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Old 04-14-2003, 09:36 AM
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Liberal - Democrat - Leftist - Green thread: Wishing it were 2004 already

Stupid title, I know. I'm pressed for time and couldn't come up with anything else. Feel free to edit. [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

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Old 04-14-2003, 10:26 AM
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2004 will bring more wars if Bush is still in power. Can't we just lock him up in a rubber room? [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]
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Old 04-14-2003, 10:39 AM
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Problem is that half the time Bush is just the puppet. Can we lock the entire Bush administration and Daddy up in a rubber room?
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Old 04-14-2003, 11:52 AM
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The Onion strikes again!

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Old 04-14-2003, 11:56 AM
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Bush isn't a lock for 2004. In a poll over the weekend only 51% are for his reelection. That's still a majority but we don't even now who the Democratic candidate will be yet.

Our economy shows little to no signs of getting better. He (Bush) is going to have to do more on that end or he will be in for a tough fight.

Also there was a poll a few weeks back where Americans are evenly divided on military action in Syria. He might have a harder time with public opinion ..of course when did that ever stop him but I doubt that military action in Syria is going to be supported like it was in Iraq.
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Old 04-14-2003, 12:03 PM
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OK, because I simply cannot resist this one.

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Sex Tips from Donald Rumsfeld

By Stephen Sherrill
June 2002, Volume 137, Issue 6
Illustration by Tim Bowen


Dear Secretary Rumsfeld: My friend told me you can't get pregnant if you have sex in a hot tub. Is that true? —Diane Macdonald, Sioux City, Iowa

Secretary Rumsfeld: There is an awful lot of misinformation out there. Diane, the reality is that you can get pregnant if you have sex in a hot tub. Are hot tubs fun? Yes. Do hot tubs make you want to have sex? You bet. But anybody who believes that you can't get pregnant is simply uninformed, misinformed, or poorly informed, and does not belong in a hot tub.

Dear Secretary Rumsfeld: My husband and I have an active love life, and I'm generally satisfied, but sometimes I'd like him to go "down there." —Kate Waterman, Enid, Oklahoma

Secretary Rumsfeld: Down where? I'm here to answer legitimate questions about sex in a frank and candid way, but I'm not doing this just to waste my time. Do you mean your belly button? Your knees? Your toes? Boca Raton? Argentina?

Dear Secretary Rumsfeld: My wife and I are happily married, but the spark seems to have gone out of our sex life. How can we spice it up? —Harry Blumenthal, Bakersfield, California

Secretary Rumsfeld: There's no great mystery here, Harry. It can't be that hard to understand. You get in there, you do your job, you develop an exit strategy, and you get the heck out of there. That's the way sex works. Why does everything have to be so difficult?

Dear Secretary Rumsfeld: My wife wants me to talk dirty when we make love, but I've never been able to do it. Any advice? —Joel Brennan, Syracuse, New York

Secretary Rumsfeld: Listen, anybody that can talk clean can talk dirty. Dirty talk is just like normal talk, except dirty. Your wife wants dirty talk, so give her dirty talk. Something like, "Those breasts are first-rate," or "I am going to give you a darned good orgasm," or, if she likes the rough stuff, "I'll tell you this, I am about to give you the business and I don't want to hear any guff about it."

Dear Secretary Rumsfeld: I keep reading about something called the G-spot, but I can't seem to find it. Can you tell me where it is? —Elizabeth Kaplan, Tacoma, Washington

Secretary Rumsfeld: I could tell you. But I'm not inclined to.

Dear Secretary Rumsfeld: I'm thinking about trying a threesome, but I don't know how to approach my girlfriend about it. Have you ever tried a threesome? —Dave Barcott, Boulder, Colorado

Secretary Rumsfeld: Nice try, Dave. I can see what you're trying to do, but you're going to have to do better than that. Donald Rumsfeld is not going to be tricked into revealing something stupid about Donald Rumsfeld and Mrs. Donald Rumsfeld by such a question. If I answer, then someone will say, "Oh, goodness, the Rumsfelds are into threesomes," and then it gets repeated and picked up, and then suddenly everybody's talking about Donald Rumsfeld and Mrs. Donald Rumsfeld and threesomes, and that's not what this is about. That said, bring it up in a very loving way and let her choose the third party. Also, alcohol never hurts.

Dear Secretary Rumsfeld: If you have sex in a hot tub, can you get pregnant? —Molly Chaplan, Toledo, Ohio

Secretary Rumsfeld: Good gosh. Okay, yes, yes, you can get pregnant from having sex in a hot tub. In fact, you can't not get pregnant from having sex in a hot tub, nor can you get pregnant without having sex in a hot tub. I hope I've answered your question, Molly.

Dear Secretary Rumsfeld: My husband has a problem with premature ejaculation. Is there something I could do to make him last longer? —Ellen Shapiro, Knoxville, Tennessee

Secretary Rumsfeld: I'm just going to say this once. There is no such thing as premature ejaculation. There is ejaculation, and there is non-ejaculation. If your husband is ejaculating, then count your blessings. Congratulations, you just had sex. That's what men do—they ejaculate. All this business about, "Oh, henny penny, my husband is a premature ejaculator!" is just a lot of twaddle and claptrap. You say it enough and pretty soon, believe me, he won't be ejaculating at all.

Dear Secretary Rumsfeld: My boyfriend sometimes likes to put on makeup and dress in women's underpants when we make love. Should I be worried? —Amanda Stein, St. Albans, Vermont

Secretary Rumsfeld: I am not an expert in this area, but I will refer this question to General Tommy Franks and have him get back to you.
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Old 04-14-2003, 01:28 PM
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Hi!

What does everyone think about John Edwards from N.Carolina? For some reason, I had like his politics and what he was about (like 2-3 years ago) Just wondering his shot was against Kerry et al.
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Old 04-14-2003, 02:17 PM
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I know absolutely nothing about John Edwards. For some reason when I read his name I couldn't help but think of that "Crossing Over" loser.
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Old 04-14-2003, 02:25 PM
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You know what's funny and yet horribly depressing at the same time?

That people are falling for this Syria bull*****.

I need that goddamn cave to live in, and soon.
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Old 04-14-2003, 03:19 PM
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Canada will also be having a federal election in 2004 and voting for a brand new PM now that Cretchie is retiring.. [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]

This will be my first federal election in where I can vote. The last one was November 27th, 2000- a day before my 18th birthday. Do you know how much it sucked not being able to vote because by one day! Arg.
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Old 04-14-2003, 03:20 PM
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<STRONG>You know what's funny and yet horribly depressing at the same time?

That people are falling for this Syria bull*****.

I need that goddamn cave to live in, and soon.</STRONG>
I haven't really heard anyone talking about it outside of the internet. I don't really think the non-news-ish watching people even know. I've decided not to stress about it though. I was/am pretty much obsessed with the situation in Iraq and I just can't take it anymore. It just all seems like a never ending cycle. *sigh*
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Old 04-14-2003, 05:28 PM
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I haven't really heard anyone talking about it outside of the internet. I don't really think the non-news-ish watching people even know. I've decided not to stress about it though. I was/am pretty much obsessed with the situation in Iraq and I just can't take it anymore. It just all seems like a never ending cycle. *sigh*</STRONG>
Sadly I really think you will hear about it. I guess this is the time to going back to mobilising the peace movement again. Seriously, if you want to do something to prevent this, start now. Don't let people hear the first arguments about war in Syria from Bush etc., let them hear it from us this time as to why we must not invade any more countries.


ETA: Found this picture taken from the peace demo I attended in London on Saturday.


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Old 04-14-2003, 09:19 PM
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bextera- you do make a good point. I don't know, I just honestly feel like nothing I do is going to matter. People that agree with what is happening are going to agree with what is happening regardless of what I say. War protests mean nothing to the government and the war-supporters don't listen, they just bitch about them. What do you recommend we do to really make people care what we have to say? Even if they hear us first.. no one seems to care. It's just so frustrating.
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Old 04-15-2003, 06:32 AM
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I don't know what can be done either. I think during Vietnam that some of the U.S. press was more questioning and didn't just pander to the Administration. If you've ever seen any of the White House and/or DOD press briefings you just shake your head at the tunnel vision and the attitude these spokespeople have. I saw some of the DOD briefing and Tori Clark was asked about the Energy Minister who turned himself in and why at this point would he be lying about Iraq not having any nuclear weapons. She curtly replied something like - 'I don't know' and the reporter said - 'come on I'm serious' and she said 'so am I'. Instead of a serious discussion we got a monologue (yet again) on the evilness of those in the Hussein regime.

Don't even get me started on Rumsfeld. His answers to the looting in Baghdad shows how out of touch he is. I think he's more upset that the briefings aren't spent on heaping praise on his masterful plan and him and more on asking questions about the state of the conflict.

The other thing that is upsetting is how those who want to limit the reconstruction contracts to U.S. and U.K. and their reasoning behind it. These talking heads on TV say that how dare France et al think they can enjoy the fruits of war after not putting themselves on the line. Which means to me that - hey you're not making the big bucks in Iraq..we are. What - you say we are doing this for the people of Iraq? Nah...some U.S. companies need new markets for their products and it's just a coincidence that they've donated to the Republican party. The whole thing is just disgusting and this small group of people are just getting their way.
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Old 04-15-2003, 08:10 AM
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<STRONG>The other thing that is upsetting is how those who want to limit the reconstruction contracts to U.S. and U.K. and their reasoning behind it. These talking heads on TV say that how dare France et al think they can enjoy the fruits of war after not putting themselves on the line. Which means to me that - hey you're not making the big bucks in Iraq..we are. What - you say we are doing this for the people of Iraq? Nah...some U.S. companies need new markets for their products and it's just a coincidence that they've donated to the Republican party.</STRONG>
Or that a member of the Bush administration used to be CEO or similar there.

All of this work should be going to the Iraqi people. The UN should be helping them to set up projects so that anything that comes out of it goes back to the people, the US and UK or even France have no right to get any contracts there whatsoever.

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