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lentejoncita 04-30-2012 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by LGC (Post 62900617)
I believe he didn’t say lucky, he said something like “I thought you were liking it here” in relation to her working in L&G. He said this because he was concerned about her wanting to leave and did not understand her decision, imo. Besides, Will still do not know about Lemond Bishop threatening Kalinda or how things are going between her and Alicia.

My mistake, I watched without subtitles this time so I belive you. And I know that he doesn't know about the Lemond Bishop thing. But we know and after all the things that are happening to K I found it funny he saying that. Thank you! I should watch it again with subtitles ;)

md_em 04-30-2012 02:35 PM

Not ready to post my thoughts, but I love the art in the OP :D

Miss Femina 04-30-2012 04:38 PM

Why did they move Alicia's desk???????????

Gelfling 04-30-2012 05:45 PM

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Why did they move Alicia's desk???????????
:rotfl: that's all you have to say about the episode? :P

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I'm pleased with the finale and ready for a break of a few months. Just don't remind me how many, I don't want to count...
We'll start a countdown as soon as we have the premiere date! It seems terrible at first but it's good to see it get smaller one day at a time.

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Not ready to post my thoughts, but I love the art in the OP
Aww thanks Em :hug:

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You know what I mean It would have made zero scene but a fan girl can dream
:lol: I wasn't giving you a hard time, I just thought there was a spoiler that said they were going to kiss, sorry :hug:

Quick thought on the Dream Team thing. That seems rather unethical to file a lawsuit to steal a client, no? I'm pretty sure they could sue Canning and Nyholm for that. Or pursue it with the bar association. If lawyers started filing fake lawsuits to steal clients from each other, the system would be pretty even more backed up than it is now and it's also very costly.

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Cary was likable in this episode, I like him on the dark side. The little whispering "Welcome back Cary." Encouragement kinda reminded me of the first day of work...
Except he wasn't encouraging himself, he was bitching AGAIN about not feeling important enough. And then going to see Alicia to bitch about her having a big office and him being out there with the rest... I could have lived without that scene to be honest. I liked him in the rest of the episode but this felt like he is going to be a jealous baby again and I'm really not finding it charming.

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I am not sure what she is going to do. But its Alicia after all, she always seems to choose her family.
But she's changed in many ways. And it's certainly not set up as a either/or situation so I don't really see what choice she has to make right now. Also, Beth said she wasn't told that they were dropping the condo set so...
I do think it's the beginning of some sort of closure with her and that part of her life. And that's where the house metaphor works. Not as her going back to it but as Peter getting into it and her leaving it behind. She asked Jackie to put it in the kids name because it was never for herself. She needs to accept her family as a different entity than what it used to be.

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I'm sorry I'm feeling slow today and I feel comfortable enough to ask this here. Why would someone save an uncashed check?
:lol: glad to hear you feel at ease enough to ask questions around us :P
And we've been wondering the same thing in our post-finale chat with Kiki and Joana. Why the hell indeed?? Especially since she obviously didn't want to cash it.

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Could it be possible that Kalinda’s uncashed checks come from the time when she was Leela? Shouldn’t it have set an alarm in her when Alicia mentioned she found some of them on the folder? Just asking
Nope. The check was dated from 2007. Blake said Leela died 9 years ago. And it was made out for cash anyway, no name on it.
The guy immediately thought it was about Kalinda though. So I'm wondering if F&E Construction is real at all. Or a front for something else.

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K/W interaction at the bar was beyond trusting or not trusting him. Imo, she was trying to not get him involved just like she did with Alicia when she didn’t answer what was going on. The difference is that Alicia IS part of the story now.
I'm not saying she doesn't trust him. She does, up to a point. It's Kalinda we're talking about after all. Eugenia seemed to think that scene showed some kind of trust and I think she reached out to him for the money but she wasn't showing any degree of trust. She likes him, no doubt about that but this scene wasn't about trust, is my point.

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but --- seriously? It faded into black before this man showed up! At least let us see what he looks like!
They haven't cast the actor yet. That's the only reason why they didn't bring him in S2. And that also mean that they hadn't planned this for a cliffhanger until the very end of the season. No wonder there was no build up.

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I know right, I was glad she took them off
In her apartment, she kept them to avoid getting debris in her eye, like with the bat and Blake's car. So she only took them off after.

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Man her apartment was great! And where she hides all her money, guns
Kalinda doesn't believe in safes! :lol: Now I'm just picturing her tearing the wall down, putting her getaway stash in there and building it up again :lmao:

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I could totally picture her place like this, minimalist, extremely tidy, it was like the place of someone in control, and never settled.
:nod: Beth did such a great job! It was minimal, functional and yet elegant in its simplicity. Very very white :lol: and definitely the place of someone who is ready to run fast without leaving any clue behind. That was just perfect.
I'm sure if you look in the old threads, you'll find discussion about her place and that's exactly how we talked about it.

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- I expected Kalinda to go to some killing spree, but what we got is much more in line with TGW.
:lol: yeah it was "operatic" enough for them to even go there. But wow three guns? She means business. And not toy guns either. Maximum firepower and big ammo.

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My love for Kalinda grows and I just love that she stayed.
That moment where she's packing everything and then just stops and sit on the bed... thinking about what she'd left behind... :sigh: Someone give Archie another Emmy please!

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So it was official, Kalinda would die for Alicia. I have no doubt that Kalinda is the one cares most for Alicia in the whole show, she would do anything, even risk her own life to protect Alicia
Yep. No doubt about it anymore. Not that there really was but it's been confirmed.
Not only did she have second thoughts about leaving her behind but once she knew she could be a target, she didn't hesitate one second.

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I actually thought it might be Alicia at Kalinda's door at one point!
Kiki thought so too but I think they made it very clear with the editing that it couldn't be, because they knew that people might think it was.

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What was that all about? Was that flexible? "Yeah … sort of." Come on, there's no need to hide! Our investigator was blushed! Fortunately, a vibrating phone caught the timing to interrupt such awkward moment.
:lol: those damn phones!! Didn't you love the hand gesture when Alicia said "flexible"? :lmao: and the way she asked for a shot after she said "flexible... ok." :lmao:

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It is Kalinda/Alicia that is the most real and most important relationship of the show.
It's the only one that makes Alicia grow. No offense to anyone.

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It is the most Real relationship of the show. The most Important one is the love triangle of Alicia, Peter and Will.
:lol: well let's hope that changes next season

EndlessღLove 04-30-2012 06:26 PM

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:lol: I wasn't giving you a hard time, I just thought there was a spoiler that said they were going to kiss, sorry :hug:
Oh no, I stayed spoiler free :lol:. The only thing that Ju told me is that AW were getting a scene together but I didn't expect a kiss :lol:

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Quick thought on the Dream Team thing. That seems rather unethical to file a lawsuit to steal a client, no? I'm pretty sure they could sue Canning and Nyholm for that. Or pursue it with the bar association. If lawyers started filing fake lawsuits to steal clients from each other, the system would be pretty even more backed up than it is now and it's also very costly.
Well they didn't force PE to anything so it seems legal (?) I have no idea, really :lol:
The thing is, that the lawsuit wasn't fake, was it ? They said it, they lost but they couldn't care less because they got Edelstein and that's what they wanted.

Gelfling 04-30-2012 07:03 PM

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Well they didn't force PE to anything so it seems legal (?) I have no idea, really
The thing is, that the lawsuit wasn't fake, was it ? They said it, they lost but they couldn't care less because they got Edelstein and that's what they wanted.
Legal yes but ethical? Definitely not. The lawsuit was bogus to start with since it relied on grand jury testimony and speculation but most of all their goal, which they admitted, was to distract them to steal clients. I'm sure a judge wouldn't really see that kindly, not to mention the Bar Association. Like I said, if all the lawyers start suing competitors just to poach lucrative clients from them, it would get really messy really fast.
Not to mention costly to the judicial system.

ylana 04-30-2012 07:27 PM

Just a random thought... did anyone notice Jackie still wears her wedding ring?
My guess is that she's got alzheimers (or some sort of senile dementia).
And again...those psychodelic green walls at Kalinda's place!!!!! :eek:

EndlessღLove 04-30-2012 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Gelfling (Post 62907379)
Legal yes but ethical? Definitely not. The lawsuit was bogus to start with since it relied on grand jury testimony and speculation but most of all their goal, which they admitted, was to distract them to steal clients. I'm sure a judge wouldn't really see that kindly, not to mention the Bar Association. Like I said, if all the lawyers start suing competitors just to poach lucrative clients from them, it would get really messy really fast.
Not to mention costly to the judicial system.

Oh yes, I agree, but I don't think they will go there, they need the firm to have financial troubles, you know, more drama :lol:

Gelfling 04-30-2012 08:22 PM

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Just a random thought... did anyone notice Jackie still wears her wedding ring?
My guess is that she's got alzheimers (or some sort of senile dementia).
Well she had a stroke. It's not rare for people who had a stroke to lose brain faculties. It doesn't have to be dementia or Alzheimer's.

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And again...those psychodelic green walls at Kalinda's place!!!!!
:lol: not at Kalinda's place.

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Oh yes, I agree, but I don't think they will go there, they need the firm to have financial troubles, you know, more drama
Personally I really wouldn't mind if they came up with another storyline for the firm because the financial trouble is starting to feel like yesterday's dinner... or the day before even. :sleep:

EndlessღLove 04-30-2012 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Gelfling (Post 62908897)
Personally I really wouldn't mind if they came up with another storyline for the firm because the financial trouble is starting to feel like yesterday's dinner... or the day before even. :sleep:

I know :lol: They can't leave the firm alone for a while ? They have the K/husband storyline, the D/Kurt/Jack storyline (I hope they don't forget about this :pout:), Will coming back to the Law (and as MK said "The dilemma with Will is, will he come back from the suspension as someone who’s turning over a new leaf or someone who is willing to cut the legal corners?"), Peter's campaign (Alicia supporting him and Eli dealing with it), Cary coming back at LG, etc. They don't need the firm going on financial trouble but whatevs :lol:

Gelfling 04-30-2012 09:19 PM

Right?? Not even really sure where they are going with this. They keep hiring new people! You wouldn't think they are so tight for cash! :shrug:

Btw people, general announcement in here because I know most of you will check this thread at least for the next few days:
Stick around through the hiatus, will you? We'll play games and support each other all through Summer (Winter for the Southerners :lol:). There will be goodies and quizzes in the character threads. And survivor games.

EndlessღLove 04-30-2012 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Gelfling (Post 62909640)
Right?? Not even really sure where they are going with this. They keep hiring new people! You wouldn't think they are so tight for cash! :shrug:

And they gave Alicia a big raise two episodes ago :lmao:

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Btw people, general announcement in here because I know most of you will check this thread at least for the next few days:
Stick around through the hiatus, will you? We'll play games and support each other all through Summer (Winter for the Southerners :lol:). There will be goodies and quizzes in the character threads. And survivor games.
You know I will :lol:

Gelfling 04-30-2012 10:29 PM

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And they gave Alicia a big raise two episodes ago
:lol: I forgot about that! And they are always so busy busy! Everyone's running around so busy because Will is out of commission... are they all working on pro-bono? No billable hours there at all?
Weren't they also renting office space to Romany Malco? I hope that hasn't been dropped. I loved him and Diane working together!

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You know I will
:high_five: We may even revive the OT thread :lol:

I_Love_Siobhan_Magnus 05-01-2012 01:42 AM

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well let's hope that changes next season
I don’t think so. This show’s biggest topic is always about the definition of “good wife” in this current era --- being a traditional and dutiful woman who puts her family at first or being a independent and modern woman who puts her career at first --- which is showed at the last scene of this season: stay or leave? From the last few episodes in season 2 (Wiley told Alicia about Peter’s one-night-stand with Kalinda) to the first half of season 3, many assumed that she and Peter will end up in divorce, but that’s impossible, as long as this show is named the good WIFE, not the good willow, the good divorcee, the good bachelorette or the good single mom (actually, the last one does exist. Switch the channel to Lifetime at Sunday night, you’ll see the hottest single mom on TV :lmao:).


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I actually thought it might be Alicia at Kalinda's door at one point!

Alicia was standing outside of her house and Kalinda was sitting inside of her apartment. Those things were supposed to happen at the same time. In addition, I don’t think Alicia would rhythmically knock the door for three times. The blond prostitute had revealed it on a video of Chelsea Lately in season 1 that every time Peter wanted her to come, she quickly knocked two times, took a pause and hit it once more as a single to let Peter know that it was her, so knocking in this way is probably the least thing Alicia would do.

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The case was interesting, but the strategy was a bit confusing to me: of the three judges involved in the bribery, one was Winter and another was Wynter? I do not recall this from the meeting of WSC and Elsbeth at her office…Maybe if I re watch the episode I can clear this up.
I’ve rewatched it and confirmed that the three judges involved in the bribery issue are Judge Wynter, Judge Dunaway and Judge Parks --- the one who successfully distracted the grand jury’s attention and move jurors’ target onto himself in that episode, because he kept quoting the 5th Amendment yet Will answered the questions. Anyway, it doesn’t matter, because The Dream Team aimed at their top client and used this as “a sleight of hand” to see it done.

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So it was official, Kalinda would die for Alicia.
Yes, but I hope the Kings do not interpret this in a literal manner. Please don’t do this for real --- don’t kick her off from this show! :bawl: L&G needs her and we need her too!

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Whoever came up with the idea of the stroller baby needs an award.
That is so epic, definitely the best moment in this finale! :lmao: And the second has to be the mini reunion outside the elevator! Compared to these, that it-is-time-for-you-to-make-a-decision one at last is eclipsed.


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About the not gay "revelation", I was laughing to. I imagine that after Alicia find out that Kalinda slept with Peter, she wouldn't think that she's gay any more.
And now she can 100% believe this “revelation” when Kalinda confessed that she had a husband.

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Patti's kid going around the firm. "Our new associate"
Have you noticed a small detail about that? Every time "Our new associate" showed up, Will and Diane exchanged a look --- a look of envy and woe. Both of them have no descendants of their owns and this firm is like the only child they share and cherish.

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The elevator and W/P :lol: The tension caused its malfunction! :lmao:
I wish I could have an active and magnificent imagination like this!

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the way she asked for a shot after she said "flexible... ok."
Yeah, the exactly same drink that Kalinda ordered! By the way, a ring on the ring finger means this person is married and unavailable, but what does it imply when a ring is on the middle finger --- like the one on Kalinda’s?

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Someone give Archie another Emmy please!
She absolutely deserves one! And the boob shot helps. :lol:

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I'm sorry I'm feeling slow today and I feel comfortable enough to ask this here. Why would someone save an uncashed check?
Maybe she just saved it as a memorabilia from her husband, or as a reminder to keep her bewaring of the DANGEROUS ones from both nearby and afar and never let her guard down except in front of Alicia.

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Except he wasn't encouraging himself, he was bitching AGAIN about not feeling important enough. And then going to see Alicia to bitch about her having a big office and him being out there with the rest... I could have lived without that scene to be honest. I liked him in the rest of the episode but this felt like he is going to be a jealous baby again and I'm really not finding it charming.
Ahhh, he’s still the old Cary, isn’t he? Two years ago, he was competing with Alicia for the only place of junior associate. He was smart, resourceful, knowledgeable, energetic and in victory of many cases he handled, and most importantly, he was without the burden of family. In contrast, Alicia had dropped her career for THIRTEEN years (not 12 or 14, but this unlucky number, huh?) and was forced to work again due to her tight budget. In all likelihood, he, a young man with a bright future in legal world, should win over a dame over 40, but Alicia took advantage of her then imprisoned husband’s social network to bring Eli, a big client to the firm at the hardest time and therefore beat him. He must have thought that such nepotism was totally unfair. However, now he got his office back as Eli moved out, his revenge should come to its end. Let bygones be bygones.

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My guess is that she's got alzheimers (or some sort of senile dementia).

You know what? I need to pull out a little Notebook reference here. Peter or Eli should find a Noah reading the love letters he wrote for Jackie to bring his Allie back. :lmao:

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:lol: not at Kalinda's place.
It was the corridor, the outside of her place.

~Amore~ 05-01-2012 05:04 AM

Did anyone else find this finale a little underwhelming? :/ I don't know why I just didn't feel it


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