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Old 08-27-2004, 03:16 AM
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Angel episode discussion 4x03: "House always wins"

Friday, August 27th @ 5pm(ET)
"House Always Wins, The" TV-PG-DV, CC
Angel and his friends discover that Lorne is being held prisoner in a corrupt Las Vegas casino
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Old 08-28-2004, 06:43 AM
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This episode was great. Angel reliving his moments about the Rat Pack. Of course the best thing about this episode Fred in green. I found a new appreciation for demon love after seeing her.
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Old 12-14-2009, 02:24 PM
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THE HOUSE ALWAYS WINS

The Good;
Lorne's performance is wonderful and love Fred's excited squeal. The Vegas stuff is all great
The Bad;
The actual story is not that good.
Best line:
Angel; "Boy, Vegas was a lot friendlier when the mob ran it!"
Jeez, how did they get away with that?
Apocalypses: 5
Angel Cliches
Inverting the Hollywood cliche;
In disguise; 8
DB get's his shirt off; 12
Cordy's tatt; 10
Cheap Angel;
Fang Gang in bondage:
Cordy: 5
Angel: 12
Wes: 6
Gunn; 4
Lorne; 3
Fred; 2
Connor; 1

Fang gang knocked out:
Cordy: 12
Angel: 15
Wes: 5
Doyle; 1
Gunn; 1
Lorne; 3
Groo; 1
Fred; 1
Connor; 1
Kills: 1 vamp for Connor and another human for Angel
Cordy: 5 vamps, 3½ demons
Angel; 41 vamps, 57 and 1/2 demons, 8 humans
Doyle; 1 vamp
Wes; 13 demons+3 vamps, 2 humans
Kate; 3 vamps
Faith; 16 vamps, 6 demons, 3 humans.
Gunn; 11 vamps+ 11 demons.
Groo; 1 demon
Fred; 3 vamp
Connor; 6 vamps and 1 demon
Fang Gang go evil:
Cordy: 2
Angel: 2
Gunn; 1
Wes; 1

Alternate Fang Gang: Destinyless Angel
Cordy: 2
Angel: 9
Fred; 1

Characters killed:
46
Recurring characters killed;
8;
Total number of Angel Investigations: 4
Angel, Gunn, Fred, Lorne

Angel Investigations shot:
Angel: 11
Wes; 1
Packing heat; Angel uses the guard's gun to kill the casino owners' assistant
Wes; 6
Doyle; 1
Angel; 3
Gunn; 1

Notches on Fang Gang bedpost:
Cordy: 4 ?+Wilson/Hacksaw Beast+Phantom Dennis+Groo
Angel: 5; Buffy, Darla and The Transcending Furies
Wes; 3; Virginia, the bleached blonde and Lilah
Gunn; 1 Fred
Fred; 1 Gunn
Groo; 1Cordy

Kinky dinky:
Fred in her Lornette costume is a revelation. Hands up who else was thinking what a shame we don't get to see CC in the same? (and Charisma is a Vegas girl after all). Lilah and Wes have some pretty explicit phone sex.
Captain Subtext;
Know the face, different character; 4
Parking garages;
5,
Guantanamo Bay;
Buffy characters on Angel; 16
Wetherby, Collins and Smith. Angel, Cordy, Oz, Spike, Buffy, Wes, Faith, Darla, Dru, The Master, Anne, Willow and Harmony
What the fanficcers thought;
Once read an interesting one where Angel introduces Elvis to the delights of wearing black leather whilst Elvis teachers him karate.
Questions and observations;
Angel in pinstripes, interesting look for him. Good enough, esepcially the musical numbers, glad to have the gang back together and Gunn get's to achieve his ambition, as indeed does Lorne. But you want them to get back to LA and crack on with the season. Wes seems quite happy to take AI's business when they're out of town suggesting he was partly responsible for their lack of clients during the summer. Also Fred seems to win pretty good at the blackjack table which might explain why AI's money problems seem to be over. Weird to hear Andy Hallet's commentary when you know he's no longer with us.
Marks out of 10; 6/10
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Really enjoyed this episode! Like how Angel keeps a close eye on Connor and lowkey helps him vanquish a vampire. Cordy trying to call down to him.

The Vegas setting made for a nice change of pace. I loved the look on Angel, Fred and Gunn's faces as they see Lorne's face on a billboard there. It was cute how much Fred was enjoying the performances. So it turned out that Lorne wasn't just ignoring them, he was trying to make sure they weren't in the line of fire. I love how Fred ends up donning the green make up and tricking the two security guards into getting into Lorne's room. Lorne was so pleased to see her!

Cordy getting the slot machine Angel was using to win to help save the day. She found a way to help!

The ending! So how was Cordy able to return? But she seems to have no memory of Angel and everyone. I hope they get her memory back!
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I like this episode in some ways, but I don't like to see poor Angel wandering around like a zombie with his destiny stolen from him.
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This episode is popular for Lorne's singing.
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