The Good Wife 7.10 - Episode Discussion Thread - KSR (12/13/2015)
 

Thanks Kiki!!

I am speechless. After all this time and assuming we had forgotten, Eli lets the cat out of the bag about the missing email. Omigod!! Justice for Will. What must this mean to Alicia?

Edit: I meant voice mail.

OH,the answer to the blind item is TGW!

Cumming was excellent in this episode. He had the face of a distraught little boy when Courtney bowed out. His acting just amazes me.

The episode was good but that ending blew me away. Bad timing always bad timing. Too late to little too late. I'm glad this came out though. If this is to be the final season which I hope it is I hope that this is that catalyst for Alicia finally breaking free and fighting for what she wants instead of just going along for the ride. I want the Alicia of season 1/2 back.

I don't watch the show anymore but as a person who loved the show before, I had to watch this one and as
powerful as the last scene was this what said above is all I could think about.:no: WAY TOO LATE.

Another average episode but I want to leave you guys with this because is helping my heart feel full :love::love:

http://img2.tvtome.com/i/u/884394fac...1e2c75c1f8.gif

^Reminds of Will and Diane! :)

I had no clue what E-mail (I thought he'd said voicemail) Eli was referring to... Regardless, I think it's a shark-jump when they add this many new characters this fast together (not to mention Alicia leaving the firm, Fox/Canning showing up at end of last season, & then 90% of each episode has nothing to do with Alicia & no appearance by Canning).

This was one of the best parts of the episode. While the last scene was a little ''too late'', I still appreciated it. At least that's one loose end that's been mentioned again. Now we just need some Lana/Bishop information (remember the white card? Yes, I will never forget :p) and Alicia finding out about her campaign (Peters role in it..)

Anyway, Julianna and Alan both show us some great acting. Liked it.

Case of the week was pretty good and I kind of feel for Alicia...lost her lov..uhm, investigator ;) JDM needs to come back!

So I managed to watch the episode yesterday...and I can honestly say o was in tears once again (first being when Will died). As Eli admits his monstrosity fault, I focused on the strong Alicia, breaking into shattered glass, as her once hope and dreams were explained. The anger was rightly so, and for something we have been waiting for...6 years for the die hard fans...it gives us excitement of what is next for Alicia.

The truth is she needs to let go of Peter once and for all...the look she gave when realising the truth...is true love.

Its taken a series and a half for me to say, I can't wait for the next episode!! Bravo writers.. we were not expecting that.

I love JDM (in everything I can recall, which is only this & "Human Target", to be honest), but he was the first announced cast member for some other new show, so I was betting he'd be gone soon.

On the other hand, I wish they could do a lot less of Peter now that they have Alicia facing off with her old firm, a lot more scenes of the old firm that don't even mention her, etc. ...

Oh, & keep Alan facing off with Margot but no more VLW/Paige needed.

Diane and Cary have been doing nothing for half a season, but that last scene was the most satisfying thing I've seen on tv in a few years.

What show have I been watching? "Cary" has been at the forefront of the "Howard" ageist stuff, & "Diane" seems to almost-constantly be right on the edge of firing him (which wouldn't be great, but at least wouldn't involve either of them potentially facing jail & perhaps "Alicia"-&/or-Chris McDonald worsening things for them).

Right!?!?! It made me feel so happy. I don't know what that says, that RK hasn't done anything all season that the moment he gives me a bread crumb I cherish. That is how low the bar is for RK. But god I loved it :love:

It was amazing :D

:high_five:

:lol: I know, right? That's what I was thinking when I saw how happy that little scene made me. How low can you go? :lol:

As for the return of the voicemail, I was never a fan of that plot line but honestly, bringing it back now just shows how desperate the show is.

It complete shows how desperate this show is. That they need a plot from 6 years ago to make people excited, that is just sad.

Basically the way I see it, is that I am done giving RK free passes. The bar is so low for him is not even funny.

I don't think the show looks desperate at all... Plus, if they were, you'd think veteran talent like Chris M., Vanessa W., & JD Morgan would see it & turn down the offers to appear & risk their own careers/status/whatever in the "town"/"biz".

On the other point, not sure who "RK" is, but I think (again) looking at Chris being a seemingly-steady judge there & Michael agreeing to appear at the end of last season in a way that brings him on even occasionally this year shows a fine crop of males on it (though, perhaps b/c I was also once a "Gilmore" fan, I was hoping Cary would use his jail-freedom to get "Howard" out of the firm).

On the other hand, I am hoping this show will eventually perhaps change to its own spinoff (perhaps called "The Firm Hand" or something like that) & cease to use Chris/"Peter" at all, as well as (spinoff or not) cutting down on the number of females. (Was it Kalinda leaving that required her to be replaced with Vanessa, Grace, & 80 others working with Alicia in the other type of court?!)

Prestige and actually good consistent story are very different things. Also a paycheck of course actors want decent work that pays well. Don't get me wrong TGW is still a much better shows than others but it doesn't mean is as good as it could be in its S7, it has lost is edge.

Robert King

I know they're 2 different things... The former is something I think belongs to actors (or they should aspire to have) while the other does the same for the show... Also, the fact is everyone wants a paycheck, but doing a show that only lasts for one episode & barely pays you a dime is better (or again should be) than one that goes 10 years but has you getting paid the money Charlie Sheen (or the casts of "Friends" or "Seinfeld") made to do things some homeless folks would have enough self-worth to turn down.

As for the Kings, now that I know who you mean, I disagree... Rather, see your posts as contradicting themselves. After a half-dozen years of what I assume you felt was largely decent-quality programming, there should not be a bar that is low at all for the people behind it.

My point is that only because these veteran actors like you said do TGW, does NOT mean the show is great. Does not mean quality is as good as it was before, is a decent show of course. But just because a show gets good guest doesn't speak of anything of quality. So when you say:
I don't necessary see how that doesn't mean the show can't be desperate for plot still, I do believe the show is desperate doesn't matter what heavy hitter actors the Kings get.


Why not? What I am saying is my bar for RK is "low" recently because of how much he has disappointed me with this show. Meaning, that this show started so great and I loved it. But his work recently has been so below par, that I have given up. And I have the bar so low in order to enjoy some of the little things I have enjoyed, if not I would not enjoy not a single thing.

On this much, we agree. However, as for this...

It would take 100 pages for all the laughs I'd need to post to properly respond to that. Don't get me wrong; I hate ego as much as the proverbial next guy... But in this or sports, where people can literally "go to the videotape" to show how good their work was last night (to say nothing of last decade), there is decent reason fro VW, CMcD, JDM, & others to believe/know they have done high-quality work in the past, meaning they can require a certain amount of cash in the pay/level of quality in the material if anyone involved in the show wants/expects them to do it.

I was not saying the show is desperate for plot. Regardless, however, I don't believe that low-quality writing (as one would likely expect would be acceptable to those desperate for any) would get these actors to agree to do it, & if that were to happen, I believe these level-quality actors would be able to make the desperation &/or low quality less obvious to us average viewers.


Read that to yourself, & tell me it's not self-contradictory. Then, tell me what time at night the sun comes up... If you were disappointed, it means you had the bar set higher than he was able to reach; Makes sense. That does not mean you then lower the bar. If he failed to reach it consistently for a while, I likewise think it makes sense for you to have given up. But if you did that, that means the bar is now... Not in your possession, or at least not being used in this/his case.