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Kiki17 02-01-2011 06:24 AM

Yes, sadly I agree too, they could have easily been divorce and Peter scenes would have had the same impact. However I agree with Laila's point that in a way Peter's story line feels like a spin-off, and whats the fun of that? If AP are not gonna interact then in a way it becomes a bit boring, because mostly everything revolves around her. So why waist time just keeping Peter if he will be detached to the whole story line, I rather we get more Alicia time.
I think what is hard for me about AP getting a divorce is that I really enjoy the political aspect of the show, a lot. This idea that Alicia is no longer the "political wife" however she still has to do deal with some of those issues I find quite interesting, and if they were divorce I just do no think the political issues will be as interesting (and in a way we have rarely gotten any Alicia in the political stuff anyways :shrug:)
I am gonna see how things play out, if Alicia is going to be alone cool, I am all for that. Lets just hope that if they do keep CN his story line does not get lost.

tvdramafan 02-01-2011 07:05 AM

Uh oh... sounds like I missed something foreboding on the panel...more true love???..or does it sound like a divorce is in the offing.

I agree in the past you have gotten the sense that that JM would like to see Alicia alone.
Agree with KIki that I like Alicia/political component but we have barely seen it ( I thought she would be more involved in the campaign).
But if they divorce hard to keep political in the story, and frankly where does her character have time.. so it becomes a spin off.
Well we have gone over how difficult it would be if they kept Peter in the show once divorced ( with a good story ) but it doesn't look optimistic if they head that route.

can someone let me know what was said on the panel????

Gelfling 02-01-2011 07:09 AM

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I ship Chris only
:lol: really? You hide it well ;) :P

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can someone let me know what was said on the panel????
There's a link to the video Shama posted in the News thread.

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However I agree with Laila's point that in a way Peter's story line feels like a spin-off, and whats the fun of that?
I completely agree with you and that's one of the reasons I have not been interested in the election storyline at all. Robert King on the panel made it sound like it was because they didn't have the budget to make it look like TWW but it's mostly they didn't have the ideas to make it sound like TWW, big difference.
On the bright side, I think once he's elected, there might be more interesting ways to keep him on even if they get a divorce. And also I think that if they did get a divorce, that would force the writers to integrate Peter more ironically. Right now, they don't need to, because he's married to Alicia so de facto, for them, he's integrated through Alicia even when you don't see them together. They might even get to be parents together again.

So I agree and I understand that it wouldn't be very romantic but at this point, it might be more interesting for both of them and for each of them to not be together anymore. And that was me playing devil's advocate. I won't do it any more, I promise :lol:

kabous 02-01-2011 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Gelfling (Post 53527067)
:lol: really? You hide it well ;) :P

Funny
I ship Peter. I don't care who he is with. Just as long as he is on the show

Gelfling 02-01-2011 08:06 AM

I like Peter. I don't want him gone either. I just think right now, all these characters would benefit from everyone going their own way (metaphorically speaking)

tvdramafan 02-01-2011 08:19 AM

Well, I am not as good at this as Laila ( show plotting) but I figured that they would keep A/P married and struggling for the next while for a number of reasons...

-it uses Chris more easily in the plot

-allows writers to fit in political component

-I figured Chris would remain in the series at least 2, max 3 years..I am convinced series has 5 years with JMs committment and the fan base it has built -

--no matter how much we want Alicia to be with Peter or Will, it is too early in the series to committ her to one person ( which is why Laila was right about introducing will/a romantic possibility so early in the series)

So even if they had A/P working on the marriage, even reconciling for a while, I figured there was still plenty of series time left after this ( mid S3??) to have Alicia divorce and move along.... bottom line... why rush a divorce right now???

This had been my logic, but now I am thinking, maybe chris wants out earlier??? or JM is really pushing the alicia alone business... I think that she is extremely committed to the character, has her own opiniions(rightfully so) and that writers may be inclined to follow her lead.
I feel badly if they go the divorce route, bec that more or less means Chris will be gone from the show sooner rather than later...I agree with the way the scenes have gone lately, they may as well be divorced, but once they really are, the link with alicia becomes pretty tenuous. It would be pretty spin-offy.and I suspect they would not go the messy ugly divorce route...maybe some conflict as they work things out....

GoodWifeObsessed 02-01-2011 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Kiki17 (Post 53523301)
hahah you never know :lmao:

Yes maybe this is some sort of a curse against our belvoed A/P :eek: OR not ;)

Could be just the opposite maybe a good sign :D

Mind you I haven't yet seen the panel - So I don't know how things are looking for our dynamic duo.

Mind you I saw the new promo - at least Alicia uttered a few words Peter's way when he dropped the bedroom bomb :) / Before she probably would have just walked away from him.

You know what I think might happen - That she will actually consider his request and then the whole Wendy Scott -Carr blackmail story will come on and Alicia will perhaps blame Peter for putting his family out there and vunerable. Sad to say I could see it playing out this way - For now at least :(

Also Laila and Carla thanks for opening the new temporary thread for us : )

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Funny
I ship Peter. I don't care who he is with. Just as long as he is on the show
Today 06:09 AM
I feel exactly the same way Kabous :D

I could actually see Peter and Diane having some scary good chemistry - That lady would be a formidable one to tango with ;)

Kiki17 02-01-2011 08:37 AM

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And also I think that if they did get a divorce, that would force the writers to integrate Peter more ironically.
Could be, maybe that wil led to that. I like CN, I do. But is no secret to anyone that I was more interested in the marriage aspect of their relationship, Alicia's husband could have been anyone and I still would have shipped the marriage. *Now do not kill me CN fans :gone::lol:*

So wait, what did you think of the Panel, Laila, Mare, and Jodie?? did it sound like Alicia will be alone??

Det.Logan 02-01-2011 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by GoodWifeObsessed (Post 53527903)
You know what I think might happen - That she will actually consider his request and then the whole Wendy Scott -Carr blackmail story will come on and Alicia will perhaps blame Peter for putting his family out there and vunerable. Sad to say I could see it playing out this way - For now at least

But we don't know how Peter will react to Wendy's threat and how far he is willing to go to protect the family (dropping out of the race?).
We may know the beginning and the end but not what's in between.

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I like Peter. I don't want him gone either. I just think right now, all these characters would benefit from everyone going their own way (metaphorically speaking)
You know that I agree, also for Will, to explore the character away from Alicia, maybe adding a few recurring with a meaningful role.
They have stretched the triangle so badly that it got dull even for those who were really ineterested

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So wait, what did you think of the Panel, Laila, Mare, and Jodie?? did it sound like Alicia will be alone??
I've heard this option from season one so it would not be anything new. I didn't watch the panel and I'm not planning to do it now, maybe next week-end.

GoodWifeObsessed 02-01-2011 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Kiki17 (Post 53528085)
Could be, maybe that wil led to that. I like CN, I do. But is no secret to anyone that I was more interested in the marriage aspect of their relationship, Alicia's husband could have been anyone and I still would have shipped the marriage. *Now do not kill me CN fans :gone::lol:*

So wait, what did you think of the Panel, Laila, Mare, and Jodie?? did it sound like Alicia will be alone??


Okay getting ready to kill Kiki - :lmao::rotfl: - Just joking of course my dear :)

I too intially was the most interested in seeing how a marriage might survive (or not ) something like A/P are going through.

But now both Alicia ( JM ) and Peter ( CN ) have proven to be such interesting and compelling characters I'm okay with the marriage ending as well and seeing how a seperated couple deals with all that fallout!!

Also must admit to being a long time Chris Noth fan and I don't think anyone else could have played this role half as well as Chris. He's got the perfect elements to his persona - player,charming,wit,charisma and masculinity but then also this incredible amount of vunerability.

p.s - Kiki all I did was read the little transcipt of the Panel - doesn't seem likey any real new info. on the A/P front - More of what we have already heard I think.



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But we don't know how Peter will react to Wendy's threat and how far he is willing to go to protect the family (dropping out of the race?).
We may know the beginning and the end but not what's in between.
Your right Laila and also I like your scenerio much more than mine.

Could be why Wendy went to Alicia instead of Peter. She's going with the old divide and conquer approach. Trying to cause animosity btwn the two.

I would have liked to see how Peter would have reacted if Wendy had aprroached him with the Zach photo - Bet she was afraid too ... :D

Interesting possibilities - I think Peter really does love his family and is really willing to go to great lenghts now to protect them - But being a POLITIAN is so tied into who he is - in ways he's in an unwinnable situation.

kabous 02-01-2011 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Kiki17 (Post 53528085)
Could be, maybe that wil led to that. I like CN, I do. But is no secret to anyone that I was more interested in the marriage aspect of their relationship, Alicia's husband could have been anyone and I still would have shipped the marriage. *Now do not kill me CN fans

I'm not cheering on for a divorce. The exact opposite actually. But what I most want is for Alicia and Peter to have some good scenes together. I get where you are coming from - I like Will and I think Josh Charles is a muffin but I don't want Alicia and Will together. But if they do get divorced I hope Peter hooks up with Amber again. That is probably the worst thing I can say on TGW board but I really like her. I think they would make really hot couple

Kiki17 02-01-2011 09:05 AM

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But if they do get divorced I hope Peter hooks up with Amber again
:lmao: ooo man, I would hate this :eek: I rather Peter be with Diane :lol:

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Okay getting ready to kill Kiki - - Just joking of course my dear
thanks for not killing me :lol::hug:
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Also must admit to being a long time Chris Noth fan and I don't think anyone else could have played this role half as well
Yup I agree, I am really happy it was CN cause he did it so well. He made Peter into a likeable guy, so I am glad it was Noth ;)

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I too intially was the most interested in seeing how a marriage might survive (or not ) something like A/P are going through.
yup and in a political arena even more interesting :nod: I feel the Kings had so much material to work with and they have failed.

Det.Logan 02-01-2011 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Kiki17 (Post 53528524)
ooo man, I would hate this I rather Peter be with Diane

I've always toyed with the idea of Diane and Peter - just for fun (them not me :lol: ) but of course with Kurt around it sounds not very probable.

GoodWifeObsessed 02-01-2011 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Kiki17 (Post 53528524)
:lmao: ooo man, I would hate this :eek: I rather Peter be with Diane :lol:

thanks for not killing me :lol::hug:

Yup I agree, I am really happy it was CN cause he did it so well. He made Peter into a likeable guy, so I am glad it was Noth ;)

yup and in a political arena even more interesting :nod: I feel the Kings had so much material to work with and they have failed.

Aww your welcome Sweetie :lmao:

Yup CN has done wonders with this character :)

No Amber please Kabous - No Amber :goof: ;)

You know Peter has pretty good chemistry with every gal on the show so far - Alicia, Kalinda, Wendy, now he just needs a scene with Diane see how that one plays out...

Peter is a ladies man we can't deny that one - :D

Det.Logan 02-01-2011 09:27 AM

Alicia ♥ Peter Appreciation Thread #15 - Because it is only with the heart that one can see rightly...
 
I'll re-work the OP later... ;)


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