot armour is starting to strain my suspension of disbelief. Why didn't Maeve shoot him in the head or the heart? She was five feet away from him. And how did none of the security guys see William crawl away when they shot Lawrence standing right over him?

Glad to see Lawrence wake up, hope that's not the last of him.

Don't know why Dolores' people bothered to put on security uniforms, they didn't really try to infiltrate the humans' ranks.

Loved Angela's last words. Sad to see her go but I guess Teddy fills her role as Dolores' right-hand enforcer for now.

Looking forward to learning more about Akecheta. Seems like he might be just as important as Dolores and Maeve.

desmondluverbrotha

There were a lot of losses last night I actually really like Angela, I hope she can come back along with Clementine. For Clementine, since her body is still intact, wouldn't they need to just patch her up and bring her back online?
Maeve shot William in the nonfatal areas because she wanted him to feel the pain she felt. I think she planned on finishing him off of course.
I was happy to see Lee save Maeve and the Dolores/Maeve reunion. I hope they fix Maeve soon. I don't know what happened to the others but I think we will see them down the road and find out.
It was nice to see Lawrence wake up and turn on William. I was half expecting William's daughter to show up to save him, maybe she finds and helps him?
Akecheta's storry should be interesting can't wait to see what that is all about.

stlavin95

Akecheta's story was pretty interesting

Mori

Akecheta has saved guests from hosts, but he's also saved hosts from guests, so maybe he wants peaceful coexistence? Maybe he wants the humans to leave Westworld so hosts can live in peace in their own private corner of the world? Will he try to stop Dolores from starting a war with humans?

I guess that makes sense. It wouldn't be the first time she let her emotions get in the way of her better judgement. I think you may be right about Emily coming to save his butt.

Sadly I don't think there's any way Angela can come back but hopefully we'll keep getting flashbacks of her.

stlavin95

I'm not sure what he wants at the moment, guess we will find that out in the upcoming episodes.